There are some sites which you don't need to subscribe to. It just takes a little time to find them. But they are out there.

It's OK, I'm done, thanks. (The snippets were a little truncated, but they got me where I needed to be!) But I'll bear your advice in mind for the future?

There's always iTunes, of course. £2.49 per episode

Well as this thread is active. Reminder that Arrow is back next Wednesday

And The Flash and Supergirl. First episodes are available on demand.

I don't think they are, only option I have is to set it to record or a reminder.

The earlier seasons are also on Amazon Prime.

Has Sky 2 missed out half of the Season 4 rerun, as we had the earlier episodes on Series Link & my sister has informed me / showed me that she has seen up to Series 3, but Series 4 is missing the earlier episodes!

(Which rather buggers up her plan to get up to date for Season 5, which she wont watch until she has seen all of Season 4!)

I've watched virtually every Arrow episode back to back on Sky, and they did include all the the Season 4 episodes (to date) - I checked on Wikipedia to make sure! However, I also found a problem with the series link, sometimes it just drops and you miss some episodes, and then you have to restart the recordings (a pain in the neck, as they've been on mostly every day, and you tend to trust the series link? And sometimes recorded programmes just disappear into thin air, although that could be my dodgy set-up, lol...). And if you miss them, they've gone - Sky aren't providing any On Demand/download options for them. However, as anyonefortennis kindly informed me further up, there are places where you can watch whole episodes without having to pay, I've discovered - this is how I've managed to catch up (rather than watching knitted-together snippets on YouTube, which is what I'd been doing before). And beware Season 5 - I found that I had to set up a fresh series link for that, as the previous one wasn't picking it up.

Musings (tongue-in-cheek! ) before next season starts (now that I've just finished 1-4):-

- everyone says good-bye - yeah yeah, it's old, they'll be back - somehow, some time!

- why didn't Sara, Roy or even Barry pop in to help save the world (instead of leaving it to Oliver and 20 civilians in a cul-de-sac)? Unless Sara (and Ray) had already been kidnapped by Rip Hunter, that is, hmm...

- give lovely Paul Blackthorne his hair back (please!)

- Felicity's mum has had a boob transplant - could this please be followed by a brain transplant? (Mmm, let's throw out my genius ex, just as the world's about to end - not that he knows anything about computers, doh...) And a wardrobe transplant might be good too?

- Damian Darhk - possibly the most camply slappable Arrow villain ever (although they did give him some cool lines), and probably the most unfit (Neal McDonough's stuntman did nearly everything physical except actually stand there and deliver the lines?) - although sweet that Mrs Darhk was called Ruvé, after McDonough's own wife?

- Felicity - nearly as slappable as Darhk - will you please sort out your relationship? You two love each other (even though you're clearly on the spectrum ) - so just stop mucking around, do! (And what's happened to your calves? They've grown enormous - have you started running marathons? )

- No. More. Flashbacks. (Pretty please?!)

- I want action right from the get-go in the new series, please - Oliver driving off to City Hall with a briefcase just isn't going to cut it. (I'm pretty confident the green suit will still get plenty of wear - otherwise what's the point?! )

- Malcolm Merlyn will never die. (That's the impression I get anyway? I reckon John Barrowman must be best pals with a senior Arrow bod - he bounces back like Zebedee!)

Otherwise, I'm completely open, production team - sock it to me, and let's see what ya got...

(Rather off point - I've long detected a viral strain of RDJS running through DC/Arrowverse? RDJS = Robert Downey Jnr Syndrome, most specifically his rapid-fire, quirky, wholly RDJ-ish Iron Man performance. Felicity has it in spades, Curtis has it, Cisco has it, Ray has it - and I even detected a smattering of it in Mr Darhk? Thing is, guys, it kind of belongs to RDJ, it's his style of delivery, it's how he is & it's why Downey gets the work he does. You are not - and don't need to be - RDJ, you're you. All very flattering to copy, sure, but it just doesn't ring true when you lot try to apply it to your own wise-cracking lines? Just do your own thing - we know you can? )

"Keep that elevated."
"Keep what elevated?"
(Whoosh!)
"Aarrgh!"

Love it!

Surely I'm not the only Arrow watcher tonight? Where are you all?!

Anyway...

- Quentin - still bald and with a beard (please make him pretty again! ) Still, at least ditzy Donna seems to be out of the picture...

- more flashbacks... (noooo!) The worst bit is having to see Oliver in that straggly long wig again, eww...

- Laurel's statue - a tad weird?

- Speedy arrives - Speedy goes again! (Stop pretending you're the girl next door, Thea - you've been in the Lazarus Pit!)

- Felicity - a startling Trump-like orangey tan - and some beardy copper giving her a shoulder rub! (Get him out! He's bound to be a secret baddie anyway...)

Oliver seems rather rudderless, I can't get that excited yet about the new vigilantes, and the baddies seem to be run by a rather menacing gangsta who appears to have been at the pies (amongst others - but he'll end up leading them?). Still, on the whole, plenty of action - & my favourite first episode out of the three this week. (And possibly the RDJS virus perhaps on the wane? Fingers crossed!)

Watching at US Pace

Well, after the terrible last series, I said I wasn't going to watch this one. But, of course, I did.

It wasn't too bad actually. The new bad guy seemed pretty good, I liked the evil arrow dude at the end. Oliver seems a bit more like the Oliver from the first season. The only things I wasn't all that keen on were the Black Canary statue, which looked odd and Felicity seems to be living in Oliver's apartment, that'll be awkward when the gropey cop is there too.

I'll watch some more.

BIB - Ripe for vandalism if you ask me...

The gropey cop can surely not last? (For loads of reasons.) If he's looking smarmy already (and he is), he's bound to turn out to be a bad 'un. (Felicity needs a slap - she's turning out to be far more high maintenance that I'd ever envisaged?! Go to Oliver, you silly girl... He had no choice about William - don't you get that yet? Sigh...)

But at least there was lots of good Arrow-action going on?


How are you doing that? (I won't be joining you, I'm not looking for spoilers!)

There's loads of methods of watching at US Pace which I won't go into on an open forum. I tend to watch mine online on the CW website once they've aired using an American friend's account.

Ooh - sneaky!

I hope you've got the internet on a large TV then; or at least a way of displaying the picture on your TV. Would hate to have to sit at my PC to watch a TV show

On topic... yes. A good season-opener.

Doesn't bother me at all, I've always watched stuff on a PC monitor.

Disappointed with the first episode. Seems like its still stuck in its rut.

I agree. It feels like deja view. Same 'ole same 'ole. It needs a new storyline.

I think they're trying? I'm getting more into it now - I like Ragman! (But not so sure of the others yet...) I'm even quite liking the flashbacks (which usually drive me mad). And who is Prometheus? (But I'm aching for John and Thea to get their suits back on again - why keep them in the 'suit museum' otherwise? Pretty sure John will soon be back after his army disappointment!) The other thing is the yawning awkward gap between Oliver and Felicity (and that silly boyfriend of hers) - look, just stop messing about, you two!

Where would you take this, anyonefortennis? Bearing in mind the general Arrow premise, it's hard to see how much out of its 'comfort zone' it could go, no?

They're loving the slow mo this season, also think Rory will turn on team Arrow now.

I know just having the newbies magically trained up is far fetched, but I think I rather they did that than have to sit through all this "they're not ready yet" faff.

Yes, we want action & we want it now! (I suppose we have to watch them screw up, so we can then see how much they improve - or not? We may get a dropout or two - you never know...)