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Ed what has happened to Carl?
Scorpio2
10-10-2012
He used to be the nicest King brother and now he is more evil than Matthew. What has happened?
sarahj1986
10-10-2012
Do you think? I've always thought he was abit nasty. Jimmy is dopey and Matthew was more ruthless.
cobwebsoup
10-10-2012
I don't know. In the old days, Jimmy and Matthew were pretty evil and Carl was really nice. Nowadays Carl is more like Matthew and Jimmy's turned into the nice guy.
Hound of Love
10-10-2012
Originally Posted by sarahj1986:
“Do you think? I've always thought he was abit nasty. Jimmy is dopey and Matthew was more ruthless.”

This!

Plus the fact that he murdered his own dad, and covered up Paul Marsden's death (with Jimmy and Matthew's help)

He would still get it though
cobwebsoup
10-10-2012
He always had a bit of a dark side, but even when he helped cover up Paul's death, he wasn't evil and nasty like he is these days. After Paul fell and died, Carl was throwing up, crying, terrified and was in bits for weeks afterwards. The Carl on Emmerdale nowadays probably wouldn't even care. He's turned into Matthew.
jimthepig
10-10-2012
Jimmy's changed the most he used to be really vile and ignorant and now he's Mr nice guy.
sarahj1986
10-10-2012
Originally Posted by Hound of Love:
“This!

Plus the fact that he murdered his own dad, and covered up Paul Marsden's death (with Jimmy and Matthew's help)

He would still get it though”

I forget he is responsible for Paul's death aswell as his dads!
Sick Bullet
10-10-2012
I remember when they first arrived and Carl was like Billy is to Phil and Grant, now Jimmy is a big dopey softy and Carl is the nasty one it's been like this a long while.
cobwebsoup
10-10-2012
Originally Posted by jimthepig:
“Jimmy's changed the most he used to be really vile and ignorant and now he's Mr nice guy.”

That's true, Jimmy has changed dramatically. He's always been a bit dopey, but he used to be quite a nasty villain.
Lennie
10-10-2012
Jimmy has found a woman he loves and a family, i would think love would change a man lol
Noush
14-10-2012
Just can't stand it when that twit jimmy calls nicola.... neeeeeeeeeeco. Fool.
RickWhite
14-10-2012
He's a mass
Murderer
Drifter
14-10-2012
It's more the fact he's suddenly become an absolute c*nt overnight in order to move this whole Chas storyline forward. Kicking Nicola and Jimmy out, really? It's laughable. But for once in Emmerdale this year it's been totally watchable, so I'll forgive it.
pheobe
14-10-2012
Originally Posted by Drifter:
“It's more the fact he's suddenly become an absolute c*nt overnight in order to move this whole Chas storyline forward. Kicking Nicola and Jimmy out, really? It's laughable. But for once in Emmerdale this year it's been totally watchable, so I'll forgive it.”


Its totally watchable atm because Tom Lister is absolutely amazing , if he is the one whos leaving ,Emmerdale have a huge gap to fill in my opinion
Drifter
14-10-2012
He is pretty brilliant at it, to be fair, credibility of the sudden change aside. And him and Chas together are electric. The whole thing is ludicrous but it's suddenly made Emmerdale great to watch again
Butters Bread
14-10-2012
Wasnt there a turning point for him when he declared he was untouchable and could get away with anything?

He is a damaged bod thanks to the old man and that development has continued sick fixaction on Chas
Pyramidbread
14-10-2012
Carl did used to be a nice guy, but when he killed his dad, it messed with his head, and he decided that there would be no more Mr. Nice guy after Matthew had Grace killed.
Pyramidbread
14-10-2012
Originally Posted by Butters Bread:
“Wasnt there a turning point for him when he declared he was untouchable and could get away with anything?”

Just after Grace died
Littlegreen42
14-10-2012
I think Chas having an affair with Cameron has tipped him over the edge, in his mind Chas getting with Dan was just her way of delaying reuniting with him. Chucking Cameron in the mix has genuinely hurt/shocked him.
wuffles
14-10-2012
Originally Posted by Pyramidbread:
“Just after Grace died”

I think you're right. Seeing Grace die in front of him seemed to make him flip completely.
SteveOwen
14-10-2012
Originally Posted by jimthepig:
“Jimmy's changed the most he used to be really vile and ignorant and now he's Mr nice guy.”

Yes, hard to recomcile the current version of Jimmy with the one that attempted to rape Sadie, isn't it?

Carl hasn't been a "nice guy" for years though. His nastiness has been ramped up lately but it's hardly an overnight change.
Oldnjaded
14-10-2012
Originally Posted by Pyramidbread:
“Carl did used to be a nice guy, but when he killed his dad, it messed with his head, and he decided that there would be no more Mr. Nice guy after Matthew had Grace killed.”

Spot on.

Personally I don't care how 'evil' the writers try and make Carl, just for the sake of their storyline, I love him anyway and I think he's playing these (scarcely believable) scenes brilliantly.
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