We're assuming Saturday's figure for X Factor was higher than first reported because Comedy World Cup's inflated figure for episode 2 is known to be wrong and that's on against Saturday X Factor.

Oh dear strictly had a shocker last night!

Were the oldies still at bingo while the show was on or went to bed early I wonder.


If X Factor had that kind of rating no doubt you would be the first one gloating telling us "The show was in decline" but its an BBC show so you would'nt dare upset the bosses at the BEEB by criticising it.

I know; but C14E was asking whether we had confirmation of the revised Saturday figure - I was saying we hadn't.


It's not in decline though; it's about level (possibly even slightly up) on last year which is more than can be said for The X Factor.

How is 8million a shocker, it is same as last year . And Strictly is popular with all ages of people who like different activities, not just old women who like bingo.

Strictly gets the same audience as last year and that was actually up a percentage point. I'd hardly call that a shocker or any indication that the show is in decline. If anything it's an indication it's likely to be up year on year overall which is quite a lot different to the X-Factor...

Yes, the worry for ITV is that Fool Britannia, which only managed 2.16m/12.5% last week from 18:45 against Total Wipeout (3.20m/18.8%), completely collapses opposite Strictly and delivers a very weak lead-in to Take Me Out, although the latter's young demo will help it out, if lots of them aren't watching Strictly to start with.


I can't find any amended Saturday X Factor bootcamp figures: it looks like we'll have to rely on last Monday's consolidated numbers (which I presume we can depend on? They were released awfully quickly in the circumstances).

Here's a comparison of the last two weeks' officials for TXF and their 2011 equivalents:

So the auditions went from seemingly a steady 20% decline (give or take the odd episode due to the Paralympics) to a sudden 10% decline only to return to the 20% decline. Very very strange.

Every time X Factor gets low ratings like Strictly got last night. You can't wait to stick the boot in, telling us "The show is past its sell by date" and all the rest of the rubbish you come out with about ITV programmes.

X Factor will beat strictly over the weekend. Once the live shows start that's when X Factor comes alive and everybody will be talking about it.

NeilVW - you've added the figures wrong in the officals for the Saturday bootcamp episode. It actually got 10.89m including +1. You've added the Sunday +1 figure to it by mistake.

I'll repeat the exercise on Monday when we get the consolidated figures for judges' houses and see how things shake out. There could be changes to levels of 7-day timeshift year-on-year which are distorting the pattern, although this seems unlikely to be significant and I agree it looks odd. Chezza's cameo was supposed to give judges' houses a massive fillip, wasn't it?

Merlin will one to watch: it provides a bigger challenge to TXF than Secret Fortune, particularly among the younger demos.

Good spot! I've corrected it; just read it wrong from the spreadsheet. Thanks.

That wasn't the case last year: the live shows brought the great run for its pre-recorded stages to a shuddering halt!

Do they ever release consolidated/official peaks?

I was down in the warehouse on Friday, and it was very well discussed, by all there, not just the older females.

I tend to judge Strictly and X-Factor on there Saturday ratings, so I am with holding judgement until tomorrow. Saying that I wanted 7 million for Hunted, so 8 million seems really strong on a Friday.

Has BBC Breakfast ever broke 2 million?

Just think last year Strictly faced TV Burp which sill pulled in a good 4m viewers. SDC has got to beat the disappointing 7.5m it got last year otherwise it's not looking to good for that ether! And we don't really want another dying Entertainment format on our hands.The stress would be unbearable!

8.5m tonight do you reckon?

Ken

Very occasionally, for example with the Olympic ceremonies:

not overly sure why this would be successful.

I always thought old women who liked bingo were big Corrie fans

During the Olympics Breakfast managed 1.6-1.7m a few times, and the Monday after they finished it got 1.73m, but I doubt it's achieved 2m for the programme average in its current incarnation which started in 2000 (not counting Salford as a new version). Breakfast ratings move glacially slowly, partly because they're an average for such a long tract of airtime. ITV used to be far more competitive, indeed dominant, in the early mornings in the days of TV-am (1983-1992) and then GMTV (1993-2010) so I'm not sure BBC1's previous versions - Breakfast Time (1983-1989) or Breakfast News (1989-2000) ever managed as high as 2m, even when multichannels were far less successful than now.

Has anyone know what the full ratings for last night yet?

can some one please tell me the stirctly peak last night and average. All people are sayin is dissapointing for strictly will ye flipping say the ratings...i still dnt know it so please some one tell me

According to these Twitter posts, Strictly had 8.0m (a 34% share) last night, peaking at 8.6m. I think that's the only show we've had reported so far?

This is a thread made up of members that like to share. If we had data to post, we'd post it.

The only regular weekend source is Digital Spy and it doesn't always update on Saturdays. If it does, the data will find itself in here soon after.

Thats poor ... x factor will beat that no doubt..strictly is old, dull boring, same old, same old and the standard this year is very very low. Xf all the way