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The Ratings Thread (Part 41)
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Agent F
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“And a tv reporter had this to say.

https://twitter.com/Coops_tv/status/258493266482311168

"Phone call. It's moving. So long BBC2. #GBBO"”

It was obviously something they weren't meant to publish before an official announcement was made. But with ratings like that it was inevitable, I think it's outgrown BBC2 now.
Pizzatheaction
17-10-2012
Great rating for Bake Off.

I didn't notice yesterday, but that's a terrible rating for Monroe.
danisfunny
17-10-2012
Multi Channel Ratings - 16th October

ITV2 (inc +1)
14:35 - The Jeremy Kyle Show - 563k (8.5%)

BBC3
21:00 - Don't Tell The Bride - 944k (4%) TOP MC SHOW
22:00 - Cuckoo - 747k (4%)
22:30 - EastEnders - 556k (3.8%)

BBC4
20:00 - Lost Cities of the Ancients - 555k (2.1%)

E4 (inc +1)
18:00 - The Big Bang Theory - 532k (2.9%)
18:30 - The Big Bang Theory - 702k (3.5%)
19:00 - Hollyoaks - 617k (2.9%)
20:00 - The Big Bang Theory - 522k (2.1%)
20:30 - Suburgatory - 394k

5* (inc +1)
18:30 - Home and Away - 551k (2.7%)

Film4 (inc +1)
18:55 - Star Trek V: The Final Frontier - 172k
21:00 - Kiss The Girls - 379k

More4 (inc +1)
21:00 - Sarah Beeny's Selling Houses - 467k
22:00 - Jews At Ten - 256k

Yesterday (inc +1)
19:20 - Last of the Summer Wine - 293k

Alibi (inc +1)
21:00 - The Glades - 173k

Dave (inc Ja Vu)
21:00 - QI XL - 500k

http://channel4sales.com/data/overnights
http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/inside-itv...uesday-ratings
Roscoe Barnes
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The Great British Bake Off averaged 6.5m (24%), peaking with 7.2m (27%).”

HUGE figure for GBBO. I didn't realised it was the final last night cos I would have gone 6m+ then on the RPG. Damn!!

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Person of Interest midseason finale: 1.26m (5.4%); +1: 109k (0.7%)

Most watched episode since premiere. Beat C4 and not far behind Doc Martin on ITV1. Long wait now until it comes back in January.”

And further proof this show shouldn't be taking a mid-season break based on that rating. A good rating for it and I fear this break may harm it when it eventually returns next year. Ridiculous decision when you consider where they are in American with it now.
SamuelW
17-10-2012
Bad result for England, their hopes of qualifying for World Cup 2014 is not as good as youd hope in a group like this. Imagine the worst scenario that England dont qualify, it would be bad for both BBC and Itv without those 20million rating games.
grahamzxy
17-10-2012
Quote:
“Freeview HD and adult channel changes 17th October 2012
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DTT Platform Operator DMOL has turned down the appeals lodged by Sky and an adult channel operator, so that part of the EPG reshuffle deferred from the 19th September can now take place.

On 17th October:
HD channels will move from channels 50 - 54 to channel 101 onward.
Adult channels will move from channels 90-100 to channel 171 onward.
In Manchester, services forming part of the Manchester Television Network, currently on channels 56-59 move to 51-54.”

I tried to watch either BBC1 HD (50) or ITV1 HD (51) just now and neither channel was available, so I did a retune and after 5 minutes my HD channels are now a three button click!! I wonder if it will affect Freeview HD ratings tonight? A lot of people will not notice until primetime, and may stick with SD until they can figure out they need to retune - there was no on-screen graphic message at all.
Dancc
17-10-2012
5USA is to extend its broadcasting hours to 3am on Sundays, Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Effective from 28th October.

Spoiler
28 OCTOBER
20:00 CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION
21:00 CSI: NEW YORK
22:00 CSI: MIAMI
23:00 CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION
23:55 CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION
00:55 CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION
01:50 CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION
02:50 INSIDE HOLLYWOOD

29 OCTOBER
20:00 CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION
21:00 CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION
22:00 CSI: MIAMI
23:00 NCIS
23:55 CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION
00:55 CSI: NEW YORK
01:50 CSI: NEW YORK
02:45 INSIDE HOLLYWOOD

30 OCTOBER
20:00 CSI: MIAMI
21:00 SWORDFISH
23:00 HALLOWEEN 4
00:45 SONS OF ANARCHY
01:45 SONS OF ANARCHY

31 OCTOBER
20:00 CSI: MIAMI
21:00 BODY OF PROOF
22:00 HUMAN TARGET
22:55 HUMAN TARGET
23:50 HALLOWEEN 5
01:50 BLADE
02:45 INSIDE HOLLYWOOD

This could be good news for audience share, particularly on CSI Sunday where the late night reruns can do very well.

Maybe they'll even be able to show the Emmy's live next year?
rivkin
17-10-2012
hope bake off going to bbc1 doesnt mean it will become dodgy like master chef did in primetime or they have celebrity specials, with iplayer etc it should stay on bbc2 let that channel have at least that and top gear that pull in big viewers etc
derek500
17-10-2012
Sky have put the first episode of CBS's Elementary on their on-demand service a week before it debuts on Sky Living. First time they have done something like this.
Hassaan13
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“The Chase for Christmas Day on ITV1 ?

It could happen, given that they usually put Family Fortunes out. They're filming a one-off in November.

Maybe they could put all of the Chasers in the team, against a mystery celebrity chaser ? ”

That would be TV gold! Unfortunately it seems unlikely to happen

But a primetime Xmas special doesn't sound bad.
Jaycee Dove
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“I tried to watch either BBC1 HD (50) or ITV1 HD (51) just now and neither channel was available, so I did a retune and after 5 minutes my HD channels are now a three button click!! I wonder if it will affect Freeview HD ratings tonight? A lot of people will not notice until primetime, and may stick with SD until they can figure out they need to retune - there was no on-screen graphic message at all.”

Also on some boxes (eg our Humax) these increasingly frequent messing abouts mean you lose all your series links without warning,

Had I not been aware of this happening today and so aware I had to put them all back in ASAP I would have lost recordings today as a consequence.

So some viewers are going to end up rather peeved if they had Emmerdale set to record on ITV 1 HD and do not get home from work in time to notice it has gone walkies.
Agent F
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Sugar tweeted at the weekend "November return for YA". I'm guessing Thursday 1st at 8pm.”

This date and time has now been confirmed by the Apprentice's Facebook page.
NeilVW
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“I tried to watch either BBC1 HD (50) or ITV1 HD (51) just now and neither channel was available, so I did a retune and after 5 minutes my HD channels are now a three button click!! I wonder if it will affect Freeview HD ratings tonight? A lot of people will not notice until primetime, and may stick with SD until they can figure out they need to retune - there was no on-screen graphic message at all.”

I've seen a couple of reminders on BBC1 HD: one was added to the usual block-out message during last night's 6.30pm regional news, and there was a standalone announcement later in the evening. Pot luck if you saw it though (this was on Sky).
Hassaan13
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“I guess they'll just skip an episode of The Chase. That got 3.24m inc +1 yesterday by the way, must be close to a record high. Will the second half of the match do better?”

I believe that is a record high for the daytime version. Apparently a lot of people watch it on +1

10 THE CHASE (FRI 1800) 282 (for w/e 7 October)

Originally Posted by danisfunny:
“Multi Channel Ratings - 16th October

ITV2 (inc +1)
14:35 - The Jeremy Kyle Show - 563k (8.5%)

BBC3
21:00 - Don't Tell The Bride - 944k (4%) TOP MC SHOW
22:00 - Cuckoo - 747k (4%)
22:30 - EastEnders - 556k (3.8%)

BBC4
20:00 - Lost Cities of the Ancients - 555k (2.1%)

E4 (inc +1)
18:00 - The Big Bang Theory - 532k (2.9%)
18:30 - The Big Bang Theory - 702k (3.5%)
19:00 - Hollyoaks - 617k (2.9%)
20:00 - The Big Bang Theory - 522k (2.1%)
20:30 - Suburgatory - 394k

5* (inc +1)
18:30 - Home and Away - 551k (2.7%)

Film4 (inc +1)
18:55 - Star Trek V: The Final Frontier - 172k
21:00 - Kiss The Girls - 379k

More4 (inc +1)
21:00 - Sarah Beeny's Selling Houses - 467k
22:00 - Jews At Ten - 256k

Yesterday (inc +1)
19:20 - Last of the Summer Wine - 293k

Alibi (inc +1)
21:00 - The Glades - 173k

Dave (inc Ja Vu)
21:00 - QI XL - 500k

http://channel4sales.com/data/overnights
http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/inside-itv...uesday-ratings”

Thanks for posting those. Cuckoo seems to be up on last week's episode which is a good sign.
Ads
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by danisfunny:
“USA RATINGS
NBC
The Voice - 4.6 (12.08m)
Presidential Debate - 4.7 (12.16m)

CBS
NCIS:LA (R) - 1.4 (8.15m)
Presidential Debate - 2.2 (8.27m)

FOX
Raising Hope - 1.7 (4.28m)
Ben and Kate - 1.2 (2.91m)
Presidential Debate - 1.7 (4.21m)

ABC
Dancing With the Stars - 2.1 (12.69m)
Presidential Debate - 2.8 (10.96m)

CW
Heart of Dixie - 0.6 (1.32m)
Emily Owens, M.D. - 0.5 (1.69m)

Averages
NBC - 4.7 (12.13m)
ABC - 2.6 (11.54m)
CBS - 1.9 (8.23m)
FOX - 1.6 (4.01m)
CW - 0.6 (1.51m)

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...ts-low/153414/
http://www.spoilertv.com/2012/10/rat...ober-2012.html”

Interesting to see how much better NBC did in the demo for the Presidential debate, compared to its competitors.

Cable News ratings should be out anytime now. I wonder if MSNBC wlll get another big demo number. Fox News no doubt will have got far more viewers for the debate than its broadcast network cousin.
danisfunny
17-10-2012
Just wondering if anyone has the Overnights for last nights and last weeks Alpha's with or without +1?? Had a look on overnights.tv but it would cost me £160!! Can't find them anywhere else...

Originally Posted by Ads:
“Interesting to see how much better NBC did in the demo for the Presidential debate, compared to its competitors.

Cable News ratings should be out anytime now. I wonder if MSNBC wlll get another big demo number. Fox News no doubt will have got far more viewers for the debate than its broadcast network cousin.”

I think news events and current affairs seem to rate highest on NBC, must be a viewer loyalty thing, I think their nightly news and breakfast rate highest too, but I could be mistaken...
Georged123
17-10-2012
I seriously can't understand why people are disappointed about the GBBO moving to the number one channel.

Originally Posted by ronant:
“GBBO should move because BBC2's job is to provide an alternative to the mainstream, it is not to compete with BBC1. GBBO is now a mainstream hit, and its place is on BBC1.

BBC2 now needs to find something different. That's what it's role is. If BBC2 now had WDYTYA?, Apprentice, Masterchef, Bake Off, HIGNFY there wouldn't be any room for anything new and both BBC1 and 2 would be weaker for it (although 2's ratings would be bigger, it wouldn't be fulfilling its purpose).”

Great explanation of why it should move.
sn_22
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“This date and time has now been confirmed by the Apprentice's Facebook page.”

If they must persist with this spin-off, then I think 8pm is a good idea. It helps to differentiate the show again and besides, it's not really strong enough to carry the 9pm slot. It should prove a much more effective competition to Emmerdale than Waterloo Road, too - skewing towards men and ABC1's to a much greater degree.

If Great British Bake-Off does wind up on BBC One, I think it needs to keep an 8pm slot there too - I guess Holby will keep Tuesday, but Wednesday or Thursday would be fine. I'd rather it stayed where it is, frankly, but if it's able to add a bit of badly-needed ratings heft to BBC One's pre-watershed weekday schedule then perhaps it's worth it.
danisfunny
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“If they must persist with this spin-off, then I think 8pm is a good idea. It helps to differentiate the show again and besides, it's not really strong enough to carry the 9pm slot. It should prove a much more effective competition to Emmerdale than Waterloo Road, too - skewing towards men and ABC1's to a much greater degree.

If Great British Bake-Off does wind up on BBC One, I think it needs to keep an 8pm slot there too - I guess Holby will keep Tuesday, but Wednesday or Thursday would be fine. I'd rather it stayed where it is, frankly, but if it's able to add a bit of badly-needed ratings heft to BBC One's pre-watershed weekday schedule then perhaps it's worth it.”

They could use the move to BBC1 to shorten Holby's run? Which could be great for the ratings of both shows, Bake Off gets and EE lead in and Holby's storylines aren't stretched as much...
SamuelW
17-10-2012
I reduce my prediction for Emmerdale live from 9.5million to 8.5m. Ratings so far this week havent been great - only 0.5m better than last week - and the live episode has been dull, missing the excitement and edge of your seat moments which Eastenders and coronation street live episodes had.
Brekkie
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Thanks for the heads-up; it's worth bearing in mind tomorrow that BBC1 Scotland showed football tonight and opted out of The Paradise (relegating it to BBC2 Scotland). This will slightly boost the reported overnight for The Paradise and possibly Ian Hislop's BBC2 show as well.”

Strange that BBC Scotland have always shown their national team on BBC1 yet BBC Wales when they had the rights kept them on BBC2, generally causing less disruption to the schedule.

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Hmm, that suggests a schedule of...

6.00 Doctor Who
7.00 Strictly Come Dancing [not in article but...]
8.00 EastEnders
9.00 Call The Midwife
10.00 The Royle Family”

If CTM is on Christmas Day (which it shouldn't) I'd switch it with EastEnders.

Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“football 15 mins

ITV1
2831
3452
4416
3358
3191
3800
2842
ITV1HD
431
684
878
669
629
792
460

that's all from me ”

Probably the highest ratings in the 8pm hour ITV will have all autumn!


Originally Posted by C14E:
“Skins Pure - Cassie (Hannah Murray)
Skins Rise - Cook (Jack O'Connell)
Skins Fire - Effy (Kaya Scodelario)

I wonder how they'll schedule that - one a week or two part stories over two nights a week?

On one hand I'm not sure how it will work - even Effy and Cook seem like ages ago - Cassie was last on screens in 2008 and IIRC a lot of their stories seemed fairly final but I guess they're picking up years into the future to get around that. But I know I'll definitely tune in anyway and given the right promo it might attract some nostalgic viewers. Looking forward to it.

I never watched series 5 and to be honest I don't really know why I didn't. I loved the reinvention in series 3 which is my favourite of the lot (and the only one to actually build in ratings through the run). But maybe it was the fact that they had the continuity through Effy that helped the transition? For whatever reason I just couldn't get invested in a third group. Plus, series 4 got a bit odd towards the end.

It'll be a tough show for E4 to replace.”

I do think the third generation suffered by not having a link to the second, and it's surprising really they hadn't set one up considering Effy was quite crucial in the transition between the second and third series.

I do think Cook and Cassie both had endings in their eras which really should have been left unanswered. Now we know Cook is alive and we'll get some kind of answer that never satisfy viewers about Sid and Cassie. The Effy edition doesn't sound too brilliant either.

Originally Posted by Tassium:
“Is it any wonder the BBC get accused of ratings chasing, that's what they do.

No earthly reason to take the Bake-Off Thingy to BBC1, no earthy reason other than ratings that is.

And so BBC2 (and BBC3) never get a chance to actually deliver on their remit and develop a brand that people will be drawn too.

Channels are defined by the programmes that air on them, not some gee-wiz graphic.”

A real shame once again for BBC2 - and completely the wrong decision. It's a BBC2 show and moving it to BBC1 will only damage it.

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Bad result for England, their hopes of qualifying for World Cup 2014 is not as good as youd hope in a group like this. Imagine the worst scenario that England dont qualify, it would be bad for both BBC and Itv without those 20million rating games.”

Good in the meantime though for ITV to have games that matter.
fodg09
17-10-2012
Fox News had 11.1m viewers last night for the debate, should at least tie with if not beat their most ever watched 'telecast' - the Palin/Biden debate in 2008. CNN was down on the first debate, MSNBC was up but still third overall.
rivkin
17-10-2012
does anyone know what happened to an and decs gameshow pokerface that was on itv mybe 2 years ago ??? was it axed due to ratings or was it just not re commisioned due to itv having money probs at the time? it was a good show and far better than red or black or that push the button gameshow an n dec did. could even be a 5pm gameshow to stand in for the chase when its on a break from schedual etc
rivkin
17-10-2012
thats ant and dec not an and dec 8-)
Steve Williams
17-10-2012
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“ Strange that BBC Scotland have always shown their national team on BBC1 yet BBC Wales when they had the rights kept them on BBC2, generally causing less disruption to the schedule.”

Well, it was a long time ago when BBC Wales had the rights, they lost them in 2004, and it's not that unusual because they used to show a lot more football including the hilariously half-arsed FAW Premier Cup which certainly wasn't BBC1 material, so it sort of made sense to have all the Welsh football on BBC2. The only time it looked really weird was exactly ten years ago yesterday when England vs Macedonia was on BBC1 Wales and Wales vs Italy was on BBC2 Wales at the same time.

If BBC Wales got the rights to some live games now, they probably would put them on BBC1. But the Scottish games are generally bigger anyway, whether that's the League Cup matches they show or the Scottish national team matches. Wales were in a real state for much of the last decade or so on BBC Wales anyway, the second they got good they were on Sky.

Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“If CTM is on Christmas Day (which it shouldn't) I'd switch it with EastEnders.”

Why shouldn't it be on Christmas Day, Brekkie? Is it because you won't be able to post your usual complaint about BBC1 showing the same things on Christmas Day?
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