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Old 20-03-2013, 20:08
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Old 20-03-2013, 20:14
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AWWWWW , you guys .... please don't stop.
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Old 20-03-2013, 21:53
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AWWWWW , you guys .... please don't stop.
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Old 21-03-2013, 00:23
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Well that escalated quickly.
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Old 21-03-2013, 00:36
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Anyone notice the zombies just aren`t scary any more?

I`m watching the opening episode of series two on RTE right now, and i had forgotten what a scary zombie looked like.

You half expect them to yawn when they come across a zombie in the present series.
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Old 21-03-2013, 03:50
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Anyone notice the zombies just aren`t scary any more?

I`m watching the opening episode of series two on RTE right now, and i had forgotten what a scary zombie looked like.

You half expect them to yawn when they come across a zombie in the present series.
Well, the zombies are that slow, you would probably have enough time to yawn before you kill one .
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Old 21-03-2013, 07:55
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Just for the record, I liked the episode. I was happy to see that Andrea finally redeemed herself. I was so happy that she made it to the prison, only to be caught...gutted. I'm not sure why she didn't try to take the truck or disable it in some way, but hey that's a minor complaint.

Very pleased with Milton. I would like to see him free Andrea and they escape to the prison together. That would be awesome, but this is TWD so no happy endings, right

The one thing I got from The Talking Dead this week, was I get the feeling that Laurie Holden must spend some time reading forums or at least internet comments about her character. It seemed to me that she was defending Andrea and that she had some hurt feelings. Maybe I'm mistaken, but that's how it came across to me.

Very excited for next week episode
Great comments. I follow Laurie Holden on Twitter (Andrea) and just a simple search for the walking dead conjures up many negative things about Andrea on the show. So I don't think Laurie has had to look far to find the negative opinions on the character she portrays. I like how she is very defensive about all the characters, not just her own and it shows me how heavily invested the actor is in their craft. I'm a bit of a fan of Andrea's though, always have been, so I try to see things from her perspective, instead of just being negative like a lot of people seem to be these days.
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Old 21-03-2013, 20:58
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Great comments. I follow Laurie Holden on Twitter (Andrea) and just a simple search for the walking dead conjures up many negative things about Andrea on the show. So I don't think Laurie has had to look far to find the negative opinions on the character she portrays. I like how she is very defensive about all the characters, not just her own and it shows me how heavily invested the actor is in their craft. I'm a bit of a fan of Andrea's though, always have been, so I try to see things from her perspective, instead of just being negative like a lot of people seem to be these days.
Thank you

I'm sure twitter is full of unfriendly comments (to put it lightly) about Andrea. Hopefully this has changed with the latest episode.

BIB: I agree.


One last thing I meant to out in my previous post, does anybody else think the chains that the Governor has were the same chains that Michonne had on her zombies? They looked the same to me
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Old 22-03-2013, 10:27
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Again - not the entire show Just the bits in the warehouse.
I never said you fastforwarded the whole show. I said I couldn't believe people did it at all on first viewing. How would you know what you were missing, particularly with dialogue? Did you know precisely when those scenes ended in order to safely watch the next bit from the start or were you continually having to backtrack? I think the day that I start skipping bits on first viewing of a show I watch is the day I reevaluate whether to watch it at all.
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Old 22-03-2013, 12:46
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I never said you fastforwarded the whole show. I said I couldn't believe people did it at all on first viewing. How would you know what you were missing, particularly with dialogue? Did you know precisely when those scenes ended in order to safely watch the next bit from the start or were you continually having to backtrack? I think the day that I start skipping bits on first viewing of a show I watch is the day I reevaluate whether to watch it at all.
Why don't you fill me in - was there any important dialogue in the warehouse when they were either in different rooms or Andrea was hiding from the Governor?
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Old 22-03-2013, 14:35
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Why don't you fill me in - was there any important dialogue in the warehouse when they were either in different rooms or Andrea was hiding from the Governor?
Andrea admitted she caused the initial outbreak. You missed it!

Perhaps with your gift you could let me know in advance which scenes aren't important next week?

Seriously though, if you're skipping bits, is it time to give up?
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Old 22-03-2013, 14:45
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Andrea admitted she caused the initial outbreak. You missed it!

Perhaps with your gift you could let me know in advance which scenes aren't important next week?

Seriously though, if you're skipping bits, is it time to give up?
Lol

I FF'd about 2 - 3 minutes out of how many minutes of programming over 3 seasons? I said how much I normally enjoy TWD, including the much maligned season 2 and how much I enjoyed the rest of the episode yet you think I should stop watching? Really - if one act in one episode of a much enjoyed series doesn't measure up to its normal; high standard you stop watching it? Thankfully my standards aren't quite so exacting - as long as it normally entertains me I'll forgive a blip.
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Old 22-03-2013, 15:39
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Lol

I FF'd about 2 - 3 minutes out of how many minutes of programming over 3 seasons? I said how much I normally enjoy TWD, including the much maligned season 2 and how much I enjoyed the rest of the episode yet you think I should stop watching? Really - if one act in one episode of a much enjoyed series doesn't measure up to its normal; high standard you stop watching it? Thankfully my standards aren't quite so exacting - as long as it normally entertains me I'll forgive a blip.
Goodness no, there are many scenes I question or don't enjoy. Glenn and Maggie's gratuitous sex scene the other week seemed utterly pointless, to name but one. My point is I'm not psychic enough to know in advance that I should skip it!
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Old 22-03-2013, 16:35
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I only ever fast forward the show when that blonde lass starts singing
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Old 22-03-2013, 16:49
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I only ever fast forward the show when that blonde lass starts singing
Can't disagree there.

I'm sure that in the event of an apocalypse, with few means of entertainment, it'd take place. I'd probably appreciate hearing it. But I don't want to see/hear it in a tv show in much the same way I don't want to see 10 minutes of them boiling water or other mundanities.
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Old 22-03-2013, 21:05
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In the comics "that blond lass" is actually a cyborg. Hershell created her (after concocting the virus) and what she sings is very important as it is a lyrical cypher as to what is to be done. I don't know if that is the same narrative line they are following for the TV show, but I would caution youse all to listen very carefully to what she sings.











Nope. I'm still making it up. Haven't read a page yet.
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Old 22-03-2013, 21:14
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I only ever fast forward the show when that blonde lass starts singing
Haha, me too . Someone tell her it's not American Idol!
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Old 22-03-2013, 21:16
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Old 22-03-2013, 21:41
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In the comics "that blond lass" is actually a cyborg. Hershell created her (after concocting the virus) and what she sings is very important as it is a lyrical cypher as to what is to be done. I don't know if that is the same narrative line they are following for the TV show, but I would caution youse all to listen very carefully to what she sings.











Nope. I'm still making it up. Haven't read a page yet.
You should write your own spinoff fanfiction.
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Old 22-03-2013, 21:51
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You should write your own spinoff fanfiction.
Eh... I'm too damned lazy and I'd just end up floundering after a while.
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Old 22-03-2013, 22:24
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In the comics "that blond lass" is actually a cyborg. Hershell created her (after concocting the virus) and what she sings is very important as it is a lyrical cypher as to what is to be done. I don't know if that is the same narrative line they are following for the TV show, but I would caution youse all to listen very carefully to what she sings.









Nope. I'm still making it up. Haven't read a page yet.
And this is why we can't fastforward through scenes! :P
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Old 23-03-2013, 13:38
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I'm at UK pace. I think there are two days a week when I can safely post in this thread.

Aw, I hope it wasn't Milton who burned the walkers at the pits. Seems I'm the only one who thinks otherwise. I think it'd be a fantastic twist if it wasn't him, as they made it a bit too obvious that the Gov thought it was him.
My first thought was that it was Tyreese' buddy, and that he did it to frame Tyreese. He had motive, and given that Tyreese had spoken against the walker pit it was an obvious ploy. Especially as burning the zombies didn't seem to achieve much - it doesn't kill them, and even if they can't be used more can be collected. There's no shortage of zombies. So I was surprised when attention shifted to Milton.

Now I'm not sure what to believe. I suppose Tyreese' buddy wouldn't have access to petrol so it must be Milton. However, I still don't think Milton achieved much by it; I hoped for better from him.

What freaked me out the most was the fact that the Gov knew everywhere Andrea was. Does he have an Andrea radar or something? LOL
Really? He knew where she was going. She was on foot, so took a direct route. It took him a few traverses to find her the first time. Then her next few moves were obvious and he saw her go into the building. Inside the building he located her by sound - I think he broke the glass so he could hear her feet scrunching as she moved. When he failed to capture her there, he just went to the prison and waited for her to turn up.

No, I fast forwarded JUST THE BITS IN THE WAREHOUSE because I knew they'd be fine, not that I really care about them, so there was no suspense for me making it a bit dull.
I didn't expect either to die. On the other hand, I didn't know if Andrea would get captured. We now know she did get captured before reaching the prison, but later in the episode. I don't see how you could know she wouldn't be captured in the building.

Regardless, I thought it was a pretty tense and well-made sequence. One problem with the show is that the Governor isn't scary enough, and the sequence helped to correct that.

Yes. Come to think of it, Andrea's "development" is a very good example of stringing things out and also slap-dashing things. Her character isn't as uber-central as Rick so we don't know her quite as well; and her character isn't as single-minded as Rick either -- she has been conflicted before; but she is a perfect example of this utterly unconvincing back-and-forth dramanonsense that has been at play.
For me she's been on a consistent arc for the whole season. When she arrived in Woodbury she thought it was great and just what she and Michonne had been looking for. She could see that Michonne disagreed, to the point of leaving, but Michonne couldn't explain why. Then they get attacked and Andrea starts to realise the depth of Michonne's antagonism, and also starts to see that she might have reason. The anomalies start to add up, she gradually suspects she's being lied to or given the run-around, so she goes to the prison to get another viewpoint.

That's when she first comes to know the Governor is bad. However, she still thinks Woodbury is good. She's now working to prevent Rick's group and the people of Woodbury from killing each other. First she tries to murder the Governor in his sleep, but can't go through with it. Then she sets up the meeting, but is excluded from it. When she finds out what the Governor proposed, she was appalled, and when Milton also told her that he was going to slaughter Rick's group even if they did give up Michonne, she knew she had to warn them (and save Michonne, and hopefully repair their friendship because she now knows Michonne was right).

It's logical and consistent and straight-forward. I'll grant it was slow, but it wasn't back-and-forth.
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Old 23-03-2013, 16:07
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I'm at UK pace. I think there are two days a week when I can safely post in this thread.

My first thought was that it was Tyreese' buddy, and that he did it to frame Tyreese. He had motive, and given that Tyreese had spoken against the walker pit it was an obvious ploy. Especially as burning the zombies didn't seem to achieve much - it doesn't kill them, and even if they can't be used more can be collected. There's no shortage of zombies. So I was surprised when attention shifted to Milton.

Now I'm not sure what to believe. I suppose Tyreese' buddy wouldn't have access to petrol so it must be Milton. However, I still don't think Milton achieved much by it; I hoped for better from him.

Really? He knew where she was going. She was on foot, so took a direct route. It took him a few traverses to find her the first time. Then her next few moves were obvious and he saw her go into the building. Inside the building he located her by sound - I think he broke the glass so he could hear her feet scrunching as she moved. When he failed to capture her there, he just went to the prison and waited for her to turn up.

I didn't expect either to die. On the other hand, I didn't know if Andrea would get captured. We now know she did get captured before reaching the prison, but later in the episode. I don't see how you could know she wouldn't be captured in the building.

Regardless, I thought it was a pretty tense and well-made sequence. One problem with the show is that the Governor isn't scary enough, and the sequence helped to correct that.

For me she's been on a consistent arc for the whole season. When she arrived in Woodbury she thought it was great and just what she and Michonne had been looking for. She could see that Michonne disagreed, to the point of leaving, but Michonne couldn't explain why. Then they get attacked and Andrea starts to realise the depth of Michonne's antagonism, and also starts to see that she might have reason. The anomalies start to add up, she gradually suspects she's being lied to or given the run-around, so she goes to the prison to get another viewpoint.

That's when she first comes to know the Governor is bad. However, she still thinks Woodbury is good. She's now working to prevent Rick's group and the people of Woodbury from killing each other. First she tries to murder the Governor in his sleep, but can't go through with it. Then she sets up the meeting, but is excluded from it. When she finds out what the Governor proposed, she was appalled, and when Milton also told her that he was going to slaughter Rick's group even if they did give up Michonne, she knew she had to warn them (and save Michonne, and hopefully repair their friendship because she now knows Michonne was right).

It's logical and consistent and straight-forward. I'll grant it was slow, but it wasn't back-and-forth.
i agree. her decisions have always seemed quite sensible to me - in that she didn't know the whole picture, unlike the viewer.

when michonne left the prison it wasn't go anywhere safe, it was to go back wandering round like they had been doing. and all on michonne's gut. she WAS right ha, but i don't think i would have wanted to leave the relative safety/warmth etc of woodbury for more walking round the woods...
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Old 24-03-2013, 03:10
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Well, the zombies are that slow, you would probably have enough time to yawn before you kill one .
I've been wondering if they'll evolve into the 28 weeks Later type of flesh eater.
That'd keep us all on our toes
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Old 24-03-2013, 04:22
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I've been wondering if they'll evolve into the 28 weeks Later type of flesh eater.
That'd keep us all on our toes
Yes, Usain Bolt Zombies as I call them . Certainly would keep Rick's crew on their toes. Imagine trying to outrun a zombie who can run as fast as Usain Bolt?

I've been wondering about the zombies evolving on the show as well. It would be a good way to keep things fresh if they went in that direction. But I don't think they will as I assume the comic used the same George Romero Zombies throughout the whole series. My understanding is, Robert Kirkman isn't much of a fan of the Usain Bolt Zombies seen in "28 Days Later" and the "Dawn of the Dead" remake.
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