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BBC Red Button Changes Announced
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On 15th October the video component of BBC Red Button on Sky, FreeSat and Virgin Media will be reduced from five to one stream, bringing it in line with our Freeview offer. We are doing this because these services rely entirely on linear broadcast technologies, which are not cost-effective for an interactive service like the red button. At the end of this post, I've summarised the background to the decision and provided links to relevant documents which expand on the reasoning behind reducing the number of video streams.
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In November 2010, the BBC Trust Red Button Service Review highlighted the high cost of delivering content on multiple video streams. This review references plans by the BBC's Executive Board to reduce the service on satellite and cable after the Olympics to reduce costs. And a new Red Button service:The BBC's DQF proposals, published in October 2011, outlined plans to reduce the number of red button video streams from five to one after the Olympics. This was approved and published by the BBC Trust in May 2012. Quote:
Reinventing the Red Button
Red button is central to our vision of the future of television. Even though video streams will be reduced on Sky, FreeSat and Virgin Media, we are reinventing red button for the future. In June this year, my colleague Daniel Danker outlined our plan to bring the best of BBC Red Button together with the best of BBC Online on your television - something we're calling Connected Red Button. This will take advantage of new web-based technologies that deliver richer, more visually-enticing programmes. New functions like 'live restart' will be introduced directly to your TV, meaning that next time you come in halfway through The Apprentice, you can simply skip back to the start of the programme. Or, if you don't like what's on, find your favourite programme in BBC iPlayer or catch up with the latest news and sport live and on-demand, all on your TV. I believe Connected Red Button will be a real step forward for audiences and will lay the foundations for new creative opportunities; new ways of thinking about television and radio programmes. The first version of the Connected Red Button launches later this year. Look out for more details soon. |
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And what for those people who don't have computers or connected TVs.
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And what for those people who don't have computers or connected TVs.
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And what for those people who don't have computers or connected TVs.
Ian. If they could, and importantly, if they had the money and bandwidth and did not have the BBC Trust ensuring that everything that the BBC provided gave value for money via its Public Value Test, they would no doubt have 24 Red Button streams on DTT and satellite, as well as HD versions of all of its channels, +1 versions of all of its channels, BBC Three and BBC Four running 24 hrs, But sadly, this is the real world, with a 6-year LF freeze. |
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Good point, but sadly the BBC cannot hope to cater for all people, all income levels, all personal circumstances and all lifestyle choices.
If they could, and importantly, if they had the money and bandwidth and did not have the BBC Trust ensuring that everything that the BBC provided gave value for money via its Public Value Test, they would no doubt have 24 Red Button streams on DTT and satellite, as well as HD versions of all of its channels, +1 versions of all of its channels, BBC Three and BBC Four running 24 hrs, But sadly, this is the real world, with a 6-year LF freeze. Ian. |
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But sadly, this is the real world, with a 6-year LF freeze. |
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Yes, welcome to the real world, BBC, you've been living in cloud cuckoo land for the last God knows how many years.
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When the BBC can take £22m and spend it on a 2 year contract for The Voice, to outbid ITV for it, i have zero sympathy for the BBC and its claims of money-constrained.
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When the BBC can take £22m and spend it on a 2 year contract for The Voice, to outbid ITV for it, i have zero sympathy for the BBC and its claims of money-constrained.
Also, the format allows the BBC to make money from overseas sales, the tour (if it had gone ahead) and sales from records. It got the viewers, but (with the exception of some programme sales) the rest didn't work. But you have to gamble when you get your income frozen (which is a real world cut of course) and it's at the behest of commercial media baron. Blame him - and the government for not being strong enough to stand up to him. |
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I'm not a BBC basher but with all this going on I really think there should be an opt out service where if you don't want the BBC you.don't have to pay for it. I for one will not miss it as I never watch or listen to any BBC service. What's going to happen with the BBC licence fee after this price freeze will it go up big Time ?.
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I'm not a BBC basher but with all this going on I really think there should be an opt out service where if you don't want the BBC you.don't have to pay for it. I for one will not miss it as I never watch or listen to any BBC service. What's going to happen with the BBC licence fee after this price freeze will it go up big Time ?.
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I'm not a BBC basher but with all this going on I really think there should be an opt out service where if you don't want the BBC you.don't have to pay for it. I for one will not miss it as I never watch or listen to any BBC service. What's going to happen with the BBC licence fee after this price freeze will it go up big Time ?.
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Bit annoying as online services won't work on my HTPC (at least until MediaPortal supports MHEG, which'll probably be never).
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Poor Wimbledon coverage next year for those without a computer - just one extra court coverage.
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Good point, but sadly the BBC cannot hope to cater for all people, all income levels, all personal circumstances and all lifestyle choices.
If they could, and importantly, if they had the money and bandwidth and did not have the BBC Trust ensuring that everything that the BBC provided gave value for money via its Public Value Test, they would no doubt have 24 Red Button streams on DTT and satellite, as well as HD versions of all of its channels, +1 versions of all of its channels, BBC Three and BBC Four running 24 hrs, But sadly, this is the real world, with a 6-year LF freeze. Surreal stuff, "the BBC cannot hope to cater for all people..." |
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This takes support of the executive to new levels.
Surreal stuff, "the BBC cannot hope to cater for all people..." |
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I'm not a BBC basher but with all this going on I really think there should be an opt out service where if you don't want the BBC you.don't have to pay for it. I for one will not miss it as I never watch or listen to any BBC service. What's going to happen with the BBC licence fee after this price freeze will it go up big Time ?.
A freeze Hunt introduced with no consultation, no evaluation of the effects, no manifesto mandate and no discussion in Parliament. It clearly wasn't "to help people struggling to pay their bills" since a freeze doesn't have any effect for several years. It doesn't help anyone in any way now! Putting more sport rights on the FTA list would have meant millions of people could have saved £600 a year paying for Sky Sports to see cricket, football etc. That would have been a far bigger way to help people struggling today! But that would have hurt Sky, so of course that couldn't happen.... |
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It can be difficult to distinguish between what is technically possible and what makes economic sense. The BBC already repeats shows many times the same week they are first broadcast and months later, as well as putting them on Dave, Alibi, etc, making them available ondownload and selling everything except the test card and Teletext on DVD. Cutting a few slow and unresponsive red button options that only a few people use won't exactly hurt.
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Mossy's right though, it can't.
The whole point of the BBC is to provide for all, and to not create a "two tier" BBC This sort of "ignore the minority" thinking is as far away from public service as you can get. |
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ITV can't, BSkyB can't, CH5 can't... I could go on.
The whole point of the BBC is to provide for all, and to not create a "two tier" BBC This sort of "ignore the minority" thinking is as far away from public service as you can get. |
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Yes, welcome to the real world, BBC, you've been living in cloud cuckoo land for the last God knows how many years.
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When the BBC can take £22m and spend it on a 2 year contract for The Voice, to outbid ITV for it, i have zero sympathy for the BBC and its claims of money-constrained.
However, the real world is the real world. |
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This takes support of the executive to new levels.
Surreal stuff, "the BBC cannot hope to cater for all people..." Please indicate how the BBC could have 24 Red Button streams on DTT and satellite, as well as HD versions of all of its channels, +1 versions of all of its channels, BBC Three and BBC Four running 24 hrs (which is what people seem to expect). Or how the BBC could ignore the BBC Trust Red Button Service Review which highlighted the high cost of delivering content on multiple video streams. And how this review referenced plans by the BBC's Executive Board to reduce the service on satellite and cable after the Olympics to reduce costs. Go on - how would the BBC provide all of that? How would they do that whilst having a 6-year LF freeze? And how would they do it whilst ignoring the results of the Trust's Red Button review? The floor is yours. |
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