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Old 19-10-2012, 12:35
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I think it was done too quickly and although it was a shock, i think that moment should of been left as Sarah's moment, she has just found about the 'magic potion' so it was a happy moment and although it was great for the shock value, i do think it should of been left.
This is how I think it should of been done, Cameron and Debbie decide to get Married and Debbie is sorting through some stuff, she finds Carls phone, not knowing whose it is but thinks it strange so she goes through it trying to find out whose it is, she goes through the messages and finds all these texts to chas and a text from Cameron saying to meet him in the Church on the night he died, she then looks at the draft messages as there is one saved in there and she sees the photo of Chas and Cameron ready to be sent but she tweaks that Cameron must of killed him, hence why the photo was in the drafts as Carl never had a chance to send it.

If it was done like this, you have the reveal of the Cameron being found out about the affair and the murder all in one plus you have him sort of over it, moving on, looking to the future and being happy and then his life is turned upside down.

Anyone else got any ideas?
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Old 19-10-2012, 12:41
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Im really glad she found out quite quickly after Carls death. If it had dragged on I think viewers would have got bored and frustrated
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Old 19-10-2012, 12:41
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I'm happy it came out quick in this particular storyline to drag this one out would have been fustrating.

The fall out to this in the coming weeks sounds great
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Old 19-10-2012, 12:45
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It was done brilliantly. Everyone, myself included, probably thought it would drag on and on with Cameron ducking and diving getting lucky escape after lucky escape for months. I didn't expect it to be revealed so quickly, a genuine surprise.
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Old 19-10-2012, 12:46
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I'm happy it came out quick in this particular storyline to drag this one out would have been fustrating.

The fall out to this in the coming weeks sounds great
Im not talking like 4 or 5 months, im just talking like a couple of weeks, i think it would of caused more drama if like had all gone back to normal in a sense and maybe Jimmy or someone else had been arrested for it.
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Old 19-10-2012, 13:12
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Im not talking like 4 or 5 months, im just talking like a couple of weeks, i think it would of caused more drama if like had all gone back to normal in a sense and maybe Jimmy or someone else had been arrested for it.
They still might, it is looking that Chas, not Cameron, is going to be prime suspect and unless Cameron confesses then there is a lot of evidence against her
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Old 19-10-2012, 13:14
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Coming out like that will definately put Cameron in the firing line with the police once they realise that the last thing Carl did was text Debbie a photo. Cameron has to be going down for this one soon!!

I need him off my screen, many other actors I can take but not impressed with his acting abilities IMO. Apologies if I disagree with anyone else out there.
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Old 19-10-2012, 14:31
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Im not talking like 4 or 5 months, im just talking like a couple of weeks, i think it would of caused more drama if like had all gone back to normal in a sense and maybe Jimmy or someone else had been arrested for it.
I know DS ED fans very well and I promise you if it had taken more than 5 minutes for her to find out, we would all have been moaning like hell that it was all being dragged out.
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Old 19-10-2012, 14:33
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Coming out like that will definately put Cameron in the firing line with the police once they realise that the last thing Carl did was text Debbie a photo. Cameron has to be going down for this one soon!!

I need him off my screen, many other actors I can take but not impressed with his acting abilities IMO. Apologies if I disagree with anyone else out there.
How will they realise that when Cameron nicked Carl's phone?

I'm sure JerseyScum will get his comeuppance eventually, but not just yet I suspect.
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Old 19-10-2012, 14:38
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I know DS ED fans very well and I promise you if it had taken more than 5 minutes for her to find out, we would all have been moaning like hell that it was all being dragged out.
What are you trying to say

I for one LOVED it ! I kept thinking that Cameron was going to take her phone and it wouldnt have come out at all.
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Old 19-10-2012, 14:45
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I'm glad it came out quickly, it would have been too frustrating waiting for her to find out. Plus I'm SO glad Carl got his revenge from the grave, it makes me feel a tinsy winsy bit better about his death, although my heart is still broken
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Old 19-10-2012, 14:53
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I LOVED that it came out so quickly. Charley Webb nailed the scenes perfectly!
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Old 19-10-2012, 15:13
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I couldn't wait any longer, it was annoying me waiting for her to charge her bloody phone all two episodes. It was enough time.
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Old 19-10-2012, 15:17
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I'm happy with how it came out, I think viewers may have lost interest, if you make the couple of epsiodes after the live one exciting and with a cliffhanger you will maintain those high viewings for a while.
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Old 19-10-2012, 15:23
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I'm happy with how it came out also..
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Old 19-10-2012, 15:27
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In soaps some things can really drag on, I am glad Debbie has found out now-the next few weeks will be interesting.
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Old 19-10-2012, 15:28
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How will they realise that when Cameron nicked Carl's phone?

I'm sure JerseyScum will get his comeuppance eventually, but not just yet I suspect.
It would be fairly easy to check his phone records and see he sent an MMS to Debbie. All of his outgoing calls / texts / MMS would be logged, just not their content. This is true even of Pay as You Go, which as a businessman I'm sure Carl wouldn't have been.

To be honest I hope it doesn't all drag on too long - the live ep was brilliant but I'd like that high level to continue, not have ED riding on it's coat tails until Christmas.
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Old 19-10-2012, 16:26
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I think it was done too quickly and although it was a shock, i think that moment should of been left as Sarah's moment, she has just found about the 'magic potion' so it was a happy moment and although it was great for the shock value, i do think it should of been left.
This is how I think it should of been done, Cameron and Debbie decide to get Married and Debbie is sorting through some stuff, she finds Carls phone, not knowing whose it is but thinks it strange so she goes through it trying to find out whose it is, she goes through the messages and finds all these texts to chas and a text from Cameron saying to meet him in the Church on the night he died, she then looks at the draft messages as there is one saved in there and she sees the photo of Chas and Cameron ready to be sent but she tweaks that Cameron must of killed him, hence why the photo was in the drafts as Carl never had a chance to send it.

If it was done like this, you have the reveal of the Cameron being found out about the affair and the murder all in one plus you have him sort of over it, moving on, looking to the future and being happy and then his life is turned upside down.

Anyone else got any ideas?
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Old 19-10-2012, 17:28
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It's about Cain finding out now I really hope it happens and very soon
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Old 19-10-2012, 17:32
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I think it has gone on long enough. In fact the factthe episode ended the way it did has made sure I will tune in tonight.

I do think and hope it is significant that Debbie doesn't kmow who sent her the text as it came up as just a number. This will perhaps lead Debbie to go on a search in the coming days to discover who sent it.

It will be good if it is Debbie who does work out that Cameron is the killer and simultaneously the police have seen a record of Carl's calls & texts (as they don't need his phone as long as he was on contract to do this). The police trace Debbie as being the last person Carl texted. Once they see the photo, that instantly gives Cameron a motive. Charity, Cain and Debbie are all suspicious of where Cameron got to the night Jack was born. Debbie also knows that she gave Cameron a false alibi the night of the Woolpack robbery.

Debbie may not reveal straight away she knows about the affair but I think she will be the one that brings him down.
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Old 19-10-2012, 17:32
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I'm glad Debbeh knows now. Would've been annoying to see it being dragged out even more.
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Old 19-10-2012, 18:09
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I couldn't wait any longer, it was annoying me waiting for her to charge her bloody phone all two episodes. It was enough time.
I think the fact that for a few times, we saw her battery needed recharging, was quite a good way to keep people hooked! They had the whole what happens when she finally plugs the bleedin' thing in thing going on!

Don't really watch Em, seen last few weeks though, but who actually took the pic and why were they in the bedroom with Chas and Cameron? And how did Carl get the pic? My other half watches Em, but obviously doesn't pay full attention as he couldn't remember!!!
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Old 19-10-2012, 18:45
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I think it would have been better if Debbie had been at Chazs wedding when she recieved the text containing the photos and the shock and anger of it all sent her into labour.
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Old 19-10-2012, 18:49
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How did Carl get a pic of Chas & Cameron in bed in the first place? Was he hiding in the wardrobe or something?
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Old 19-10-2012, 19:56
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How did Carl get a pic of Chas & Cameron in bed in the first place? Was he hiding in the wardrobe or something?
carl nicked chas phone off the bar one night and he found the photo on there and the messages, he sent copies to his phone to blackmail them .. probably took debbies number too as people dont understand why he had her number either
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