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Old 12-02-2013, 13:23
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I wouldn't say Andrew Lincoln is brilliant. I think he's good in some areas (generally being a badass leader) and not so good in others (remember when he found out Lori was dead?). In fact, during the first season I didn't think he was the right guy at all, but he settled into the role.

He's not the best actor in the show, but he's certainly nowhere near as bad as Shane was... Of course, it's all opinions.
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Old 12-02-2013, 14:53
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I was a little bit disappointed with the latest episode mainly because I don't really like the idea of this season being about Rick's battle with a mental illness, I was enjoying the ep very much until the last 2 minutes. I just don't think this season needs that storyline angle.

I want to see them back on the road with newcomers (hopefully that other group).

I'm not really enjoying the Maggie/Glenn segments, I just don't feel any chemistry. Daryl & Maggie would of been great imo.I havn't read the comics so it's something I am hoping will happen in the future.
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Old 12-02-2013, 15:12
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I was a little bit disappointed with the latest episode mainly because I don't really like the idea of this season being about Rick's battle with a mental illness, I was enjoying the ep very much until the last 2 minutes. I just don't think this season needs that storyline angle.

I want to see them back on the road with newcomers (hopefully that other group).

I'm not really enjoying the Maggie/Glenn segments, I just don't feel any chemistry. Daryl & Maggie would of been great imo.I havn't read the comics so it's something I am hoping will happen in the future.
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Old 12-02-2013, 15:51
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He's not dealing with mental illness, he's having a breakdown because everything is finally getting to him. It's surprising it has happened sooner considering how much he has on his plate in a world where everyone he loved, minus his son, are dead.
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Old 12-02-2013, 17:24
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Great new episode... Looking at next weeks trailer i'm worried that Glenn is going to take over Tyreese' prison story.

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I think you're onto something here...It's too early for Tyreese to get the chop after all.

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Anyway, I enjoyed the last episode. It seems like The Walking Dead has learned how to progress their characters without being dull and tedious...*cough* Season 2 *cough*.
It really gave the old, classic characters of the show (in particular, Rick, Glenn, Carol and the Dixon Brothers) a chance to shine. Quite liked the Hershel and Beth scenes- they were two characters quite ignored in the first half of the season. I also like the look of Tyreese- I hope he's in the show for a while and doesn't suffer the same fate as in the comics. Michonne is annoying me at the moment though...talk for Christ Sake! Stop scowling! No idea what Andrea is still doing in Woodbury also.

I've been thinking about who's going to survive this season because the show is clearly building up to a dramatic, bloody finale. My death predictions are:

Warning: Comic Book spoilers below

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Old 12-02-2013, 17:54
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I watched the new episode last night and absolutely loved it. So good to have the show back! I re-watched the last two episodes before watching the new one and I'm glad I did because there were little bits and pieces of things that I had forgotten.

I'm sad that Daryl has left the group but I can understand why he did it. He must have felt so much guilt for how Merle got disconnected from them in the first place. Not that I'm saying he should have, it was nothing to do with him, he wasn't even there... but Merle's his brother and he lost him a zombie apocalypse! To even find him alive must have been amazing for Daryl, it would have been too much to expect him to leave him behind again.

That being said, I don't blame Rick, Glenn, Maggie etc for not wanting Merle to come with him. That's also completely understandable. I love pissed off Glenn, I get his anger that Rick and Maggie went back for Daryl and caused a whole lot of trouble doing so... only for Daryl to up and leave them. I'd be pissed too! I hope Glenn and Maggie manage to make up although I am glad that we got to see them struggling a bit with what happened to them. Sometimes too much action cuts out scenes like this and I think they're needed.

I hope Tyrese (sp?) and the lady with him get to stay with the group, not too fussed about the other two. It's horrible that they wanted to kill Carol and Carl despite the fact that they had been nothing but nice to them... the nicest of anyone they'd met according to Tyrese. Hopefully Rick will see sense soon although I get why he's flaking out a bit at the moment, poor guy has just lost his wife, has a newborn to take care of and has everyone looking to him for answers. I sort of wish that Carol and Hershall would just decide they're taking over for a bit and invite the new people in, let Rick have a break from decision making for a bit... how well that would go down though I'm not sure.

Anyway, sorry for rambling a bit... love this show! Can't wait for the next episode!
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Old 12-02-2013, 17:54
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Thanks for spoiling the comic bit. Shame you couldn't do it about Tyreese in the other bit of your post.
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Old 12-02-2013, 18:13
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Thanks for spoiling the comic bit. Shame you couldn't do it about Tyreese in the other bit of your post.
I didn't view that as a spoiler at all, rather a mere personal opinion that it's too soon for him to go. I agree, he's received a decent amount of airtime, I can't see him going yet. That's based on nothing but my opinion.
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Old 12-02-2013, 18:22
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Haha, just watched the episode again. Did anyone catch the bit when Daryl refers to Michonne as "The Last Samurai"?
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Old 12-02-2013, 18:43
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Haha, just watched the episode again. Did anyone catch the bit when Daryl refers to Michonne as "The Last Samurai"?
That was a hilarious line in the middle of a very serious conversation... hope Daryl isn't gone for long!
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Old 12-02-2013, 19:07
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That was a hilarious line in the middle of a very serious conversation... hope Daryl isn't gone for long!
Agreed. Hopefully, he'll be back in no time. I can see why the writers decided to take Daryl and Merle off on their own as it will give them the chance to have Tyrese and his gang form a partnership with Ricky and eventually gain his trust. Meanwhile, Daryl and Merle will be able to bond all over again as brothers and catch up on each other's lives, eventually returning to the prison at some point with a new status quo and hierarchy in place. Though, I have a feeling Merle won't be here come the end of the season (no spoilers, just me speculating).
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Old 12-02-2013, 20:19
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Agreed. Hopefully, he'll be back in no time. I can see why the writers decided to take Daryl and Merle off on their own as it will give them the chance to have Tyrese and his gang form a partnership with Ricky and eventually gain his trust. Meanwhile, Daryl and Merle will be able to bond all over again as brothers and catch up on each other's lives, eventually returning to the prison at some point with a new status quo and hierarchy in place. Though, I have a feeling Merle won't be here come the end of the season (no spoilers, just me speculating).
I agree with pretty much everything you've just said there although I'm not sure about Merle going to the prison, I don't see how he can ever integrate with Rick's group again tbh. I agree that I don't think he'll live past the season though - no spoilers here either. It's a shame in a way because I like the character of Merle, or like to hate him even, I think he brings something to the show.
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Old 13-02-2013, 00:26
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You can't "spoil" anything by referring to the comicbooks. It has been made quite clear that they are not but loosely plot-related. Even though the show includes many of the characters from the comics, they are demonstrably not following the same narrative.

Hell, I haven't read the comicbooks at all; and so I while making my last comment about what a dick Rick showed himself to be with regards to this new character, Tyreese, I had no special regard for Tyreese outside of him seeming to be a decent guy who stuck his hand out expecting a simple handshake... But now, having just watched a few episodes of "Talking Dead", I know that Tyreese, is apparently a character in the comicbooks of some significance. But that does not necessarily translate to the TV show. So says the creator of the comics and others involved as well... it doesn't mean he won't become a major character either. There is no direct correlation and there is no expectation.
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Old 13-02-2013, 00:48
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Merle doesn't help himself does he

Good episode I thought. A bit 'busy' but then it had a lot to say.

The Merle v Daryl was over pretty quickly - too quickly I think. Good ol' Rick to the rescue - but why not cut the serpents head off? I can understand why Glenn was pissed.

And loving Pissed Glenn - as long as it doesn't last too long and he & Maggie make up soon. I like Glen, but I like Maggie better.

Liking Andrea - she might be a sucker for a pretty face (Well, I think David Morrisey is pretty) but if she believed in herself she'd be a leader without equal.

Rick - aww bless. I know people are pissed off at him and I can understand but he is under so much pressure - feeling so much responsibility. He made it clear - he can't be responsible for any one else's death. He feels responsible for EVERY death under his leadership - Sophia, Dale, Jim, T-dog (I loved T-dog!!!), Oscar - not to mention Shane and Lori. With the pressure of an admittedly kick ass kid and a helpless infant. Keeping everyone else safe - without his right hand man Daryl.

I can kinda understand the looney tunes. Hope Hershal finds some Haldol soon
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Old 13-02-2013, 01:40
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You can't "spoil" anything by referring to the comicbooks. It has been made quite clear that they are not but loosely plot-related. Even though the show includes many of the characters from the comics, they are demonstrably not following the same narrative.

Hell, I haven't read the comicbooks at all; and so I while making my last comment about what a dick Rick showed himself to be with regards to this new character, Tyreese, I had no special regard for Tyreese outside of him seeming to be a decent guy who stuck his hand out expecting a simple handshake... But now, having just watched a few episodes of "Talking Dead", I know that Tyreese, is apparently a character in the comicbooks of some significance. But that does not necessarily translate to the TV show. So says the creator of the comics and others involved as well... it doesn't mean he won't become a major character either. There is no direct correlation and there is no expectation.
Yeah, well I try to keep comic-book spoilers to the minimum, but so many things have happened that are different to the Books now, and there are a fair few characters that are different, it seems pointless. Yet there are a few plots that are spot on, so just do the comic book spoilers thing, it's not hard to do. Though as has been said Daryl and Merle aren't in the books, and many of the others have evolved in a different way. I've tried to just read the comics lightly behind the series, so I'm as worried about being spoilered about the comics as the series.

It may come to a state (like in Shameless US, ShamelessUK) where the two become too divergent that it doesn't matter. Don't think that's the case at the mo, and now I've stopped reading them until they get out of the prison. Just spoiler it, if in doubt ffs.

Yet I think when I found out the governor had the zombie kid, I got ahead of the plot and that annoyed me.

anyway Talking dead is an hour long now ,I really enjoy it, it's brilliant, but hardwick annoys me a little bit talking about the governor, because he's half-right about him being a more sympathetic character in that you can see much of the town following him, and Andrea being seduced, which you couldn't see with the comic-book character. Yet there's never really been a doubt about the psychopathic nature of him after he killed the reservists surely? Don't really see how that fell under reasonable defence of his realm.

Actually interesting too, how being the alpha-male in this show isn't actually great, Shane, Rick, the governor, all go mad, is this a theme?
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Old 13-02-2013, 06:33
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Yeah, well I try to keep comic-book spoilers to the minimum... so just do the comic book spoilers thing, it's not hard to do... I've stopped reading them until they get out of the prison... Just spoiler it, if in doubt ffs... which you couldn't see with the comic-book character.
Yeah, well, ffs, just do it then?

You just rattled off a whole slew of "spoilers" there while avowing and avering your revelation re:the comicbooks!


Actually interesting too, how being the alpha-male in this show isn't actually great, Shane, Rick, the governor, all go mad, is this a theme?
I hope that the theme will clear up and underline what is an important point about all of this: there is strength and progressiveness in numbers, cooperation, trust, democracy and humanity. The only problem is the "leaders" even if they seem to understand some of this (as with Rick and his initial embrace of most of those principles...) must NOT become enamored of themselves and throw out or sacrifice any of them.

Rick ****ed up when he let some of the horrible things arising from the horrible situation darken him to the point where he decided he must become a dictator and then compound that with the (almost inevitable) isolation that soon there follows.

Alpha-malehood has never been "great".
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Old 13-02-2013, 06:50
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The thing is though, a fair few things have happened like in the comics, so when discussing the comic it should be in spoiler tags unless it has happened in the show.
Shane getting killed, Lori dying, the barn incident, the Governer's zombie daughter, just some of the things that have happened in both.
So don't think that just because some things are different that everything will be. It's unfair to talk about the comic in a thread about the show that is based off of it, no matter how minor or major it is in the comic. Have some decency and common sense.
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Old 13-02-2013, 08:07
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So don't think that just because some things are different that everything will be.
Right... so then... as I said (and so said the guy who is responsible for all of this, the guy who wrote the comicbooks) nothing that happens in the comicbooks can be counted on to happen or not to happen in the TV series.

This very clearly and simply goes to prove that what happens in the comicbooks are not spoilers to the show at all. There is no way of knowing just what will or will not correspond. Get it?

Use your head and stop being such a silly prig. Have some of that, eh?
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Old 13-02-2013, 09:32
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Except that the tv series is based on the comics, so anything from the comics can happen in the show. Everything that is in the comics that hasn't happened in the show can be treated as a potential spoiler.
There can be an incident from the comic that happened before Hershel's farm that they may suddenly decide to use in season 5.

Hell, in Game Of Thrones people were saying that season 1 had things from Book 2 and season 2 had things from Book 1.

So until the series has run it's course, you should treat everything from the comic as spoiler, whether it seems likely to happen or not. Mentioning things from the comic that hasn't been shown on the show is just inconsiderate and makes you look like a pathetic douche.

Have you read the comics yourself?
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Old 13-02-2013, 13:53
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I agree with pretty much everything you've just said there although I'm not sure about Merle going to the prison, I don't see how he can ever integrate with Rick's group again tbh. I agree that I don't think he'll live past the season though - no spoilers here either. It's a shame in a way because I like the character of Merle, or like to hate him even, I think he brings something to the show.
Yep, I agree about Merle - it would be a bit ridiculous if he did manage to get back into Rick's group, but I don't see where else he could go if not the prison? Additionally, I don't see Daryl agreeing to return to the prison if it means Merle is left out in the cold - he'd want Merle and himself to be together in the prison. I also don't see Merle returning to Woodbury any time soon lol. So there are not many options out there for him . I suppose one possibility could be that Merle gets killed by The Governor's men while he and Daryl are on their travels, meaning Daryl returns to the prison on his own.

Yes, I like Merle too, he's a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine . I know I'm suppose to hate him and his redneck attitude to life, but I can't help but grin whenever he opens his mouth . He's just a crazy, fun character and adds some much needed humour to the show.
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Old 13-02-2013, 14:22
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Yeah, well, ffs, just do it then?

You just rattled off a whole slew of "spoilers" there while avowing and avering your revelation re:the comicbooks!




I hope that the theme will clear up and underline what is an important point about all of this: there is strength and progressiveness in numbers, cooperation, trust, democracy and humanity. The only problem is the "leaders" even if they seem to understand some of this (as with Rick and his initial embrace of most of those principles...) must NOT become enamored of themselves and throw out or sacrifice any of them.

Rick ****ed up when he let some of the horrible things arising from the horrible situation darken him to the point where he decided he must become a dictator and then compound that with the (almost inevitable) isolation that soon there follows.

Alpha-malehood has never been "great".
Not sure I did really as everything I said would have already happened. We know the Governor had the zombie kid in all worlds now.

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Old 14-02-2013, 00:28
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Yep, I agree about Merle - it would be a bit ridiculous if he did manage to get back into Rick's group, but I don't see where else he could go if not the prison? Additionally, I don't see Daryl agreeing to return to the prison if it means Merle is left out in the cold - he'd want Merle and himself to be together in the prison. I also don't see Merle returning to Woodbury any time soon lol. So there are not many options out there for him . I suppose one possibility could be that Merle gets killed by The Governor's men while he and Daryl are on their travels, meaning Daryl returns to the prison on his own.

Yes, I like Merle too, he's a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine . I know I'm suppose to hate him and his redneck attitude to life, but I can't help but grin whenever he opens his mouth . He's just a crazy, fun character and adds some much needed humour to the show.
You're right, I'm not sure where else Merle would go at all. Maybe Merle and Daryl arrive at the prison (not sure why) around the same time as the Governor and the Woodbury attack and Merle shows his loyalty to Daryl etc by siding with them? I don't think it'd make much difference in the long run, they still wouldn't want Merle with them though. Not sure what'll happen but I'm looking forward to finding out!

I know what you mean about Merle, I love that the character is in the show and the actor does a really good job with him but he really is a disgusting person!

As for the whole spoiler thing... I don't see what the big deal is putting things from the comics in spoilers. Sure, the tv show isn't following them religiously but things do overlap so isn't it better to put things in spoiler tags just in case?
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Old 14-02-2013, 08:21
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I agree that I don't think he'll live past the season though - no spoilers here either. It's a shame in a way because I like the character of Merle, or like to hate him even, I think he brings something to the show.
There's no reason for him to be killed off.

Look at Prison Breaks T-Bag... Absolute scum but everyone loved his character and he stayed... Although he was a little stale by the end of it.
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Old 14-02-2013, 12:48
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As for the whole spoiler thing... I don't see what the big deal is putting things from the comics in spoilers. Sure, the tv show isn't following them religiously but things do overlap so isn't it better to put things in spoiler tags just in case?
My take is that a lot of people watching the series might fancy taking up the comics at a future date
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Old 14-02-2013, 13:24
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There's no reason for him to be killed off.

Look at Prison Breaks T-Bag... Absolute scum but everyone loved his character and he stayed... Although he was a little stale by the end of it.
He is pretty similar to T-Bag now that you've mentioned it! Don't get me wrong, I don't want Merle to be killed off but I just think it looks likely for the simple reason that I don't see what they can do with him now. Daryl will (hopefully) return to Rick and the group but I can't see them changing their mind about accepting Merle so what else can happen to him? I hope I'm wrong though, Merle is an interesting character so I'd like for him to stick around a bit longer.

My take is that a lot of people watching the series might fancy taking up the comics at a future date
Yeah, that's true. I haven't read the comics so couldn't spoil anyone even if I wanted to but I'd rather all mention of the comics is put in spoiler tags just in case!
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