Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Remember what date that match was on? I'd get the ratings if I knew what date it was on.”
“Remember what date that match was on? I'd get the ratings if I knew what date it was on.”
15th June 2012.
The Ratings Thread (Part 41)
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There's no chance of the game's kick-off time being moved tomorrow just for ITV. The whole world has worked it into their TV schedules.
But I think ITV should be allowed to relax their contract somewhat and air it on ITV4 perhaps, if it clashes with Emmerdale. They've spent a LOT of money on that episode tomorrow and are expecting big ratings. They can't be expected to sacrifice that when they've done nothing wrong and UEFA/FIFA are entirely responsible.
But I think ITV should be allowed to relax their contract somewhat and air it on ITV4 perhaps, if it clashes with Emmerdale. They've spent a LOT of money on that episode tomorrow and are expecting big ratings. They can't be expected to sacrifice that when they've done nothing wrong and UEFA/FIFA are entirely responsible.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Except the scheduled kick-off time was 7:45pm.”
“Except the scheduled kick-off time was 7:45pm.”
Didn't realise. Oh dear!
I do think ITV should have realised there was a risk that if tonights match didn't happen, it would be played tomorrow, hence scheduling the live Em for Thursday might have been safer.
They'll learn their lesson though!
ITV will unleash an almighty shitstorm if they aren't in Warsaw at 7.45pm tomorrow, on ITV1.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Tough one. Emmerdale's live episode has higher ratings potential than the match so should probably take priority in that sense.
But ITV's reputation for football is in the toilet already. Ditching buildup for a big game such as this would only serve to do more harm.
Massive headache all round this for ITV. I could see them having to move Emmerdale a little earlier at the very least.”
“Tough one. Emmerdale's live episode has higher ratings potential than the match so should probably take priority in that sense.
But ITV's reputation for football is in the toilet already. Ditching buildup for a big game such as this would only serve to do more harm.
Massive headache all round this for ITV. I could see them having to move Emmerdale a little earlier at the very least.”
Move everything back 15 minutes, maybe, and give the football a 15 minute preview tomorrow night?
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Except the scheduled kick-off time was 7:45pm.”
“Except the scheduled kick-off time was 7:45pm.”
No, it was scheduled to kick off at 8pm.
Originally Posted by LW09:
“Bearing in mind its a World Cup qualifier so it will be broadcast to the world, will the FA really allow an unconventional kick off time just so ITV can fully air a live episode of Emmerdale?”
“Bearing in mind its a World Cup qualifier so it will be broadcast to the world, will the FA really allow an unconventional kick off time just so ITV can fully air a live episode of Emmerdale?”
They may do if it resulted in the match being shown on a lesser channel.
ITV are honouring their agreement by broadcasting the match when they are meant to. The Emmerdale episode is a live episode of one of the country's most popular shows. Sometimes these popular shows have to rightly, take preference over a football match, despite what the FA may think.
Regarding Emmerdale. I read they don't have a back up plan which surely is a bit stupid seeing as the weather in Yorkshire is usually bad in October. I know EastEnders & Corrie had a back up just i case.
I wonder if Emmerdale LIVE will go out at 6:30?
I wonder if Emmerdale LIVE will go out at 6:30?
Sorry I'm not watching it - what's happening with this England game? Postponed until tomorrow? I really hope this doesn't affect Emmerdale Live.
As for last night. Emmerdale started the week of well with 7.5m. Pretty much where I expected it to be at. Corrie way ahead of EE on a Monday again. POGs Dogs has been an absolute triumph in that slot. NT continues its good run whilst, Monroe is all but dead now. Stupid scheduling!
As for last night. Emmerdale started the week of well with 7.5m. Pretty much where I expected it to be at. Corrie way ahead of EE on a Monday again. POGs Dogs has been an absolute triumph in that slot. NT continues its good run whilst, Monroe is all but dead now. Stupid scheduling!
Portugal versus Northern Ireland is kicking off tonight at 20.45 BST [local time also 20.45]. So why does tomorrows delayed game have to be a 8oclock kick off, there could be a few amendments to it.
It's not that complicated at all tomorrow. Just like ITV very happily do during major tournaments, they'll chop a few minutes off the news and start Emmerdale at 6.50/6.55. Sorry to be boring but if kick off is at 8 I don't think it's a problem. All the build up features are used now so it would be harder to fill 30 minutes anyway.
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Exactly. Emmerdale will air at 7pm tomorrow. If it doesn't then Thursdays episode will seem a bit odd!”
“Exactly. Emmerdale will air at 7pm tomorrow. If it doesn't then Thursdays episode will seem a bit odd!”
ITV will have little control over the kick-off time, and I don't think a soap opera episode will quite cut it with FIFA.
Post on the BBC Football Update Stream:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19966932
Quote:
“2031:
My mum will be in a blind panic right now. If the England game gets played tomorrow and ITV show it then what is going to happen to the live Emmerdale episode?
I'm thinking they just film them all down the Woolpack watching the game.”
“2031:
My mum will be in a blind panic right now. If the England game gets played tomorrow and ITV show it then what is going to happen to the live Emmerdale episode?
I'm thinking they just film them all down the Woolpack watching the game.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19966932
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Move everything back 15 minutes, maybe, and give the football a 15 minute preview tomorrow night?”
“Move everything back 15 minutes, maybe, and give the football a 15 minute preview tomorrow night?”
That was my first thought. I'm sure local news could be cut to 15 minutes for one night.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Tough one. Emmerdale's live episode has higher ratings potential than the match so should probably take priority in that sense.
But ITV's reputation for football is in the toilet already. Ditching buildup for a big game such as this would only serve to do more harm.
Massive headache all round this for ITV. I could see them having to move Emmerdale a little earlier at the very least.”
“Tough one. Emmerdale's live episode has higher ratings potential than the match so should probably take priority in that sense.
But ITV's reputation for football is in the toilet already. Ditching buildup for a big game such as this would only serve to do more harm.
Massive headache all round this for ITV. I could see them having to move Emmerdale a little earlier at the very least.”
They can't move Emmerdale to an earlier time slot. The final scenes in the dark tonight were deliberately done to co-incide with darkness falling tomorrow. Also, the cast, crew and producers are relying on the confirmed schedules in order to make each scene flow properly.
Originally Posted by mogzyboy:
“ITV will have little control over the kick-off time, and I don't think a soap opera episode will quite cut it with FIFA.”
“ITV will have little control over the kick-off time, and I don't think a soap opera episode will quite cut it with FIFA.”
Except this is entirely FIFA's fault, so unless the contract is a right bad'un, they should have no right to demand that ITV shows it at a certain time.
Originally Posted by mogzyboy:
“ITV will have little control over the kick-off time, and I don't think a soap opera episode will quite cut it with FIFA.”
“ITV will have little control over the kick-off time, and I don't think a soap opera episode will quite cut it with FIFA.”
Then the match will be shown on ITV4.
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“5 Polish players have matches on Friday. Might not go ahead tomorrow.”
“5 Polish players have matches on Friday. Might not go ahead tomorrow.”
I'm sure the clubs in question have got enough other players to pick.
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“They can't move Emmerdale to an earlier time slot. The final scenes in the dark tonight were deliberately done to co-incide with darkness falling tomorrow. Also, the cast, crew and producers are relying on the confirmed schedules in order to make each scene flow properly.”
“They can't move Emmerdale to an earlier time slot. The final scenes in the dark tonight were deliberately done to co-incide with darkness falling tomorrow. Also, the cast, crew and producers are relying on the confirmed schedules in order to make each scene flow properly.”
Not to mention that it will affect ITV News at 6.30 and then affect ITV News at 10, which ITV would no doubt be criticised for.
It will be interesting to see how this one works out, I could see them just pushing it onto ITV4.
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“They can't move Emmerdale to an earlier time slot. The final scenes in the dark tonight were deliberately done to co-incide with darkness falling tomorrow. Also, the cast, crew and producers are relying on the confirmed schedules in order to make each scene flow properly.”
“They can't move Emmerdale to an earlier time slot. The final scenes in the dark tonight were deliberately done to co-incide with darkness falling tomorrow. Also, the cast, crew and producers are relying on the confirmed schedules in order to make each scene flow properly.”
Darkness fell in two minutes tonight; that or it was a never ending fight scene at the end. Continuity was not a strong point in a edited episode so it shouldn't be a problem with the live.
As for ITV1 tonight - I think they should air something like Piers Morgan's Life Stories: Paul Gascoigne if/when the football is postponed. Something which would appeal to the male demographic.
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“They can't move Emmerdale to an earlier time slot. The final scenes in the dark tonight were deliberately done to co-incide with darkness falling tomorrow. Also, the cast, crew and producers are relying on the confirmed schedules in order to make each scene flow properly.”
“They can't move Emmerdale to an earlier time slot. The final scenes in the dark tonight were deliberately done to co-incide with darkness falling tomorrow. Also, the cast, crew and producers are relying on the confirmed schedules in order to make each scene flow properly.”
Yeah Because the fight scenes with Jimmy & Carl went dark all of a sudden but i guess that makes sense.
Originally Posted by Dr. Linus:
“Surely it allows for broadcasts to be null and void if another country's incompetence causes the game to clash with one of their biggest projects of the year? There's no angle from which this should be viewed as ITV's problem, they had nothing to do with it.”
“Surely it allows for broadcasts to be null and void if another country's incompetence causes the game to clash with one of their biggest projects of the year? There's no angle from which this should be viewed as ITV's problem, they had nothing to do with it.”
there is no question this is not ITVs fault.
That said I find it mildy amusing that a live episode, of a British soap in put in danger due to the weather, even if its the weather in Poland.
Originally Posted by LW09:
“Bearing in mind its a World Cup qualifier so it will be broadcast to the world, will the FA really allow an unconventional kick off time just so ITV can fully air a live episode of Emmerdale?”
“Bearing in mind its a World Cup qualifier so it will be broadcast to the world, will the FA really allow an unconventional kick off time just so ITV can fully air a live episode of Emmerdale?”
I want to say its unfair on every other broadcaster to have their scheuldes mucked around with for Emmerdale, but they have already had their schedule torn up, and made worthless.
The FA is not in the schedule building business, its in the football business, they will put on a game (to the best of its ability) but it does expect the broadcasters who signed a contract saying they would air those games, to actually air those games.
There maybe a line about "national importance" in the contract but can we really say that Emmerdale is of "national importance"?
The good thing for ITV, is that this has created alot of extra buzz around Emmerdale, making it very clear what day and time it should be on to many, who may not have been aware before.
Danccwhilst I agree, ITVs reputation with football is in the toilet, I suspect there maybe some sympathy for the position they have been put in, from even the biggest football fans. Certainly think they can over look some ITV 4 build up. (if it comes to that). If the football does air after Emmerdale, it will ratings for Emmerdale: Extra on ITV 2 alot more interesting.
Originally Posted by LW09:
“Not to mention that it will affect ITV News at 6.30 and then affect ITV News at 10, which ITV would no doubt be criticised.
It will be interesting to see how this one works out, I could see them just pushing it onto ITV4.”
“Not to mention that it will affect ITV News at 6.30 and then affect ITV News at 10, which ITV would no doubt be criticised.
It will be interesting to see how this one works out, I could see them just pushing it onto ITV4.”
From my point of view they have every right to. If it was an act of God that caused this situation then it's more of a minefield but if FIFA officials are clearly responsible then they can't expect ITV to just scrap everything for what is planned as a big night.
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