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Old 11-10-2012, 16:09
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Syed is such a wet blanket, throughout the whole time he's been in the show he has shown about as much charisma as a damp cloth! It's no surprise that he doesn't appear to have any friends but it is a surprise that someone like Christian who is quite an upbeat lively character would find much in common with Syed... That's what I think anyway. :sleep:

I wonder what Syed does for fun other than whinge!? Any ideas?

Does anyone disagree?
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Old 11-10-2012, 17:19
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Yes, Syed has very little about him apart from his boyish good looks I guess....which is all what Christian must see in him and presumably his new fellow admirer, the financial advisor guy. He's always ducking and diving awkward issues that come his way, seeming to take it out on others in the form of his on going mood swings. I suppose that's just his personality through and through though. :sleep:

Meanwhile some of the most recent and unfortunate events (re Michael doing the dirty on him with his pulling out of the cleaning merchandise deal) have seen him try to avoid falling on his own sword so far, so his current unease and tiptoeing round the truth is to try and save his own skin, which is understandable. Also it must be a nightmare being gay and born into a religion that condemns such things.
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Old 11-10-2012, 17:35
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Syed used to have a sesne of humour and could be flirty when he arrived in 2009 - his scenes with Parveen were one example and early scenes with Janine, his mother and Tamwar as well - so those aspects of him must still be there, they're just hidden away because it suits the storylines that he's had in recent years - EE is Britain's most miserable soap after all.

And you're doing Christian a dis-service if you believe he only loves Syed because of his looks. If anyone only knew Christian from 2011, they'd think he was an insecure drama queen who was possessive of his partner.
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Old 11-10-2012, 17:42
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adleast he's now finally doing somthing

I think Syed is a good person really, when all said and done he obviously loves his family and christian, he just does really really stupid things:sleep:
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Old 11-10-2012, 17:50
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I agree completely with the OP . A really unlikeable character , whose deceitful ways knows no bounds . A liar and a cheat ! I look foward to his exit .
Don't get me wrong though the actor himself is quite capable , its just his character who has taken a nosedive
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Old 11-10-2012, 18:33
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Syed used to have a sesne of humour and could be flirty when he arrived in 2009 - his scenes with Parveen were one example and early scenes with Janine, his mother and Tamwar as well - so those aspects of him must still be there, they're just hidden away because it suits the storylines that he's had in recent years - EE is Britain's most miserable soap after all.

And you're doing Christian a dis-service if you believe he only loves Syed because of his looks. If anyone only knew Christian from 2011, they'd think he was an insecure drama queen who was possessive of his partner.
I completely forgot about his scenes with Parveen!! Must have literally been the only laugh he's had in the last 3 years!! Eastenders just haven't shown what he does in his day to day life, he doesn't drink, he doesn't seem into music, he doesn't do keep fit... he doesn't have any fun by the looks of it! He's just so BORING!!!

I can't think of anything him and Christian have in common other than being gay! Can anyone think of anything at all they have in common!? Have they even done anything in Eastenders apart from look sad and mope around? I can understand why they would both be sad about the family not accepting them but there's been long periods since all that where the family have accepted and been happy for them and also before the money problems and at all times Syed has shown the same mood of his character whether rain or shine.

He's just a whinger through and through I guess! And a selfish deceitful rat at that!
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Old 11-10-2012, 18:36
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I've got to add that Zainab's behavior with Christian now is so unrealistic! Where the hell did it come from!?

She's not that nice to her family or friends let alone someone she's just getting her head around and accepting into the family!
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Old 11-10-2012, 18:51
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I don't think Syed is a bad person but at present he's not the most likable. I think there are a number of underlying reasons why he doesn't air his concerns to his family but no, there is no excuse for his actions. I just hope next week we get some insight into his motives because thats whats currently lacking. He's always had greatest potential with Masood from his family and it's this relationship that's lacking most. I really hope EE get some great scenes between the pair. I really want them to get mad at each other and in the process air things that have been brewing between them for some time now, but both fail to discuss.

I also think reason why Syed, and Christian over the past two years, have not been well recieved is because of a sheer lack of screentime. When you hardly see them, people forget and when they are seen thier stories are plot-driven which in process develops a lack of empathy from the viewers. Im really not surprised to see Syed come under criticism given the content. It's terrible.

I do enjoy both characters though and I am fan of thier partnership. Yes they are opposites - which is exactly why I think they work so well together.
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Old 11-10-2012, 19:14
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I don't think Syed is a bad person but at present he's not the most likable. I think there are a number of underlying reasons why he doesn't air his concerns to his family but no, there is no excuse for his actions. I just hope next week we get some insight into his motives because thats whats currently lacking. He's always had greatest potential with Masood from his family and it's this relationship that's lacking most. I really hope EE get some great scenes between the pair. I really want them to get mad at each other and in the process air things that have been brewing between them for some time now, but both fail to discuss.

I also think reason why Syed, and Christian over the past two years, have not been well recieved is because of a sheer lack of screentime. When you hardly see them, people forget and when they are seen thier stories are plot-driven which in process develops a lack of empathy from the viewers. Im really not surprised to see Syed come under criticism given the content. It's terrible.

I do enjoy both characters though and I am fan of thier partnership. Yes they are opposites - which is exactly why I think they work so well together.
I see your point yes. And I do agree opposites work but there is opposites and OPPOSITES to the point where there is no common ground. Couples have to enjoy / or do some things together don't they!? Max and Tanya enjoy/do going for a drink, out to dinner, rowing and falling out, Phil and Shirley enjoyed talking to eachother like sh*t and getting p*ssed, Ian and Jane worked together and you could see they got on well (half the time), Janine and Michael enjoying lording it over people and been generally unpleasent, etc etc.

What of anything to Syed and Christian have in common?

No one has answered that yet....
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Old 11-10-2012, 19:18
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What of anything to Syed and Christian have in common?
They love each other - which is the most important thing to have in common in any relationship.

Yes the likes of Max and Tanya and Phil and Shirely have other interests in common which may help but fundementally thier relationships are destructive.

In the case of Christian and Syed as we saw last week they do both enoy a night in together, watching a movie.

I think they both have seperate lives and interests but in the end they come home to each other.

I understand that this won't be the case on Friday though.
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Old 11-10-2012, 19:34
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They love each other - which is the most important thing to have in common in any relationship.

Yes the likes of Max and Tanya and Phil and Shirely have other interests in common which may help but fundementally thier relationships are destructive.

In the case of Christian and Syed as we saw last week they do both enoy a night in together, watching a movie.

I think they both have seperate lives and interests but in the end they come home to each other.

I understand that this won't be the case on Friday though.
Syed didn't even enjoy the movie!!!

I know his mind was on other things but the way the portray Syed and Christian together just never seems coupley to me. Can't even see them as friends let alone a couple!
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Old 11-10-2012, 20:02
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actually forget everything else how nasty was he not to hug Christian back tonight, he's never done that before
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Old 11-10-2012, 20:08
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Syed was a sap tonight.

Wow.
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Old 11-10-2012, 20:17
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Syed didn't even enjoy the movie!!!

I know his mind was on other things but the way the portray Syed and Christian together just never seems coupley to me. Can't even see them as friends let alone a couple!
Syed and Christian are indeed the most unconvincing couple which explains why they disappeared into the background after the 'forbidden love' storyline.
Once they got together, the thrill of romance evaporated and we are now left with a parody of a relationship.
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Old 11-10-2012, 20:19
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They do seem to fall out every other week.

I agree completely with the OP . A really unlikeable character , whose deceitful ways knows no bounds . A liar and a cheat ! I look foward to his exit .
Don't get me wrong though the actor himself is quite capable , its just his character who has taken a nosedive
This.

I found some sympathy when he was hiding his sexuality and felt compelled to marry Amira. The scenes with Zainab on his wedding day were really good and showed how Syed was struggling with what was happening.

But stealing from Tamwar, no amount of 'he's desperate' 'he doesn't want his family to think badly of him' covers it. The two things are leagues apart and cannot even be compared. This is Syed being a shit pure and simple. He is not being forced into deceiving his own family.
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Old 11-10-2012, 20:27
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They do seem to fall out every other week.

This.

I found some sympathy when he was hiding his sexuality and felt compelled to marry Amira. The scenes with Zainab on his wedding day were really good and showed how Syed was struggling with what was happening.

But stealing from Tamwar, no amount of 'he's desperate' 'he doesn't want his family to think badly of him' covers it. The two things are leagues apart and cannot even be compared. This is Syed being a shit pure and simple. He is not being forced into deceiving his own family.
Hey, if Max can find it in his heart to forgive Tanya for trying to kill him.... To forgive Lauren for trying to kill him...

BK loved plot-driven tripe but without any real character motivation. It's why Kat started having an affair for reasons we don't really understand. We knew those reasons many years ago, like we knew Syed's reasons for marrying Amira.
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Old 11-10-2012, 21:23
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Complete and utter whiny wet blanket.

I just don't buy the two of them as a couple. All the chemistry seems to have evaporated.
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Old 11-10-2012, 21:27
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They do seem to fall out every other week.
How? They're only on screen every other month!
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Old 11-10-2012, 21:37
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How? They're only on screen every other month!
Quite.

We saw them about 4 times between April and June and they were 'loved up' each time they appeared. But in order to make things as dramatic as possible before their wedding next Tuesday, Syed's being made to completely shut down from his family - maybe he's doing it on purpose for some reason. His eyes did light up over Christian at one point but then he pulled away again.
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Old 11-10-2012, 21:39
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Hey, if Max can find it in his heart to forgive Tanya for trying to kill him.... To forgive Lauren for trying to kill him...

BK loved plot-driven tripe but without any real character motivation. It's why Kat started having an affair for reasons we don't really understand. We knew those reasons many years ago, like we knew Syed's reasons for marrying Amira.
There's a lot of really good opinions in this thread, and as fan of Syed and Chryed in general I'm just getting annoyed by this story. But it's not until I saw the BiB that I realised why, and it's also why I'm generally hating this year of EE. There's been no proper stories. There's been the potential for brilliant stories but it all seems to fall flat at the last second; there's been some absolute gems of episodes; there's been some brilliant scenes and some very convincing performances from actors I honestly didn't think had it in them (Ben's actor surprised me a lot: he really pulled it out of the bag; and it's nice to see that I was right about how good Danielle Harold would be if she was just given something to do) but overall every thing's been slow and plodding with no real reason for any of the audience to give a shit about the characters.
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Old 11-10-2012, 21:49
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adleast he's now finally doing somthing

I think Syed is a good person really, when all said and done he obviously loves his family and christian, he just does really really stupid things:sleep:
Let's be clear about this. He is NOT a good person.

He is also a scruffy git who needs a haircut
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Old 11-10-2012, 21:58
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This is EE remember, no one stays the same.

Remember when Minty came into it? Hard man, had cash, was Phil's muscle when he needed it? In the end he was pathetically drippy.

This time next year Phat Boi will be a member of mensa and Derek will be Ian's lapdog.

p.s

He is also a scruffy git who needs a haircut
lmao.
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Old 11-10-2012, 22:34
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Let's be clear about this. He is NOT a good person.

He is also a scruffy git who needs a haircut
well thats me told
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Old 12-10-2012, 16:41
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Let's be clear about this. He is NOT a good person.

He is also a scruffy git who needs a haircut
I haven't watched last nights Eastenders yet, but did he even bother to trim his scruffy barnet for the wedding? You'd think someone would drop a subtle hint that he needs a bloody hair cut!
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Old 12-10-2012, 17:21
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I haven't watched last nights Eastenders yet, but did he even bother to trim his scruffy barnet for the wedding? You'd think someone would drop a subtle hint that he needs a bloody hair cut!
Trim???

He needs a proper haircut like Christian
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