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Old 10-10-2012, 23:05
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Any ideas, not heard any mention of them going to 4G like the other big 4 O2 voda EE etc ??
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:07
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They will use 4G 1800MHz which they bought from EE round about September 2013. They may also bid for 800Mhz and 2.6GHz.
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:07
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if they do, will they have to change their name to 4?
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:07
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when they own some spectrum.

so either sept 2013 when they get the 1800 from EE they have purchased, or spring 2013 if they win sub 1ghz in the upcoming auction
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:10
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So will they share Network with EE then ?
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:12
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So will they share Network with EE then ?
They will own their own spectrum on 1800MHz independent from EE.
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:14
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So my iPhone wont get 4G till next year then
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:17
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So my iPhone wont get 4G till next year then
Assuming you are on 3 with an iPhone 5 you wont get 4G on 1800Mhz until September 2013.

The iPhone 5 is not compatible with 4G on 800MHz (LTE Band 20) or 4G on 2.6GHZ (LTE Band 7) which the UK will use.
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:26
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Sorry so the iPhone 5 won't work in Uk on 4G on any network
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:28
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Sorry so the iPhone 5 won't work in Uk on 4G on any network
It will work on 1800MHz LTE networks.
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:29
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And who apart from 3 use that 1800mhz
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:33
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EE launch 4G in 1800 later this month in a few cities

All the networks have the chance to bid for 800 and 2600 spectrum in the upcoming auctions that will mean those 4G networks going live in the spring of 2013

3 will have 1800 spectrum in sept 2013 which they may or may not use for 4G

the iphone currenty works on 850, 1800 and 2100

personally i would expect to see a revision to the iphone in the spring of 2013 or the likes of Voda and O2 will look to push 3G to 900 and libralise their 2100 for 4G along with any 800 they buy
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:35
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And who apart from 3 use that 1800mhz
All the UK networks have 1800MHz spectrum.

3 were the only network without, but they have purchased the 1800 spectrum that EE were told to sell as part of the Orange / T-Mobile merger deal.

O2 and Vodafone don't have much 1800 spectrum though; only a 5.8MHz pair each.
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:36
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but only EE have enough of 1800 spectrum to use for 4G, and 3 have none currently until they get theres from EE next september
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:41
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EE launch 4G in 1800 later this month in a few cities

All the networks have the chance to bid for 800 and 2600 spectrum in the upcoming auctions that will mean those 4G networks going live in the spring of 2013

3 will have 1800 spectrum in sept 2013 which they may or may not use for 4G

the iphone currenty works on 850, 1800 and 2100

personally i would expect to see a revision to the iphone in the spring of 2013 or the likes of Voda and O2 will look to push 3G to 900 and libralise their 2100 for 4G along with any 800 they buy
Apple tend not to do revisions of iPhones only exceptions have been CDMA versions or ones aimed at the Chinese market. Band 20 and Band 7 support is unlikely to appear until the 5S hits the streets in September 2013.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:43
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i dotn recall them ever being in this position before, sure if O2, Voda or both went offering funds they'd soon release a new revision for the UK with the right antenna
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:47
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i dotn recall them ever being in this position before, sure if O2, Voda or both went offering funds they'd soon release a new revision for the UK with the right antenna
The UK market is tiny compared to the chinese market.

Also tiny compared to the US verison market.
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:47
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i dotn recall them ever being in this position before, sure if O2, Voda or both went offering funds they'd soon release a new revision for the UK with the right antenna
The iPhone 5S will be out in September 2013 and O2 and Vodafone wont have 4G on 800Mhz or 2.6GHz until June 2013 at the earliest and will only cover cities that already have great 3G coverage anyway.

Therefore there is little point in Apple doing a revision just for the sake of 3 Months.
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Old 10-10-2012, 23:49
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The iPhone 5S will be out in September 2013 and O2 and Vodafone wont have 4G on 800Mhz or 2.6GHz until June 2013 at the earliest and will only cover cities that already have great 3G coverage anyway.

Therefore there is little point in Apple doing a revision just for the sake of 3 Months.
thought it was said the other networks will go live end of march
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Old 11-10-2012, 00:08
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thought it was said the other networks will go live end of march
The 4G clearance (when DTT multiplexes are moved away from the part of 800MHz to be occupied by 4G LTE on band 20):

Glasgow and Edinburgh April 2013.

Oxford, Waltham London, Birmingham, Coventry, Leicester, Nottingham and Sheffield - May 2013.

So any time on or after these dates. June is a good rule of thumb but no specific dates have been allocated yet.

http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2012/10/02...for-consumers/
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:37
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I have read the following news ..."The introduction of 4G to the UK in October 2012...... Three has licensed existing spectrum from other providers in order to rollout 4G phones on 3."

http://www.store-3.co.uk/3-mobile-4g-network.html
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:44
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I have read the following news ..."The introduction of 4G to the UK in October 2012...... Three has licensed existing spectrum from other providers in order to rollout 4G phones on 3."

http://www.store-3.co.uk/3-mobile-4g-network.html
That spectrum is the 1800 they have acquired from EE, that is not available to 3 until sept2013
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:10
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if they do, will they have to change their name to 4?
Years ago when I first joined Three, some of the literature which came with the phone stated that they would still be called Three even when 4G technology becomes available.
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