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Old 18-10-2012, 00:13
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Okay we all know SB shoud not ever have killed off Carl King, or for that matter aired most of the stuff he's come up with for the past 18 months But if a new producer wanted to 'right' the show again by undoing the past year and a half of garbage, which would mean Carl wouldn't be dead (no Maurel, Spencer's or Robbie either!), would you be prepared to suspend belief over it? It obvs wouldn't be realistic, but wouldn't it be so worth it to get the Emmerdale we know and love back?
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Old 18-10-2012, 00:19
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No. In my opinion, Emmerdale has to move on. All bad guys get their comeuppance eventually and as much as I loved Carl (eye candy FTW!), I felt that it was long over due for him and I felt his character had ran its course. I feel that the exit was very fitting for him - this is the biggest stage Emmerdale has ever had. I feel it was the right time for Carl.

And I'd prefer they'd just kill Maurel off

I also actually like Robbie He's cute...
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Old 18-10-2012, 00:24
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How could erasing 18 months of storylines possibly be a good thing for the show's credibility? How would they explain the fact that characters who've since left, like John, were no longer there now? And would they have to show the Christmas episodes in July?

I'm not sure you've thought this one through.
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Old 18-10-2012, 00:35
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I think Emmerdale will move on from here now with some very good storylines.. it has started to become more interesting and although I loved Carl in the show and i do think he will really be missed, it could be the start of getting Emmerdale back on track. And i definatly think they deserve to be at least nominationed for many awards after tonight ep as it was very well acted, especially by Tom Lister and Lucy Pargater (Carl and Chaz)...
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Old 18-10-2012, 00:39
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Well Viv could of knocked herself out during that fire and been in a coma. She finally wakes up and realises she's had the most terrible dream of the village whilst she's been out of it, but when she gets out of hospital, she goes back to Emmerdale and everything is just how it was when she was last there. It would not matter a bit in continuity this way as everything that's happened has only happened in Viv's mind, so any members that don't want to return don't have to, but those that do could do fairly easily. For instance, she's dreamt Carl being killed, but when she wakes she sees him in the village quite alright. She's imagined Laurel and Marlon getting together (the mind plays funny tricks on you!), but in reality Laurel and Ashley are totally happy, he's not bern hitting Sandy or turned into a tramp. Megan, Robbie, the Spencer's dont exist in reality. Personally I think this would be a good, plausible way to repair the damage done the past year or so.
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Old 18-10-2012, 01:32
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Well Viv could of knocked herself out during that fire and been in a coma. She finally wakes up and realises she's had the most terrible dream of the village whilst she's been out of it, but when she gets out of hospital, she goes back to Emmerdale and everything is just how it was when she was last there. It would not matter a bit in continuity this way as everything that's happened has only happened in Viv's mind, so any members that don't want to return don't have to, but those that do could do fairly easily. For instance, she's dreamt Carl being killed, but when she wakes she sees him in the village quite alright. She's imagined Laurel and Marlon getting together (the mind plays funny tricks on you!), but in reality Laurel and Ashley are totally happy, he's not bern hitting Sandy or turned into a tramp. Megan, Robbie, the Spencer's dont exist in reality. Personally I think this would be a good, plausible way to repair the damage done the past year or so.
I don't think the shower scene went down very well in Dallas and I don't think this would either. It breaks the viewer's trust - what's the point of dedicating time to watching something which may just be scrapped on a whim resulting in a complete rewrite?
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Old 18-10-2012, 07:22
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Okay we all know SB shoud not ever have killed off Carl King, or for that matter aired most of the stuff he's come up with for the past 18 months But if a new producer wanted to 'right' the show again by undoing the past year and a half of garbage, which would mean Carl wouldn't be dead (no Maurel, Spencer's or Robbie either!), would you be prepared to suspend belief over it? It obvs wouldn't be realistic, but wouldn't it be so worth it to get the Emmerdale we know and love back?
sorry but thats a stupid question.

how can the last several months be erased?

tom lister wanted to leave, perminantly, sb didnt sacrifice him, it was his choice. so why not kill him off in a whodunnit?

all soaps evolve and change, go through 'good' and 'bad' times when storylines and writing are crap/great.

ive been watching since 82, 30 years, so just which version of emmerdale do you refer to as 'the one we know and love'?
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Old 18-10-2012, 07:24
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i would though like to see a reversal of 'miserydale' sb has depressed every character, there should be some happier characters/storylines alongside the trauma, plus the humour!
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Old 18-10-2012, 07:27
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sorry but thats a stupid question.

how can the last several months be erased?

tom lister wanted to leave, perminantly, sb didnt sacrifice him, it was his choice. so why not kill him off in a whodunnit?

all soaps evolve and change, go through 'good' and 'bad' times when storylines and writing are crap/great.

ive been watching since 82, 30 years, so just which version of emmerdale do you refer to as 'the one we know and love'?

Tom Lister did not want to leave, he was written out, his exit interview confirms as much
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Old 18-10-2012, 07:28
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Tom Lister did not want to leave, he was written out, his exit interview confirms as much
really? if true then i stand corrected
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Old 18-10-2012, 07:29
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They need to go back and erase the disastrous story lines / new characters of the last 2 yrs...
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Old 18-10-2012, 07:37
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Well they were clearly saving it all up to cram into the big one. There's no doubt he took a risk and should have used at least some of last night's action to shake up a flagging storyline of past months. However, luckily fans remained loyal and they definitely redeemed themselves and we were rewarded with an almost flawless, edgy live episode. Plus, I got the impression from the cast's interviews that last night's action has paved the way for more gripping storylines.
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Old 18-10-2012, 07:42
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Well they were clearly saving it all up to cram into the big one. There's no doubt he took a risk and should have used at least some of last night's action to shake up a flagging storyline of past months. However, luckily fans remained loyal and they definitely redeemed themselves and we were rewarded with an almost flawless, edgy live episode. Plus, I got the impression from the cast's interviews that last night's action has paved the way for more gripping storylines.
Yes after we endure the wrongful arrest of jimmy. Just hope they don't drag that out too long. Looking forward to nasty Cain making a come back though. Most underused character IMO.
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Old 18-10-2012, 08:05
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Tom Lister did not want to leave, he was written out, his exit interview confirms as much
bless him he looked genuinely choked up in the after interview. sad to see him go as he is lovely to look at but I think it is the right decision regarding storylines & development
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Old 18-10-2012, 08:18
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bless him he looked genuinely choked up in the after interview. sad to see him go as he is lovely to look at but I think it is the right decision regarding storylines & development
What is this? When was this screened?
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Old 18-10-2012, 08:18
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bless him he looked genuinely choked up in the after interview. sad to see him go as he is lovely to look at but I think it is the right decision regarding storylines & development
I disagree

If he had to leave that was too rushed- no time to see the impact of his confession on Chas, plus Carl would never have attacked her

It was dramatic and the immediate aftermath will probably be good but there was a lot more that could have been done with the character
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Old 18-10-2012, 08:53
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Carl was one of the last interesting characters. He was great because he never took crap from anyone and wouldn't go down without a fight. He was arrogant and unapologitic but he had redeeming features which were his love for Chas AND for Jimmy and Angel. He was a villain that I couldn't hate. Carl also had a great sense of humour.

Stuart Blackburn is a like a dog peeing all over ED to mark his territory and the stench is now unbearable. He's trashed a decade of characterisation and show history.
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Old 18-10-2012, 09:38
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What is this? When was this screened?
Aww, did you miss it Val? It was on ITV2 at 8pm, straight after the live. Interviews with the cast etc. It was really good. You can probably see it on ITV Player.
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Old 18-10-2012, 10:35
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They need to go back and erase the disastrous story lines / new characters of the last 2 yrs...
Yes that's exactly what I meant with my question.
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Old 18-10-2012, 10:37
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No. In my opinion, Emmerdale has to move on. All bad guys get their comeuppance eventually and as much as I loved Carl (eye candy FTW!), I felt that it was long over due for him and I felt his character had ran its course. I feel that the exit was very fitting for him - this is the biggest stage Emmerdale has ever had. I feel it was the right time for Carl.

And I'd prefer they'd just kill Maurel off

I also actually like Robbie He's cute...
they`ll be a conga line as long as the M62
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Old 20-10-2012, 15:14
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Better yet, we could run the popular "it turns out the bodysnatchers have been running rife in Emmerdale for the past 18 months" storyline, defeat the aliens - restore Ashley, Laurel, and the rest of the "personality transplant" crew to their normal selves and breathe a sigh of relief.
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Old 20-10-2012, 15:24
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Okay we all know SB shoud not ever have killed off Carl King, or for that matter aired most of the stuff he's come up with for the past 18 months But if a new producer wanted to 'right' the show again by undoing the past year and a half of garbage, which would mean Carl wouldn't be dead (no Maurel, Spencer's or Robbie either!), would you be prepared to suspend belief over it? It obvs wouldn't be realistic, but wouldn't it be so worth it to get the Emmerdale we know and love back?
You can never rewind time in a soap it's like a "soap ultimate law," only broken by one other soap, Dallas.

Dallas never really recovered in my opinion.

The only possible way to bring Carl King back is to imply that he was not dead, only placed into witness protection and the police had reason to make his family believe he was dead and even that is wildly risking credibility. I doubt that Tom Lister would risk his reputation to be honest.

John lived falling off a building in Corrie though, nothing quite as far fetched as that.
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Old 20-10-2012, 16:09
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Dallas never really recovered in my opinion.

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i think you are right, bringing back bobby was daft, the storylines after that were never as good as the jr shooting-bobbys death era.
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Old 20-10-2012, 16:20
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No, how could you explain that his brother and sister in law identified his body, not to mention Adam and Victoria finding him.

This isn't Hollyoaks, no one should come back from the dead. The only one which could be possible is Viv, but even that is pushing it.
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Old 20-10-2012, 17:27
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Like the idea of using the 1986 Dallas shower scenario to bring back Carl! He was such a tremendous character. Such a shame to lose him.
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