So true, especially the BIB. I liked Phil in the 90s. Him and Grant were a great, legendary double act. But now he's just become stale and just plain vile, I can't stand him anymore. He needs to die with Derek . Last time Phil had a genuinely good storyline was when Kate turned out to be a undercover copper sent by Marsden, who was trying to get Phil banged up for Lisa's disappearence. The recent stalker plot could've been a great storyline to refresh Phil's character but they ruined it as the writers so frequently tend to do nowadays.

And once again Phil is stealing members of Billy's family to fill that lonely void in his life and cover up the cracks in his life. First Jay, now Lexi. And the writers keep doing it in order to justify Philth's continued existence as you said. Billy has become nothing more than a feeder character to Phil. Couldn't agree more though, techgirl.

True. It's all been pretty much unrealistic, from beginning to end.

She won't have any hold over him. If she starts up when she gets back about going to the police phil will call her bluff.

If she did go to the police after all this time she would be getting herself into trouble as well. It's not going to wash with phil anymore.

This.

The one thing Shirley could do is tell the rest of the square about Phil covering up Heather's murder which would turn everyone against him but I can't see Phil being bothered about that.

Shes back for revenge and i think she will cos of what else i want to happen but i wont go into that

She better be back for revenge otherwise if she doesnt make his life hell people will just continue calling her a doormatt for letting him get away with it.

But shirley was close with lola so i think she will do whatever she can to help her get lexi back

If phil knew she wasnt gonna say anything he didnt need to send her away

What could her revenge possibly be? The only thing she can do is drop Phil in it but then she would be implicating herself for keeping quiet about it too.

She is only a doormat if she gets back with Phil after everything. Staying with him after Glenda made her a doormat as did staying with him after the truth about Heather's murder came out, now that she has left him she is no longer his doormat.

I want to see her move on with her life that is the best way she could get one over on Phil.

Unless you think she is going to help Lola win Lexi back as revenge. But if Phil gets full-time residency of Lexi and stops Lola from seeing her then EE really have lost the plot, no one in their right mind would give Phil custody of a gerbil.

People still call her a doormatt cos she hasnt told the police. I think she could free herself if she got proof another way.

If phil stops lola from seeing lexi shirley will put up a fight and i think in the end if shirl doesnt then sharon will persuade him. Theres no way they would have it like lola will never get lexi back if phil has her.

There's no proof of Phil's involvement in covering up Heather's murder unless Jay or Ben backs Shirley up.

I think Shirley relates to why Phil kept quiet about Ben and that's why she has not reported him.

If she has nothing to do with Phil anymore then she is not being a doormat for keeping quiet, it just means she has moved on with her life.

I think shirley could get her proof from phil talking about it. I agree but other people dont see it that way,

But i think she is coming back for revenge hence the phil and sharon fake engagement i think she comes back mid november and the bbc hint at it

I don't think Phil will stop Lola from seeing Lexi, he needs her to do the day to day care of Lexi, when has Phil ever actually done any childcare himself? Lisa, Peggy, Stella, Kate and also Shirley were all part of his life in order that they provide a free childcare service for him!

I think what he will do is have Lola move in, and keep her under control by using Lexi as a threat, and freeze Billy out - same storyline just different mother/substitute mother/child :yawn:

Probably after, i think phil was more hands on with louise and more recently denny. I think hed like to be hands on with lexi and help bring her up especially with loosing ben.

not really, there was never a time when it was just Phil and Louise, he had either moved his mother in, tolerated Lisa or drafted in Kate as a substitute mother, and he has barely had a conversation with Denny, Jack has had more involvement with Denny than Phil has. Children to him are just another possession or status symbol, not little people in their own right!

Yes but phil always helped with louise and was a lot nicer with her. Yes but thats down to sharon

Imo phil was happy with kate so she wasnt there just to be a mother, it was the added bonus but i thought phil was a lot nicer with kate and treated her well

How did he help? did we ever see him take her to school? make her a meal? or any of the other ordinary things that we see other parents such as Max/Tanya/Ian/Jane etc do? it was always Peggy or someone else in that role, Phil has shown very little interest in Denny except when he suggested that Sharon and Denny move in to stop Phil feeling lonely

Phil couldn't manage a baby..nappies , feeds, sleepless nights. He'd be feeding it left over vindaloo and putting vodka in it's bottle.

I think he helped in certain ways he was a better dad to louise than he was with ben. I think its cos she was a girl.

Phil wanted to spend time with denny a couple of weeks ago but sharon stopped it cos he was teaching him to lie.

He didn't really send her away did he? He called Carley because he was concerned about her. I'm pretty sure she told Phil she'd be back anyway.

She may have her revenge but she's not going to go around threatening to go to the police.

He wanted to give carly money to send her away. It was quite a lot for someone who wasnt supposed to be scared

No i hope not, it needs to be smarter than that

Well he knows that Carley and her don't get along, a lot of bad feeling. Perhaps he thought that by offering her money it would encourage her to take shirley in and they could do some bonding.

I don't really think he wanted shirley to continue on her drunken path and didn't like seeing herself go into self destruct mode, and he more than likely remembered how she helped him.

Carly and shirley had already made up but he still wanted to give them the money. Yeah that was part of the reason but the other part was cos he was worried she would say something. He kept telling her not to say anything and only called carly after she threatened him again

Philth will start by renaming the baby Phillipa.

With his bottomless pockets he will hire a professional nanny, not someone like Whitney.

Lola will be allowed a ten minute visit once a month, but will not be allowed to approach Phillipa is she is being walked.

Loool @ Phillipa

I wouldn't put it past Philth to rename Lexi .