Anyone agree? I did like Karen when i first saw her. I like her as a dancer. But after seeing Nicky and Karen's training video and their dance,i get a feeling that she is not a good teacher like Natalie,Ola,Robin. Even though Craig was little bit harsh about lift in their dance,he is right. But she didn't seem to be taken the comment on the board. She didn't feel like she had let down Nicky because of her mistake. So i'm afraid Nicky will be let down by her in long time. I hope i'm proved wrong though. Because it is not fair on Nicky.
Nicky has got potential,but i'm afraid he hasn't got a good teacher
I am surprised she put in a lift
Many people tweeted her to advise her that Craig would penalise her and she left it in regardless! I dont think Craig was harsh at all - she broke the rules and as a pro she should know the rules!
Many people tweeted her to advise her that Craig would penalise her and she left it in regardless! I dont think Craig was harsh at all - she broke the rules and as a pro she should know the rules!
Bit too soon to tell surely?
The lift thing was completely staged- she knew it would be penalised and Craig's OTT reaction suggested it was all in the name of drama and agreed in advance.
The lift thing was completely staged- she knew it would be penalised and Craig's OTT reaction suggested it was all in the name of drama and agreed in advance.
Originally Posted by anirose26:
“AShe didn't feel like she had let down Nicky because of her mistake. So i'm afraid Nicky will be let down by her in long time. I hope i'm proved wrong though. Because it is not fair on Nicky.”
“AShe didn't feel like she had let down Nicky because of her mistake. So i'm afraid Nicky will be let down by her in long time. I hope i'm proved wrong though. Because it is not fair on Nicky.”
How do you know her inner most thoughts on Nicky and SCD. Do you know her personally?
Just interested to find out how you came to this conclusion?
Originally Posted by katie_p:
“Bit too soon to tell surely?
The lift thing was completely staged- she knew it would be penalised and Craig's OTT reaction suggested it was all in the name of drama and agreed in advance.”
“Bit too soon to tell surely?
The lift thing was completely staged- she knew it would be penalised and Craig's OTT reaction suggested it was all in the name of drama and agreed in advance.”
My thoughts exactly katie. I am a little surprised that Karen is getting so much criticism and being accused of all kinds of things when she's only just got here - and not even had a chance to settle in.
Why is that? I thought SC D fans were kinder than that
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“How do you know her inner most thoughts on Nicky and SCD. Do you know her personally?
Just interested to find out how you came to this conclusion?”
“How do you know her inner most thoughts on Nicky and SCD. Do you know her personally?
Just interested to find out how you came to this conclusion?”
No sorry,i don't have the power to go into their hearts to know their feelings,i can just guess it from the way they act like others do. My guess could be wrong or may be right. And i said,i hope to be proved wrong.
Originally Posted by katie_p:
“Bit too soon to tell surely?
The lift thing was completely staged- she knew it would be penalised and Craig's OTT reaction suggested it was all in the name of drama and agreed in advance.”
“Bit too soon to tell surely?
The lift thing was completely staged- she knew it would be penalised and Craig's OTT reaction suggested it was all in the name of drama and agreed in advance.”
If it was staged,fine. But i don't think it is fair on Nicky. I hope it is staged anyhow.
Originally Posted by anirose26:
“Even though Craig was little bit harsh about lift in their dance,he is right. But she didn't seem to be taken the comment on the board. She didn't feel like she had let down Nicky because of her mistake.”
“Even though Craig was little bit harsh about lift in their dance,he is right. But she didn't seem to be taken the comment on the board. She didn't feel like she had let down Nicky because of her mistake.”
Surely the whole thing was part of a script ('new pro dancer doesn't know the rules, Craig lays down the law', yadah, yadah :yawn
..... I suppose she could have faked her shock and surprise a bit better 
.I think you should give her a break - we have no idea at this point if she's a good teacher or not. Perhaps Nicky's not a very good student
(though there's no reason to think that either!)
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“My thoughts exactly katie. I am a little surprised that Karen is getting so much criticism and being accused of all kinds of things when she's only just got here - and not even had a chance to settle in.
Why is that? I thought SC D fans were kinder than that”
“My thoughts exactly katie. I am a little surprised that Karen is getting so much criticism and being accused of all kinds of things when she's only just got here - and not even had a chance to settle in.
Why is that? I thought SC D fans were kinder than that
”
You need to calm down. I don't normally criticize just for the sake of it. I usually give them a chance. I just got a feeling that she may not a good teacher after watching their training video and after seeing her not bothered about reduced marks.
The lift could all have been staged fine. But, they had 3 weeks to work on the performance and there was very little content after the opening sequence. It just leaves you wondering how much actual dance training went on in the workshop. I have to say I found the "he came to training in shorts" joke wore a bit thin as well. Training is about learning not what you look like.
I am really looking forward to seeing them next week I am sure it will be a lot better
I am really looking forward to seeing them next week I am sure it will be a lot better
Originally Posted by Sue_Howarth:
“The lift could all have been staged fine. But, they had 3 weeks to work on the performance and there was very little content after the opening sequence. It just leaves you wondering how much actual dance training went on in the workshop. I have to say I found the "he came to training in shorts" joke wore a bit thin as well. Training is about learning not what you look like.
I am really looking forward to seeing them next week I am sure it will be a lot better”
“The lift could all have been staged fine. But, they had 3 weeks to work on the performance and there was very little content after the opening sequence. It just leaves you wondering how much actual dance training went on in the workshop. I have to say I found the "he came to training in shorts" joke wore a bit thin as well. Training is about learning not what you look like.
I am really looking forward to seeing them next week I am sure it will be a lot better”
Perhaps the rest of their training was so intense and focused that 'joke' was the only part the producers decided to show us
. Karen isn't in charge of the editing. Just give them both a chance, for crying out loud!
Originally Posted by Sue_Howarth:
“The lift could all have been staged fine. But, they had 3 weeks to work on the performance and there was very little content after the opening sequence. It just leaves you wondering how much actual dance training went on in the workshop. I have to say I found the "he came to training in shorts" joke wore a bit thin as well. Training is about learning not what you look like.
I am really looking forward to seeing them next week I am sure it will be a lot better”
“The lift could all have been staged fine. But, they had 3 weeks to work on the performance and there was very little content after the opening sequence. It just leaves you wondering how much actual dance training went on in the workshop. I have to say I found the "he came to training in shorts" joke wore a bit thin as well. Training is about learning not what you look like.
I am really looking forward to seeing them next week I am sure it will be a lot better”
I agree with you esp about shorts jokes. I'm not very articulate,but i will just say,from their training video,it seemed like Nicky is trying to learn,but she is not trying to teach as she should be. But as i said earlier,i hope my gut feelings are proved wrong and they perform well.
I think if the training was very intense and focused they would have produced more dancing. All we have to go on is 1.5 minuites of performance, that is what we are expected to judge and vote on from next week. If you watch it after the lift there is very little dancing. I repeat, I am looking forward to seeing them next week they still come over as a strong team capable of a top placing
Originally Posted by Sue_Howarth:
“I think if the training was very intense and focused they would have produced more dancing. All we have to go on is 1.5 minuites of performance, that is what we are expected to judge and vote on from next week. If you watch it after the lift there is very little dancing. I repeat, I am looking forward to seeing them next week they still come over as a strong team capable of a top placing”
“I think if the training was very intense and focused they would have produced more dancing. All we have to go on is 1.5 minuites of performance, that is what we are expected to judge and vote on from next week. If you watch it after the lift there is very little dancing. I repeat, I am looking forward to seeing them next week they still come over as a strong team capable of a top placing”
The point is, we have no idea from the clip we saw. Perhaps she taught Nicky all the steps he was capable of learning - we don't know. But I do think it's all a bit early to write Karen off.
I know it's early days but honestly think Kristina should have been paired with Nicky , Natalie with Colin and Karen with Michael . Obviously none of this matters now
Now I just feel I have seen 13 celeb dances and Ihave some idea what each can do. Nicvky I have no idea yet
I think putting the lift in their first dance was quite silly, he wasn't going to be good enough for the dance to be memorable, so the lift stood out like a sore thumb. But I have no clue what kind of teacher she will be like, at all.
