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Old 18-10-2012, 20:10
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I simply don't believe Syed would do that. What a come down after Tuesday.
That was EE pushing us off a cliff. I just don't buy what I'm seeing. He committed himself to Christian. Syed's quite a traditional person so he must know that the vows means something and that he has to try and make the marriage work. Not walk out. I know its been said that he tends to run away but I don't think he would walk away so easily after commiting himself to christian.

It's like when Christian started to put a baby before Syed, kicked him out etc. I'm not comparing the two acts, but it's the OOC nature of it that I detest. That killed a bit of C for me, and this has done the same for Syed. I don't buy it for either of them, but there's only so much you can block out and rationalise.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:10
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I was ok with that..........nasty, hard to watch.

Zainab was VILE to Tamwar!! Important, I hope.

Syed was a coward, he did run. No doubt about that.

I kind of hate that EE have done this to him, but IF they explore, tomorrow, the whole family dynamic as we've seen in the other preview clips, I can't get too worked up over it now.

Definitely too much 'saint Christian' going on though. But then, last year for me he was so awful, so argghgh I don't know. It's not meant to be a score sheet, I know. But last year he had his moments that for me that were almost beyond repair.....so - I can sit with it. As they say. I sit with it and see what comes out in the wash.

I wait....and I wait.....

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Old 18-10-2012, 20:11
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How do they get from here to going on honeymoon in the space of a couple of hours? I know EE is meant to stretch the realms of believability but this might be taking it a bit too far.
They're going to have such a FANTASTIC time.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:11
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Yeah, but Christian was righteously angry at Syed at the time. Christian's done nothing to Syed except love, trust and support him.
I said I wasn't comparing the acts. It's how EE have had the characters act in way I've never accepted as true to them. When I'm this invested it devastating.

Everyone interprets what they see differently. I never thought C would act like he did on BF based on what I'd watched for 2 years. Ditto Syed's actions tonight. I do not believe he would run after his wedding, leaving Tam and his family to face it, and then running away leaving his hubby and kid behind. I just don't. Maybe that will mean some posters think I'm a blinkered Syed-fan, but that's how I see it.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:11
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It's like when Christian started to put a baby before Syed, kicked him out etc. I'm not comparing the two acts, but it's the OOC nature of it that I detest. That killed a bit of C for me, and this has done the same for Syed. I don't buy it for either of them, but there's only so much you can block out and rationalise.
Yes totally. Didn't believe in that, don't believe in this either. OK, I know Syed has done this before, fine, but not with Christian and Yasmin in the picture. It doesn't square with anything we've seen about his attitude to his daughter. And after we had such great subtle exploration of his doubts/fears about the wedding yesterday, suddenly we're back to 'Syed's a useless coward'. Bah.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:12
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Well that was....painful.
Syed Wasn't he always going to come back though? He wanted to wait until the 'dust had settled' - only he didn't leave at all, he came back to face the music.
Christian alone in the flat

How annoying were Fatboy and Denise though :sleep: I was just like, 'Go back to Chryed! Go back to the Masoods!;
I think tomorrow will be the most important ep. And, of course, it's the ep I'm missing
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:14
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Yes totally. Didn't believe in that, don't believe in this either. OK, I know Syed has done this before, fine, but not with Christian and Yasmin in the picture. It doesn't square with anything we've seen about his attitude to his daughter. And after we had such great subtle exploration of his doubts/fears about the wedding yesterday, suddenly we're back to 'Syed's a useless coward'. Bah.
You can tell the writers aren't on the same page and often don't see the previous eps scripts. It makes your head spin.

I couldn't defend C's actions, I can't defend Syed's now. I can explain them to a certain extent, but I have zero desire to. It's demoralising BS.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:14
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It felt same old to me. Ran away after the reveal, Dad furious with mum for lying, he comes back and tries to 'fix it'.

Run away, come back, Dad furious for Mum lying (for Syed, again) he slopes back and tries to fix it.

Goodness, he was awful tonight. I wanted him to bloody get on the train.
No, you're right, he has come back before. But each time he runs he seems to come back quicker than the previous time, so I do believe he is changing. Slowly. But his gut reaction is still to do a runner.

I guess my main point is I don't think it's out of character for him to bolt. Wrong and horrible, but not out of character.

But he really didn't get very far this time.

I think it reflects an important part of his wedding vows - that Christian is his rock. He has come back this time because Christian told him some home truths and stood his ground. He needs Christian to help him change, to pin him down when his instinct is to flee.
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I was ok with that..........nasty, hard to watch.

Zainab was VILE to Tamwar!! Important, I hope.

Syed was a coward, he did run. No doubt about that.

I kind of hate that EE have done this to him, but IF they explore, tomorrow, the whole family dynamic as we've seen in the other preview clips, I can't get too worked up over it now.

Definitely too much 'saint Christian' going on though. But then, last year for me he was so awful, so argghgh I don't know. It's not meant to be a score sheet, I know. But last year he had his moments that for me that were almost beyond repair.....so - I can sit with it. As they say. I sit with it and see what comes out in the wash.

I wait....and I wait.....

*does a Bhuddhist meditation chant*
I don't think Christian was that awful last year. He was very good for a lot of it. That's forgotten.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:14
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Syed came back, that is the important thing. He did come back.
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Yes totally. Didn't believe in that, don't believe in this either. OK, I know Syed has done this before, fine, but not with Christian and Yasmin in the picture. It doesn't square with anything we've seen about his attitude to his daughter. And after we had such great subtle exploration of his doubts/fears about the wedding yesterday, suddenly we're back to 'Syed's a useless coward'. Bah.
Bah indeed.
This is meant to be the same Syed who gave up everything to be with the man he loved, was brave enough to take that risk.
Aaaargh. Must be an evil twin.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:14
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Well that was such a disappointing episode.

for the one THE LACK OF CHRYED! everytime flipping fatboy/denise was on I was shouting where the f... are Chryed!!!


Hate how Syed when from being all honest & open with Christian about his fears and feelings and showing Christian he cares and loves him from his vows to the coward in this epissoe.

Like many I agree how quick Syed was prepared to walk oout on his only just wed husband and HIS daughter!

Hated every thing about the ep tonight....even though I usually like the angsty stuff and angry Christian is usually compelling viewing but I loathed it tonight.....hope tomorrows ep is better!!!
BIB: Denise and Fatboy were annoying me as they were taking up Chryed's screentime (which they rarely usually have).
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:16
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Well that was....painful.
Syed Wasn't he always going to come back though? He wanted to wait until the 'dust had settled' - only he didn't leave at all, he came back to face the music.
Christian alone in the flat

How annoying were Fatboy and Denise though :sleep: I was just like, 'Go back to Chryed! Go back to the Masoods!;
I think tomorrow will be the most important ep. And, of course, it's the ep I'm missing
Me too, Jenn. I'll be on a train to my sister's. I'm just grateful the wedding wasn't on her birthday!
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:16
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Congrats JN on the OP

Didn't enjoy today's ep at all I would have done what Christian had done to be honest. Syed running away after watching what his mother was like and what she was doing to Tamwar - that was his moment to confess. He is a bit of a coward in my opinion I'm afraid, regardless of how much I love him
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:16
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Well that was....painful.
Syed Wasn't he always going to come back though? He wanted to wait until the 'dust had settled' - only he didn't leave at all, he came back to face the music.
Christian alone in the flat

How annoying were Fatboy and Denise though :sleep: I was just like, 'Go back to Chryed! Go back to the Masoods!;
I think tomorrow will be the most important ep. And, of course, it's the ep I'm missing
Way too much time was spent seeing Fatboy paw all over Denise. Tuesday was so complex, so character driven and today was such a let down.

Black Thursday anyone?
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:17
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Syed came back, that is the important thing. He did come back.
He did.
*clings firmly onto this post*
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:17
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Syed came back, that is the important thing. He did come back.
Exactly. In fact, he barely left.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:17
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No, you're right, he has come back before. But each time he runs he seems to come back quicker than the previous time, so I do believe he is changing. Slowly. But his gut reaction is still to do a runner.

I guess my main point is I don't think it's out of character for him to bolt. Wrong and horrible, but not out of character.

But he really didn't get very far this time.

I think it reflects an important part of his wedding vows - that Christian is his rock. He has come back this time because Christian told him some home truths and stood his ground. He needs Christian to help him change, to pin him down when his instinct is to flee.
Yes, I think this too.
He wanted to run with Christian, but Christian stood his ground and told him some home truths, told him to go on the honeymoon on his own. Syed left after having his hand forced but he couldn't go through with it. He came back. Tomorrow is going to be really important...I hope we get the screentime for it.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:18
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Bah indeed.
This is meant to be the same Syed who gave up everything to be with the man he loved, was brave enough to take that risk.
Aaaargh. Must be an evil twin.
BIB: Exactly this! and tbh that demanded more guts and bravery then owning up to this whole financial mess. It just doesn't make sense. What are EE doing??

(ok I suppose because he hurt his family now like twice that yes I guess it doesn't make it easier to admit to what he has done possibly makes it harder).
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:18
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I thought that was good....angsty, but good.

Really great and emotional Zainab/Tam scenes.

Poor Christian He was angry understandably and totally right that Syed had to stay and face the music, and then all alone in the flat

Loved that Yasmin wanted her daddy, her and Amy are so adorable!

Scary Masood is back.

I was so happy Syed came back.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:18
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That's the thing though, I actually can believe he would It's not the first time he's run away rather than facing up to things.
It is consistant, I have to say. Syed running out when the going gets tough is very consistant to his character.

I just hate that it's over this.

At least when he left after the reveal, the viewers could empathise with him. It must have been horrible being judged be his family, his community, everyone for being gay. He had done nothing wrong back then (except cheat) but it was all understandable.

Now he robs his family, loses thier money, lets his brother take the fall and then walks out (on his newly wed husband and little daughter).

I'm pleased he came back but he should have never walked out to begin with. Hell he should have never walked out of that restaurant.

As much as I do like Syed as a character (though I am struggling right now), I can't blame anyone for calling him weak and cowardly. It's very much in line to where he is now and in the past. He leaves when the going gets tough and doesn't speak up if he has an issue.

All characters have thier flaws and when showrunners highlight those flaws, characters do become dislikable. For example Christian's selfishnesses was exposed to the extream last year, making him rather one dimmentional and unlikable, especially after BF. I've heard all the reasons and it doesn't change a thing for me. This year EE have focused on Syed's indecisiveness (over marriage) and lack of voice and fear, which has made him appear even more cowardly and cruel.

It's such a shame that this is thier leaving storyline. I think Christian will now be remembered in a positive light (which is great) but I'm unsure Syed will (by the casual viewers). Look how EE messed up Stacey before she left?

Hopefully EE will be able to turn it around for Syed before he leaves, and I really hope tomorrow is a better episode with Syed finally taking responsibilty but also sheding light on his reluctance to seek help.

Syed is really lacking in empathy right now. It was only his wedding day that I had it for him - in the first time in weeks!
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:18
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He did.
*clings firmly onto this post*
Yeah - but he wouldn't have run in the first place. STUPID contrived bs. He may have run at first, but I would have bet at lot on him never leaving C and Yasmin. It's just detestable draama.

We've put up with a lot, but this is the worse for me.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:20
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Me too, Jenn. I'll be on a train to my sister's. I'm just grateful the wedding wasn't on her birthday!
I'll be seeing Michael McIntyre...which I am looking forward too! I'm sure he'll help me forget about missing the ep

Way too much time was spent seeing Fatboy paw all over Denise. Tuesday was so complex, so character driven and today was such a let down.

Black Thursday anyone?
Way too much time. The scenes with Fatboy outside the door felt like FOREVER.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:20
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That was one of the most painful episodes yet. Instead of the gradual development of the characters, EE has launched them back a few years, for reasons I cannot understand. I don't even think I can discuss Christian and Syed as characters, because this is so unbelievable in terms of drama. Okay, so people grow in spurts and downward trends, but really? Syed would, as a character, spurn daugher, family, brother, and the man he said he loved, the same day he marries him in a freely chosen act of commitment?

This whole story line has been about the redemption of Syed, the reconciliation with his family, and his freedom to be himself and live with Christian. If EE wanted to do all of this family unravelling, why, why after the wedding? It doesn't even make dramatic sense.

Syed grew as a person. He came out, stood by that, loved Christian publically, divorced Amira. He would not have gone backwards and he would never never have run away. Nor would Christian not have said to him that he will come with him. What was that all about, never have to go through this alone?

I am so depressed and disheartened, just cannot speak anymore about it.

I am going to write BBC and recant what I wrote on Tuesday.
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Old 18-10-2012, 20:20
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Bah indeed.
This is meant to be the same Syed who gave up everything to be with the man he loved, was brave enough to take that risk.
Aaaargh. Must be an evil twin.
Yeah, quite. It's that Syod again, isn't it.

I breathed a sigh of relief every time Denise and Fatboy came on the screen.
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