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I wouldn't move The Chase from 5pm, why would you move such a successful show after how long it took to find a hit.
I would continue as they are now, airing specials in prime time additional to the teatime slot. I would also continue to take it off for weeks at a time to try other shows, rather than falling into the BBC trap of airing the same show repeats mixed in with new, week in week out for years and years. |
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I quite liked Golden balls but I wonder if the problem with it was the rather nasty way contestants could steal from each other at the end. It could leave a rather sour taste.
I also enjoyed Jerry Springer's Channel 5 quiz Greed, which had a similar 'stealing' endgame element, although that show was quickly canned, presumably due to poor ratings.
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There's plenty of programmes that haven't got to 5m in that slot.
The Lakes, Dales, Country-ripoff - were all getting >4m. |
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I wouldn't move The Chase from 5pm, why would you move such a successful show after how long it took to find a hit.
I would continue as they are now, airing specials in prime time additional to the teatime slot. I would also continue to take it off for weeks at a time to try other shows, rather than falling into the BBC trap of airing the same show repeats mixed in with new, week in week out for years and years. I can see where you're coming from re the length of time it took them to find such a hit - then again look how quickly Tipping Point has established itself - 2m for the 1st series, coming back for a 2nd. I say move it to the Wed. 8pm slot - we obviously disagree on that! (ITV wouldn't be the first or last broadcaster to give a show a better slot in primetime due to encouraging ratings). I do agree with you on taking it off and trying new shows, and not mixing new Chase shows with repeats. |
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Including Paul's Dogs - that hasn't got to 5m either...
The Lakes, Dales, Country-ripoff - were all getting >4m. When was the last time a BBC show did about 5m opposite Corrie? |
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I can see where you're coming from re the length of time it took them to find such a hit - then again look how quickly Tipping Point has established itself - 2m for the 1st series, coming back for a 2nd.
I say move it to the Wed. 8pm slot - we obviously disagree on that! (ITV wouldn't be the first or last broadcaster to give a show a better slot in primetime due to encouraging ratings). I do agree with you on taking it off and trying new shows, and not mixing new Chase shows with repeats. |
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Sigh. Why so incapable of giving credit where it's due?
When was the last time a BBC show did about 5m opposite Corrie?
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With the ITV 5pm slot they have tried 12Yard's Don't Blow the Inheritance but nobody watched it, although it was a good light hearted format.
I am currently watching a show in Italy called Avanti un Altro, which is translated to Next Another. It sees contestants who stand in a queue answering 50/50 questions and selecting scrolls at random with money in them. They can bank the money and become that days champion. Who ever is the champion at the end plays for the money they banked but with an extra €100,000. The endgame is so difficult it's rarely won. I think this could be an ideal show for that timeslot but for some reason I could see Michael Barrymore hosting it. The success of the show comes with the comedy as they has specialist rounds with someone suppose to be an alien who cannot pronounce. Two Chinese guys singing a well known song in Chinese and a mad scientist which asks the contestant if something will sink or float. You can watch the show via here. http://www.mediaset.it/canale5/avanti_un_altro/ Wiki http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avanti_un_altro! |
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The Lakes, Dales, Country-ripoff - were all getting >4m.
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Sigh. Why so incapable of giving credit where it's due?
When was the last time a BBC show did about 5m opposite Corrie? (Then again, TOWIE shamefully won a BAFTA...) |
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As poor as its become both commercially and especially creatively Shameless is going to leave a big hole in Channel 4's schedule and they seemingly have nothing lined up to replace it with. Having said that its clearly the right decision that should free up a decent pile of cash and force them to actively hunt out a new returnable drama and its seemingly been years since they had one of those. Quote:
So the Voice went up in the US last night, despite it being the Battle Rounds..
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DWTS 2.0 12.37/ 2.1 13.21/ 2.2 13.81/ 2.2 13.89
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Another great Monday for NBC. The decision to hurry The Voice to the fall may have smacked of short termism, but you can't argue with the results. It's completely transformed the network's competitive stance, leaving traditional powerhouses like DWTS and the CBS comedy block in the dust...
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I'm sure everyone would like to see Revolution just tick up slightly one of these weeks and stop the erosion - but even if it's very soon playing in the mid-2's, it's still huge by NBC's standards. I wonder what their plan is regarding mid-season, though. Will they dare play it without a Voice lead-in? Or go on an extended midseason break until it returns. Probably more sensible to do the latter - expecially with a serialised show where airing originals in nice solid blocks is very important.
I can't see any reason why it won't continue to air out of The Voice midseason. At this stage I'm assuming The Voice will run through to mid-December and then be back for another cycle early February so in reality Revolution won't really be off the air all that long. The bigger question is probably going to be where they end up slotting Smash and The Biggest Loser. With The Voice and Tuesday night comedies working relatively well The Biggest Loser is in search of a new slot (Wednesday opposite Idol?) and Smash isn't going to be able to keep its plum post-Voice slot from last year.
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Sigh. Why so incapable of giving credit where it's due?
When was the last time a BBC show did about 5m opposite Corrie? Quote:
I admit I've never seen it. But I guess we're talking of daytime filler padding out the evening schedules rather than highbrow thought-provoking challenging BAFTA award winning programming?
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Just discovered from The Chase's DS thread that Celebrity Chase is now being repeated at 8pm on Tuesdays on ITV4. Very wise. If they put it on ITV2 the tough questions might cause the ITV2 viewers' heads to explode.
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Demographic Information for BBC1 and ITV1 for Monday 1st to Sunday 7th October: http://i48.tinypic.com/2411f7o.jpg
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In fairness to channel 4 they've got some excellent looking new drama coming up looking at their showrell, Labyrinth, World Without End and Coup all look excellent so hopefully more of that
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They're all miniseries and one-offs, I'm thinking more returnable dramas which Channel 4 have been lacking.
As for Shameless - the thing that made it work so well was it used to have a real soul. However mad the Gallaghers were at time there was a genuine family bond between all of them, and similarly with the Maguires when they were bought in during the 4th series, and even between the two main families there was a certain respect which carried the series when individual characters were leaving left right and centre. However the last couple of years that's all gone and as the show lost it's soul it lost it's viewers. It really should have ended a couple of years ago, and not really sure it deserves a 14-part goodbye next year - in an ideal world it would end really with a couple of specials with many of the original cast returning, presumably for Frank's funeral. Quote:
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ITV should take a punt on this and move it from 5pm to a weekly primetime slot - either 8pm Wed, or Saturday pre XF, or Sunday evening. Personally I would favour the Wed. slot - or how about "flop" Tuesday?
It's got everything going for it - a good presenter who is funny and encourages the contestants. The format is highly entertaining! They are already bringing back Tipping Point to 5pm weekdays, and am sure they could find other "quiz/game" shows to fill that slot - what about Golden Balls returning? I do suspect though they'll be even more celeb specials next year, and if as we'd expected The Cube had been lined up to replace it I'd have put that back myself and nicked a week or two of regular Chase episodes to air as The X Factor warm up for the rest of the series as at the moment they would probably get 4.5m+ or so and actually help the daytime airings rather than take viewers away from them. |
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Can't see what all the fuss is about O'Grady's dogs, it is not getting 5m once tapechecked and the repeat is stripped out.
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Body of Proof (New Season)
Tuesday 23rd October, 9pm, Channel 5 I also see a new series of Highland Emergency starts next week (16th) at 7pm. On one hand seems a bit of a waste of new content putting it in C5's worst primetime slot, but then again it did get to almost a million once or twice at 7.30pm |
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Body of Proof (New Season) Tuesday 23rd October, 9pm, Channel 5 |
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In part that will be because neither UTV nor ITV1 Wales are airing it (at 8pm Mon at least). STV are a week behind, not sure how that impacts the officials
Interesting point about the officials: opt-outs are generally excluded from them, but if it's a different episode of the same series, in exactly the same slot, I suppose it would be included. Perhaps Mike Teevee or Trickytree could confirm? |
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Exactly Jonwo - they need to do now exactly what they did back in 2004 and throw three to four new potential returning series on screen and hope at least one sticks. They got Shameless and No Angels out of that, though NY-LON and a year or two later Goldplated were one series wonders, as was Cape Wrath. Since then though until Sirens and Fresh Meat last year they hadn't even really tried any potential returning series on the main channel.
As for Shameless - the thing that made it work so well was it used to have a real soul. However mad the Gallaghers were at time there was a genuine family bond between all of them, and similarly with the Maguires when they were bought in during the 4th series, and even between the two main families there was a certain respect which carried the series when individual characters were leaving left right and centre. However the last couple of years that's all gone and as the show lost it's soul it lost it's viewers. It really should have ended a couple of years ago, and not really sure it deserves a 14-part goodbye next year - in an ideal world it would end really with a couple of specials with many of the original cast returning, presumably for Frank's funeral. I think they should do what I've suggested for Channel 5 to do if they start commision homegrown dramas again and do drama pilots and air them to see which one have the potential for a series. Shameless lost its way and ending it next year is a blessing in disguise as I think it would axed anyway. |
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I admit I've never seen it. But I guess we're talking of daytime filler padding out the evening schedules rather than highbrow thought-provoking challenging BAFTA award winning programming?
(Then again, TOWIE shamefully won a BAFTA...) ![]() Paul O'Grady Dogs isn't daytime programming at all. |
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Anyone know what's happening to the Corrie being dropped next Wednesday for the live Emmerdale? Are ITV saving it up for Christmas? Or will we get extra episodes during I'm A Celebrity?
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US Adjustments are awful for CBS, the whole night down roughly 0.3!! NBC should be pleased The Voice went up, the new Battle format seems to be popular, Revolution is still steady at a 3, if it holds their it will still be massive for a 10pm slot... ABC should be happy the whole night was steadier, with DWTS shifted up a tenth... FOX still had a rubbish night, even NBC would be disappointed with a 0.9 in the 9pm hour, but then there's the CW, who should just replace their Monday line-up with repeats of Oh Sit, would probably do better...
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...d-down/152108/ |
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Shameless should really have ended after the third series. I think it would be quite well thought of if it had. It's a shame it was dragged out to within an inch of its life but that's television.
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I also see a new series of Highland Emergency starts next week (16th) at 7pm. On one hand seems a bit of a waste of new content putting it in C5's worst primetime slot, but then again it did get to almost a million once or twice at 7.30pm
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So where is Person of Interest going to be moved to?
I hope C5 aren't giving up and putting it on a never-ending midseason break like Castle, that would be infuriating. It's vanished in the provisionals, however the episode information was in the press pack, so...... ![]() Hopefully it will turn up in the final schedules issued tomorrow. I don't object to it being moved for higher rating Body of Proof, but I do object to it being put on a break, which will achieve nothing but lose viewers. They just need to exercise some patience. |
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That's what I'm wondering. Unfortunately I don't have the answer just now.
I hope C5 aren't giving up and putting it on a never-ending midseason break like Castle, that would be infuriating. But it's vanished in the provisionals. However the episode information was in the press pack, so...... ![]() Hopefully it will turn up in the final schedules issued tomorrow. I don't object to it being moved for higher rating Body of Proof, but I do object to it being put on a break, which will achieve nothing but lose viewers. They just need to exercise some patience. |
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I also enjoyed Jerry Springer's Channel 5 quiz Greed, which had a similar 'stealing' endgame element, although that show was quickly canned, presumably due to poor ratings.



