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Old 16-10-2012, 20:45
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8pm kick off, build up on itv4 - Obviously more likely to be 7.45 ideally but I wonder if thye might have some leeway - I'm sure broadcasters have some say on kick off times.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:45
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Except this is entirely FIFA's fault, so unless the contract is a right bad'un, they should have no right to demand that ITV shows it at a certain time.
It's the fault of UEFA and the Polish stadium authorities.

Sure Poland wanting nothing to do with a game on Wednesday is not linked to their currently injured captain?

Surely build up could stay on ITV2
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:45
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And also, this being the ratings thread, moving Emmerdale pre-7pm will really harm the ratings for what is meant to be a big deal for them.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:45
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Rumour is the match will be played at 3pm tomorrow afternoon. At least that will solve the Emmerdale issue...
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:45
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Would the advertisers and such be involved in a decision over this? They won't want to be going out on ITV4 instead of ITV1 for an England game...
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:45
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3pm tomorrow apparently?

They could air a re-run at 8pm after En Fm!
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:48
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Rumour is the match will be played at 3pm tomorrow afternoon. At least that will solve the Emmerdale issue...
it would certainly help ITV from the Emmerdale POV. However I cant help but feel it would mean less value for money from the game.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:49
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Not sure it'll even be played tomorrow.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:50
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Remember what date that match was on? I'd get the ratings if I knew what date it was on.
As Fudd says, 15th June, the 5-6pm hour.

Just to check, does ITV1 absolutely have to broadcast it live? Surely their commitments to the live episode tomorrow are more important than the commitments to the match, given how much work and promotion's gone into it?

And for all those suggesting Emmerdale should be moved about, that isn't really an option. It would be an absolute nightmare for the production team to add or remove 2 hours of their schedule tomorrow, which will be very busy and planned to the minute, at less than 24 hours notice.
Exactly. ITV wouldn't not broadcast the game live (we're not Australian after all!) but I think ITV4 might be the best option - and would be interesting ratings wise. It sounds like though it probably wouldn't go ahead tomorrow - and I get the feeling if it does it'll be earlier in the day. Never mind Emmerdale - Loose Women may be ditched.

Didn't realise. Oh dear!

I do think ITV should have realised there was a risk that if tonights match didn't happen, it would be played tomorrow, hence scheduling the live Em for Thursday might have been safer.

They'll learn their lesson though!

ITV will unleash an almighty shitstorm if they aren't in Warsaw at 7.45pm tomorrow, on ITV1.
Enjoy your ITV bashing with the benefit of hindsight don't you. ITV of course are fully responsible for the roof not being closed, the stadium having no ground staff and it pissing down in Poland. Obviously events are never delayed on the BBC.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:51
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3pm tomorrow apparently?

They could air a re-run at 8pm after En Fm!
A hour of highlights, cancelling the easily-rescheduled Mr & Mrs and avoiding any scheduling issues with DCI Banks.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:51
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Not sure it'll even be played tomorrow.
Apparently it has to be.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:51
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If it's moved to 3pm that's actually a bigger headache overall for most people behind the scenes (advertisers, ITV execs, FIFA are all going to have to re-negotiate some payments) but I do feel sometimes you have to put the public first. A one-off live episode of one of the country's most popular programmes has been promised to the public for 7pm tomorrow. If they can't make that happen, then they've been truly screwed over in this contract with FIFA.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:53
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Except this is entirely FIFA's fault, so unless the contract is a right bad'un, they should have no right to demand that ITV shows it at a certain time.
I believe the rights deal is between ITV and the Polish Football Association, not FIFA.
Then the match will be shown on ITV4.
ITV won't show a World Cup Qualifier on their fourth channel. A friendly on ITV4 would even be unlikely, a qualifier would be a certain no-no. Whenever it's played, it'll be on ITV1.

Personally, I don't think they'll agree to play the game tomorrow. It'll be in June, I think.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:53
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At least it would not be on 11am like that World Cup in Korea/Japan.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:53
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If it's moved to 3pm that's actually a bigger headache overall for most people behind the scenes (advertisers, ITV execs, FIFA are all going to have to re-negotiate some payments) but I do feel sometimes you have to put the public first. A one-off live episode of one of the country's most popular programmes has been promised to the public for 7pm tomorrow. If they can't make that happen, then they've been truly screwed over in this contract with FIFA.
Any lost ad revenue from a 3pm kick-off though is kind of balanced out by the revenue from the non-match tonight.

If it goes at 3pm that works for ITV1 quite well in scheduling terms, and then they can stick highlights at 10.35pm on ITV1 and perhaps 8pm on ITV4.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:54
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A hour of highlights, cancelling the easily-rescheduled Mr & Mrs and avoiding any scheduling issues with DCI Banks.
I was thinking that too. Live match in the afternoon with an hour long highlight show after Emmerdale.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:55
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I'll be outraged if Mr & Mrs is cancelled.

Nadia Sawalha is on.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:55
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The game's off.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:57
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Never mind Emmerdale - Loose Women may be ditched
this all of a sudden makes football seems worthwhile.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:58
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Regardless of what happens with Emmerdale, this does raise interesting questions about which contracts take precedence over others in this kind of scenario.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:59
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Anti-ITV folks lead by Robbie are just trying to whip up a 'lets criticise ITV for every possible situation'.

People seem to think that every other channel around the world just shows filler every night, even if it was on Sky, they may have trouble fitting the match in without knocking off some other live sport they have scheduled.
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:59
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No confirmation from FIFA over re-arranged game.

Poland disputing game to be played tomorrow. Announcement, you'd imagine tonight
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Old 16-10-2012, 20:59
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Match to be played tomorrow; kick off 4pm. ITV1's coverage to start at 3.30pm.
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Old 16-10-2012, 21:00
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4pm tomorrow

Crap for those of us at work...
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Old 16-10-2012, 21:00
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Match to be played tomorrow at 4pm. ITV1's coverage to start at 3.30pm.
Problem solved.

Emmerdale can go ahead as planned, Mr & Mrs goes out & DCI Banks.
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