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Arrow startson Sky 1 Oct 22nd *UK PACE*
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deadmancarl
02-06-2016
Well I'm not sure what to make of the finale last night. It started OK but unless I missed something how did Oliver's eyes glow and by taping into peoples hope he could beat Dark.

With the team disbanding/going off - I guess we will get a few episodes of Oliver playing mayor and John playing Soldier. Something will then happen to John and Oliver will need to save him etc,

All in all, I'm glad that season 4 has ended as I've been struggling with it and Damien Dark was not a good season long villain but I guess once you commit to the story ark it is hard to change it part way through.
Bermondseybrick
02-06-2016
first time I said this ...but that episode annoyed me .....20 minutes until a nuke is about to hit city and oli is giving uplifting speeches to rioters and hearts to heart with felicity

I get why they needed to put that scene into place because of GA using the people hope to beat DD but still

also how did laurel dad and felicity's mum hear the speech oli gave (its possible I missed something ) I get it was broadcast on the radio but it left me confused where there reporters at the riot ??

also the ghosts all season have had automatic machine guns yet decide to take on the unarmed untrained citizens of star city in hand to hand combat (and lost!!!!!) why didnt they just open up with a hail of bullets (I know suspension of disbelief and all that but still )

I love arrow one of my favourite programs but that finale bugged the piss out of me
Nihonga
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by deadmancarl:
“Well I'm not sure what to make of the finale last night. It started OK but unless I missed something how did Oliver's eyes glow and by taping into peoples hope he could beat Dark.

With the team disbanding/going off - I guess we will get a few episodes of Oliver playing mayor and John playing Soldier. Something will then happen to John and Oliver will need to save him etc,

All in all, I'm glad that season 4 has ended as I've been struggling with it and Damien Dark was not a good season long villain but I guess once you commit to the story ark it is hard to change it part way through.”

The speech Oliver gave galvanished the people of city to fight against the evil that was in Darkh. The goodness in them in effect helped Oliver to counter against the darkness in Darkh and killed him. So no, you didn't miss anything, although I agree that how Oliver was able to beat Damien didn't come across all that clearly.

The season was a real slogfest in some parts. The first few episodes in the first half of the season were good. It was perhaps better than season 3, but still way below the excitment that Seasons 1 and 2 offered. I agree Damien Darkh, although very well played by Noah, was a rather dull villian (dull in the sense that wasn't much to him other). He just did not offer much of a complexity or challenge to himself and the team that would've stretched his character as well as Team Arrow's. John didn't have much to do other than be dragged down by his brother. Felicity and Oliver were in a repeat cycle as far as their relationship was concerned until they mercifully decided to call it quits (for now). Laural Lance had much much better dialogue in the Flash. Even the fight scenes seemed a bit jaded in the mouth.

Good bits for me were introducing Curtis (but I feel they need to hold off on the comedy when there is scene overloaded with tension crisis), resolving what happened to Ray Palmer, the Flash crossover and Felicity's dad. That's from the top of my head; like I said, itjust felt a bit like a slogfest unfortunately.
carl.waring
02-06-2016
I do kind-of agree with the above comments. I also wondered about Malcolm. He's been behind Dhark this whole time and yet, right at the end, he switches sides again with no explanation Did I miss something?
dearmrman
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by carl.waring:
“I do kind-of agree with the above comments. I also wondered about Malcolm. He's been behind Dhark this whole time and yet, right at the end, he switches sides again with no explanation :confused: Did I miss something?”

He's never been behind Dhark, he's been behind Thea, doing what he sees is best to keep her safe, even if that was to align himself with Dhark to protect her.
deadmancarl
03-06-2016
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“He's never been behind Dhark, he's been behind Thea, doing what he sees is best to keep her safe, even if that was to align himself with Dhark to protect her.”


Yes, but they kind of accepted him back, even though he was partially responsible for Laurel's death by helping Dhark. I had hoped they would kill him off this season just to stop him meddling in everything.
whedon247
03-06-2016
terrible finale to end a poor season

might not watch next year and just binge it this time next year instead.
Alex_M1
03-06-2016
I wrote an article about this season of Arrow, which I'd appreciate if people took a look at!

It's all about several deaths that have occurred (and were mishandled), so spoilers abound.
SXTony
03-06-2016
I'm glad that's over. I doubt I'll be coming back for next season.

Arrow has gone from being one of my favourite shows to probably the worst one that I still watch.
Woodbine
03-06-2016
Wasn't the best season but I still found it enjoyable. Only thing I dislike is the flashbacks, they're getting boring now.
deadmancarl
03-06-2016
Originally Posted by Woodbine:
“Wasn't the best season but I still found it enjoyable. Only thing I dislike is the flashbacks, they're getting boring now.”

At first on the island in the first season I thought the flash backs were good as it showed what Oliver went through. Now they just try and mirror what is happening in Star/Starling city.

I guess we still need to see the Russian angle and how he joined the Russian Mafia, although the way this episode finished it looked like he would be coming home soon.
Westy2
04-06-2016
My sister has just discovered Arrow as someone lent her Season 1 on Dvd.

She has now bought the Season 1 to 3 boxset from Cex.

Any idea when Season 4 might be repeated so she can complete her catch up?
SapphicGrrl
06-06-2016
Originally Posted by Westy2:
“My sister has just discovered Arrow as someone lent her Season 1 on Dvd.

She has now bought the Season 1 to 3 boxset from Cex.

Any idea when Season 4 might be repeated so she can complete her catch up?”

I'd like to know the same thing - I'm also a season behind. However, I've been watching Season 3 on Sky (and carefully avoiding 4 so I don't get confused!) - hopefully Sky will now start screening Season 4, to accommodate watchers like me (it makes sense - otherwise why screen 3?). Fingers crossed...
carl.waring
06-06-2016
Certainly not in the next two week for sure. Sorry.
AA2009
07-06-2016
Both this and The Flash had pretty poor finales...so I don't have high hopes for Legends of Tomorrow's finale.
carl.waring
07-06-2016
Indeed. Less of a bang, more of a wimper Still enjoyed them though
Motthus
24-08-2016
Arrow new season starts on Sky 1 on the 26th October
deadmancarl
25-08-2016
Originally Posted by Motthus:
“Arrow new season starts on Sky 1 on the 26th October”

Sounds like we will be a few weeks behind this year rather than the usual 1 at the start but at least that means that can run straight through to the mid season break without having to miss a week or 2
CBFreak
25-08-2016
Originally Posted by Motthus:
“Arrow new season starts on Sky 1 on the 26th October”

Guess I better catch up on the 10 or so episodes I have on my planner.
(I actually got a bit bored half way through the last season and stopped watching for a while)
Westy2
25-08-2016
Will we get through Season 4 rerun before Season 5 starts?

(On behalf of my sister!)
carl.waring
25-08-2016
Yes but only just.

They start S3 on 16.09 with six episodes a week. 46 episodes in S3+4 means they will finish on 04.11.16
SapphicGrrl
31-08-2016
I've been enjoying Seasons 1 and 2, which I hadn't actually seen - thanks, Sky, for bringing us up to speed...
SapphicGrrl
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by SapphicGrrl:
“I've been enjoying Seasons 1 and 2, which I hadn't actually seen - thanks, Sky, for bringing us up to speed...”

I've been in Arrow heaven! To update my post, I've managed to watch every single episode - up until now! Stupid Sky somehow lost my Arrow recording request the other day (which of course is on a permanent series link) - so I've missed S4 episodes 13 & 14, grrr... I'm obviously starting again tonight with episode 15 - but does anyone know where I could watch 13 & 14? (And don't say Sky - they stingily won't let you watch any back episodes! ) I have a love/hate relationship with Sky - they make me very happy by repeating the entire Arrow series, then they go and screw it up like this (it's not the first time - I often find recordings just mysteriously disappearing overnight!).

I suspect I'm on a hiding to nothing here, but I thought it was worth the ask... (Otherwise I'll have to try and piece together little snippets on YouTube.)
anyonefortennis
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by SapphicGrrl:
“I've been in Arrow heaven! To update my post, I've managed to watch every single episode - up until now! Stupid Sky somehow lost my Arrow recording request the other day (which of course is on a permanent series link) - so I've missed S4 episodes 13 & 14, grrr... I'm obviously starting again tonight with episode 15 - but does anyone know where I could watch 13 & 14? (And don't say Sky - they stingily won't let you watch any back episodes! ) I have a love/hate relationship with Sky - they make me very happy by repeating the entire Arrow series, then they go and screw it up like this (it's not the first time - I often find recordings just mysteriously disappearing overnight!).

I suspect I'm on a hiding to nothing here, but I thought it was worth the ask... (Otherwise I'll have to try and piece together little snippets on YouTube.)”

Do a Google search and you will easily find them available to view online free on a lot of sites. I would post links but you are not allowed to on here.
SapphicGrrl
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“Do a Google search and you will easily find them available to view online free on a lot of sites. I would post links but you are not allowed to on here.”

They appear free, but then I discover that they tend to send you to a paysite... I'm managing on YouTube actually, somebody has kindly knitted together a lot of snippets in the right order. (But thanks!)

Roll on Season 5!
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