He's been pretty bad- very bad
Can't believe he's heading to Corrie
I dread to think what he'll do
Can't believe he's heading to Corrie
I dread to think what he'll do
Is Stuart Blackburn Emmerdales worst ever producer?
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No and people are a bit harsh on him. Anita Turner was easily the worst producer who turned the show into a farce with cringe-worthy comedy storylines and plots like Doug's crabs. Ratings started to plummet over 2008 and the first half of 2009. Stuart hasn't been amazing, but he's not been that bad. Killing off Carl was a big mistake though, and Viv and Terry (were they killed off under Stuart's reign?)
Dont watch ED, but he cant have been as bad as Lucy Allan HO
she did an Alien SL -where a boy thought he was an alien then with help from a friend built a
rocket and actually got transported to his planet.
she did an Alien SL -where a boy thought he was an alien then with help from a friend built a
rocket and actually got transported to his planet.
Originally Posted by cobwebsoup:
“No and people are a bit harsh on him. Anita Turner was easily the worst producer who turned the show into a farce with cringe-worthy comedy storylines and plots like Doug's crabs. Ratings started to plummet over 2008 and the first half of 2009. Stuart hasn't been amazing, but he's not been that bad. Killing off Carl was a big mistake though, and Viv and Terry (were they killed off under Stuart's reign?)”
“No and people are a bit harsh on him. Anita Turner was easily the worst producer who turned the show into a farce with cringe-worthy comedy storylines and plots like Doug's crabs. Ratings started to plummet over 2008 and the first half of 2009. Stuart hasn't been amazing, but he's not been that bad. Killing off Carl was a big mistake though, and Viv and Terry (were they killed off under Stuart's reign?)”
No, Viv and Terry died in January 2011. Stuart Blackburn took over as series producer in March 2011. Viv's departure was announced in October 2010, while Gavin Blyth was series producer.
Originally Posted by priscilla:
“Dont watch ED, but he cant have been as bad as Lucy Allan HO
she did an Alien SL -where a boy thought he was an alien then with help from a friend built a
rocket and actually got transported to his planet.”
“Dont watch ED, but he cant have been as bad as Lucy Allan HO
she did an Alien SL -where a boy thought he was an alien then with help from a friend built a
rocket and actually got transported to his planet.”
Yes Lucy Allen was pretty bad. Worse than Brian Kirkwood or Stuart Blackburn definitely. That's why I stopped watching Hollyoaks in 2009 and have only just recently got back into it. I watched the serial killer stuff though in 2011. I didn't see the alien storyline, but that must have been pretty ridiculous to watch.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“No, Viv and Terry died in January 2011. Stuart Blackburn took over as series producer in March 2011. Viv's departure was announced in October 2010, while Gavin Blyth was series producer.”
“No, Viv and Terry died in January 2011. Stuart Blackburn took over as series producer in March 2011. Viv's departure was announced in October 2010, while Gavin Blyth was series producer.”
Right, thanks for clearing that up, I couldn't remember.
Stuart axed or drove out loads of characters in his first few months. As a result, there came the point last summer when Emmerdale was no longer the excellent show it was in 2010 and I gave it up, apart from a few special episodes (most recently in July).
In mid-2010 I preferred Emmerdale to Corrie, but Stuart has helped change this round for me.
In mid-2010 I preferred Emmerdale to Corrie, but Stuart has helped change this round for me.
Didnt Viv want to leave Emmerdale though?
I'm sure the spell where she was in prison was where in real life she wanted a break from it
I'm sure the spell where she was in prison was where in real life she wanted a break from it
Let's look at what he's done -
Broken up the Marlon and Paddy friendship - bad thing. Their friendship was true and believable and funny.
Made Ashley abuse his father, broken up his marriage to Laurel and made him lose his job as a Vicar - three bad things. Ashley as Vicar should not have been messed with. He and Laurel are right together. And he should have received more help and support from the Church.
But SB sacked the Bishop character, so all that went out the window.
Put Laurel and Marlon together as a couple - bad thing. They do not work.
Made Chas sleep with her nieces boyfriend - bad thing. Chas would never have done that to Debbie no matter how lonely or desperate for love she was.
Made Lisa go stupid when Zak had his mental health problem. Lisa is an intelligent and strong woman, she would not have behaved like that. She would have sussed it.
Made almost everyone repeat the same lines over and over and over again. So much so that regular viewers could say the next line along with the character because they knew what is coming.
Made Carl turn against Jimmy. He wouldn't do that.
Introduced the Spencers. OK, we are now warming to them, or Dan, at least - but this family unit isn't a popular addition from what I read.
Made Rachel pregnant after a one night stand.
Made Gennie pregnant.
Made Debbie pregnant.
Too many babies all at once.
I'm sure there are more things.
But all that is bad enough.
He's only been in the job a year.
Broken up the Marlon and Paddy friendship - bad thing. Their friendship was true and believable and funny.
Made Ashley abuse his father, broken up his marriage to Laurel and made him lose his job as a Vicar - three bad things. Ashley as Vicar should not have been messed with. He and Laurel are right together. And he should have received more help and support from the Church.
But SB sacked the Bishop character, so all that went out the window.
Put Laurel and Marlon together as a couple - bad thing. They do not work.
Made Chas sleep with her nieces boyfriend - bad thing. Chas would never have done that to Debbie no matter how lonely or desperate for love she was.
Made Lisa go stupid when Zak had his mental health problem. Lisa is an intelligent and strong woman, she would not have behaved like that. She would have sussed it.
Made almost everyone repeat the same lines over and over and over again. So much so that regular viewers could say the next line along with the character because they knew what is coming.
Made Carl turn against Jimmy. He wouldn't do that.
Introduced the Spencers. OK, we are now warming to them, or Dan, at least - but this family unit isn't a popular addition from what I read.
Made Rachel pregnant after a one night stand.
Made Gennie pregnant.
Made Debbie pregnant.
Too many babies all at once.
I'm sure there are more things.
But all that is bad enough.
He's only been in the job a year.
Originally Posted by Wench02:
“Didnt Viv want to leave Emmerdale though?
I'm sure the spell where she was in prison was where in real life she wanted a break from it”
“Didnt Viv want to leave Emmerdale though?
I'm sure the spell where she was in prison was where in real life she wanted a break from it”
The actress gave several interviews at the time - she was sacked. She did not ask to leave the show altogether.
Her request for time off came quite a while before she was written out altogether - but neither were during Stuart Blackburn's tenure as producer.
daft question, who here as watched all the output for the last 40 years under every producer?...
no?
the no one can truely give a proper answer.
no?
the no one can truely give a proper answer.
Originally Posted by priscilla:
“Dont watch ED, but he cant have been as bad as Lucy Allan HO
she did an Alien SL -where a boy thought he was an alien then with help from a friend built a
rocket and actually got transported to his planet.”
“Dont watch ED, but he cant have been as bad as Lucy Allan HO
she did an Alien SL -where a boy thought he was an alien then with help from a friend built a
rocket and actually got transported to his planet.”
No, that was Paul Marquess - the worst producer of all time.
Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“Let's look at what he's done -
Insert one sided arguement here which only focuses on bad things, to make him seem worse than he actually was
He's only been in the job a year.
”
“Let's look at what he's done -
Insert one sided arguement here which only focuses on bad things, to make him seem worse than he actually was
He's only been in the job a year.
”
He was in charge at the end of 2010, maybe even before then due to GB's ill health.
i havent watched it since he took over from the wonderful Gavin Blyth.
I tuned into the live episode and was utterly disapointed!
I tuned into the live episode and was utterly disapointed!
Originally Posted by mr_scotty2hotty:
“i havent watched it since he took over from the wonderful Gavin Blyth.
I tuned into the live episode and was utterly disapointed!”
“i havent watched it since he took over from the wonderful Gavin Blyth.
I tuned into the live episode and was utterly disapointed!”
Not a confrontational or rhetorical question, but just out of curiosity - why were you disappointed? I must say, I enjoyed the 2nd half a lot more than the first, although I understand people's disappointment with killing Carl off.
Originally Posted by downtonfan:
“Gavin Blythe axed Viv's character. Not Anita.”
“Gavin Blythe axed Viv's character. Not Anita.”
One of the late Gavin's best decisions
Originally Posted by Imonfire:
“He was in charge at the end of 2010, maybe even before then due to GB's ill health.”
“He was in charge at the end of 2010, maybe even before then due to GB's ill health.”
No he wasn't - Tony Hammond was the interim producer till SB was given the job in 2011.
Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“Let's look at what he's done -
Broken up the Marlon and Paddy friendship - bad thing. Their friendship was true and believable and funny.
Made Ashley abuse his father, broken up his marriage to Laurel and made him lose his job as a Vicar - three bad things. Ashley as Vicar should not have been messed with. He and Laurel are right together. And he should have received more help and support from the Church.
But SB sacked the Bishop character, so all that went out the window.
Put Laurel and Marlon together as a couple - bad thing. They do not work.
Made Chas sleep with her nieces boyfriend - bad thing. Chas would never have done that to Debbie no matter how lonely or desperate for love she was.
Made Lisa go stupid when Zak had his mental health problem. Lisa is an intelligent and strong woman, she would not have behaved like that. She would have sussed it.
Made almost everyone repeat the same lines over and over and over again. So much so that regular viewers could say the next line along with the character because they knew what is coming.
Made Carl turn against Jimmy. He wouldn't do that.
Introduced the Spencers. OK, we are now warming to them, or Dan, at least - but this family unit isn't a popular addition from what I read.
Made Rachel pregnant after a one night stand.
Made Gennie pregnant.
Made Debbie pregnant.
Too many babies all at once.
I'm sure there are more things.
But all that is bad enough.
He's only been in the job a year.
”
“Let's look at what he's done -
Broken up the Marlon and Paddy friendship - bad thing. Their friendship was true and believable and funny.
Made Ashley abuse his father, broken up his marriage to Laurel and made him lose his job as a Vicar - three bad things. Ashley as Vicar should not have been messed with. He and Laurel are right together. And he should have received more help and support from the Church.
But SB sacked the Bishop character, so all that went out the window.
Put Laurel and Marlon together as a couple - bad thing. They do not work.
Made Chas sleep with her nieces boyfriend - bad thing. Chas would never have done that to Debbie no matter how lonely or desperate for love she was.
Made Lisa go stupid when Zak had his mental health problem. Lisa is an intelligent and strong woman, she would not have behaved like that. She would have sussed it.
Made almost everyone repeat the same lines over and over and over again. So much so that regular viewers could say the next line along with the character because they knew what is coming.
Made Carl turn against Jimmy. He wouldn't do that.
Introduced the Spencers. OK, we are now warming to them, or Dan, at least - but this family unit isn't a popular addition from what I read.
Made Rachel pregnant after a one night stand.
Made Gennie pregnant.
Made Debbie pregnant.
Too many babies all at once.
I'm sure there are more things.
But all that is bad enough.
He's only been in the job a year.
”
This
And no - I'm not warming to new and re-characterised Dan
Originally Posted by Multimedia81:
“Stuart axed or drove out loads of characters in his first few months. As a result, there came the point last summer when Emmerdale was no longer the excellent show it was in 2010 and I gave it up, apart from a few special episodes (most recently in July).
In mid-2010 I preferred Emmerdale to Corrie, but Stuart has helped change this round for me.”
“Stuart axed or drove out loads of characters in his first few months. As a result, there came the point last summer when Emmerdale was no longer the excellent show it was in 2010 and I gave it up, apart from a few special episodes (most recently in July).
In mid-2010 I preferred Emmerdale to Corrie, but Stuart has helped change this round for me.”
I didn't realise he'd axed characters when he started - who went? (I stopped watching for six months somewhere in SB's reign.)
Oh, and I've got to say - although the Chas/Cameron story should never have happened, Lucy P's really impressive acting throughout has made it not only somehow plausible for her character, but also made Chas still a sympathetic character. I think she's done a great job against terrible storylining decisions. (sorry to wonder a bit off topic)
I personally think Anita Turner, Steve Frost, and (runs away for fear of the backlash) Gavin Blyth were all worse, although several instances of Emmerdale have been truly awful during Blackburn's tenure.
Despite Emmerdale's self-evident success during Blyth's era, I did not like his work at all and switched off throughout that period. Aaron was a deeply unlikeable and unconvincing character; the Bartons were merely a poster family with little personality and extremely poor acting ability in the Barton sisters especially; although it was time for the Dingles to take a bit of a backseat, they were all but forgotten under Blyth and replaced with, in my opinion, the panto Wylde family who were just all over Emmerdale like a rash. The show lost it's crucial humour, killing off Shadrach was unnecessary and damaging, and characters started to become very isolated, so instead of a community feel, it was like watching 10 different mini-soaps within one big soap.
Blyth's vision of Emmerdale was very specific; subsequently, Blackburn had an extremely hard time resetting the show in his early reign; as a result, a bizarrely large number of cast all went at more or less the same time; one of the show's worst, if not the actual worst, storyline ever came in the form of Jackson's assisted suicide (another Blyth juggernaut), during which time the show was unbelievably miserable.
All of the above is down squarely to Gavin Blyth.
As for Blackburn, yes he has made some terrible errors of judgment - the Spencers hogging the screen in their early days and being utterly obnoxious; Maurel; the elder abuse plot (device); the saviour sibling story given to the wrong set of characters; Debbie acting like an SS guard most of the time; Zak's utterly appalling and vague 'mental illness' plot - etc. etc. But look at the positives - Genhil have absolutely blossomed, not just as a couple but as individual characters; Amy has become much more likeable since last Christmas and has reinvigorated the Pollards; John Barton's death and subsequent aftermath was powerful and well done; the Spencers are patchy but have improved - Ruby and Dan are likeable, Ali's calmed down and Amelia is shaping up to be one of the show's brightest child stars; even Bernice is coming back!
And let's not forget the live ep - perhaps one of, if not THE best episode of Emmerdale ever, which did a great job of making some rather dodgy plots seem compelling, and written and acted beautifully; there are scenes and dialogue in that live ep I will never forget!
So is Stuart Blackburn ED's worst ever producer? No.
Despite Emmerdale's self-evident success during Blyth's era, I did not like his work at all and switched off throughout that period. Aaron was a deeply unlikeable and unconvincing character; the Bartons were merely a poster family with little personality and extremely poor acting ability in the Barton sisters especially; although it was time for the Dingles to take a bit of a backseat, they were all but forgotten under Blyth and replaced with, in my opinion, the panto Wylde family who were just all over Emmerdale like a rash. The show lost it's crucial humour, killing off Shadrach was unnecessary and damaging, and characters started to become very isolated, so instead of a community feel, it was like watching 10 different mini-soaps within one big soap.
Blyth's vision of Emmerdale was very specific; subsequently, Blackburn had an extremely hard time resetting the show in his early reign; as a result, a bizarrely large number of cast all went at more or less the same time; one of the show's worst, if not the actual worst, storyline ever came in the form of Jackson's assisted suicide (another Blyth juggernaut), during which time the show was unbelievably miserable.
All of the above is down squarely to Gavin Blyth.
As for Blackburn, yes he has made some terrible errors of judgment - the Spencers hogging the screen in their early days and being utterly obnoxious; Maurel; the elder abuse plot (device); the saviour sibling story given to the wrong set of characters; Debbie acting like an SS guard most of the time; Zak's utterly appalling and vague 'mental illness' plot - etc. etc. But look at the positives - Genhil have absolutely blossomed, not just as a couple but as individual characters; Amy has become much more likeable since last Christmas and has reinvigorated the Pollards; John Barton's death and subsequent aftermath was powerful and well done; the Spencers are patchy but have improved - Ruby and Dan are likeable, Ali's calmed down and Amelia is shaping up to be one of the show's brightest child stars; even Bernice is coming back!
And let's not forget the live ep - perhaps one of, if not THE best episode of Emmerdale ever, which did a great job of making some rather dodgy plots seem compelling, and written and acted beautifully; there are scenes and dialogue in that live ep I will never forget!
So is Stuart Blackburn ED's worst ever producer? No.
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