Still a billion times better than the shite winner we actually got.

I don't think Dexter would get any votes with a proper jury, except maybe a pity vote from Gina.

Charlie and Gina, Dan and Hazel (Respect votes) and also Sophie would of over Sam

I'm taking this thread on the assumption that the entire series would be run by a BBUS style format (which BBUK desperately needs to take on, the public don't have a clue generally), in which case I would say that under that system the F2 in BB13 would consist of two from Lydia, Benedict, Scott and Lauren. Athletic, competitive, good socially and intellectually.

I think Dexter would have won a jury vote.

Callum and Jack & Joe would be locked Sam votes, Charlie and Sophie (her and Sam didn't get on plus she liked Dexter towards the end) would be locked Dexter votes.

The swing votes would be Dan's, Hazel's and Gina's, but I expect Dan would have voted for Dexter as he was singing his praises on BOTS close to the final, I suspect after everything Gina had gone through with Dexter she'd also have voted for him, and so that'd be 4-3 at the very least. Hazel's vote is genuinely up in the air, but I think she was closer to Dexter in all honesty.

I think you'd be right if the show was governed by 'strategy' the way the US one is, but I think they'd side with the public appeasing option of picking the harmless young guy who needs the money to start his life

Bumping this with the CBB12 Finale scenarios:

Final 2 (Abz vs Charlotte):
Lauren: Abz
Carol: Charlotte
Mario: Charlotte
Vicky: Abz
Louie: Charlotte
Courtney: Abz
Bruce: Abz

Abz wins 4-3

Final 3 (Abz vs Charlotte vs Lauren):
Carol: Charlotte
Mario: Charlotte
Vicky: Abz
Louie: Charlotte
Courtney: Lauren
Bruce: Abz
Dustin: Abz
Sophie: Charlotte
Ron: Lauren

Charlotte wins 4-3-2

The BB USA format just shits on the UK format, they should change around to make it much more interesting. If they rely a lot on public votes add twists such as the MVP from this season's BB USA or "America's player".

Much of this year's BBUSA was awful and showed the downsides of having no public vote, as there were no likable people in the top 5 (post Elissa) which made me lose interest.

But this was mainly due to the casting, there's been plenty of likable people in the previous 14 seasons of the show that have got to the end.

Sam vs Dexter
Gina: Dexter
The Twins: Sam
Charlie: Dexter
Sophie: Dexter
Hazel: Sam
Callum: Sam
Dan: Dexter

Dexter wins 5-4 IMO.

Bumping this up with the recent CBB13 finale:

Final 2: Jim vs. Dappy (Jury of seven):
Liz- Dappy
Linda- Dappy
Lee- Dappy
Casey- Jim
Sam- Dappy
Luisa- Dappy (this one could go either way though)
Ollie- Dappy

Dappy wins 6-1,depending on Luisa's vote.

Final 3: Jim vs. Dappy vs. Ollie (Jury of 9):
Evander- Jim
Jasmine- Ollie
Lionel- Ollie
Liz- Dappy
Linda- Dappy
Lee- Dappy
Casey- Jim
Sam- Ollie
Luisa- Dappy

Dappy wins 4-3-2

Anyone agree?

In so far as it's predictable those seem like reasonable predictions.

Final 2 would certainly go to Dappy, although it could go as close as 4-3 as Luisa (easily) and Ollie (possibly) might vote for Jim.

Final 3 could go any way, although I can't see Ollie winning it. I can't see any vote truly nailed down for him, not even Sam's.

Richard Hatch is important in Survivor history for introducing the strategic villainous 'outwit' element in the inaugural season but he's never at the top of all time greatest winner tables that I've seen. Parvati played a fantastic social, strategic and physical game 2 times and is usually high in any poll. Boston Rob Marino is another favourite winner, and v popular with fans. And Sandra Diaz won twice for her social/strategic game, flying way below radar, despite being atrocious at physical stuff.

US Survivor is IMO the best reality show ever created. I wish it was on over here. It's gripping, fascinating, superbly made, and brilliantly orchestrated by arguably the best presenter on TV, Jeff Probst.

Think Jasmine and Linda's votes would be the hardest to predict.
I don't really remember how Jasmine and Ollie got on, but I kind of think that Luisa would be rooting for a stronger character to win and Jasmine would be on board with that aswell. So I think Jasmine would be a vote for Dappy rather than Ollie, not so much Jim since he seemed to have little time for her.

Linda may have been put off voting for Dappy due to his association with Jim. She did say Ollie needed to grow some balls but she also really liked him and so if he did an impressive jury speech or played a bit more fiercely in the final stages he may have won her vote.

I agree with the rest though, plus swapping Jasmine and Linda's votes doesn't change the final result anyway.

Bumping this up with the votes for the previous two series:

BB15 Final 2- Helen vs Ashleigh
Zoe: Helen
Mark: Helen
Winston: Helen
Pav: Helen
Chris: Ashleigh
Ash: Helen
Christopher: Ashleigh
Helen wins 5-2

Pav's vote is the only one that might be a little up in the air, but the rest seem unfortunately quite straightforward

BB15 Final 3- Helen vs Ashleigh vs Christopher
Bianca: Helen
Danielle: Ashleigh
Steven: Helen
Zoe: Helen
Mark: Helen
Winston: Helen
Pav: Helen
Chris: Ashleigh
Ash: Helen
Helen wins 7-2-0

Christopher being in a final 3 doesn't really change much, but we do get a potentially interesting situation with Mark's vote. In this situation Kimberley loses her jury place due to her voluntary departure, but if she was to be included her vote would have been for Helen so it doesn't matter too much.

CBB14 Final 2: Gary vs Audley
Kellie: Audley
Ricci: Gary
Lauren: Audley
Edele: Gary
Dee: Audley
George: Audley
James: Audley
Audley wins 5-2

The vote most up in the air is Edele, she could go either way and I can imagine the same to a lesser extent with Ricci, it depends on how easily manipulated he is but he seemed genuinely annoyed with Audley in his interview so I can imagine a bitter Gary vote. James having to decide between the two would be hilarious though.

CBB14 Final 3: Gary vs Audley vs James
Leslie: James
Frenchy: Gary
Stephanie: James
Kellie: Audley
Ricci: James
Lauren: James
Edele: James
Dee: James
George: James
James wins 7-1-1

Proof ladies and gents that the final 2 is always the better solution. James has a lot of friends on the jury and wins easily.