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Old 01-11-2012, 00:24
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Did I say that they did? No





In your opinion. And I'm not talking about changes, I'm talking about a complete lack of references to the original. There is nothing from the original stories in anything to do with the series except their names, professions and the quirkiness of his characterisation. Sherlock is a much more intelligent and informed reworking.



I don't. I could ask you to point out where I said I did, but that would embarrass you, so don't bother

And by the way, I like it.
When people write things, they don't just "say," they "imply," okay? I addressed a couple of things that I believe were implied in the comment I responded to.

And the "references" to the stories ARE the things you say -- names, professions, quirks of characterization. Those are the references the producer chose to limit himself to, as he didn't want to reference any plot points in stories. You haven't explained what is wrong with that. And if you say you like the show, then I don't get the complaining tone. And I agree with you that Sherlock is a more intelligent reworking (I don't know about "informed," because the producer may know every bit as much about the source material as Moffat and Gatiss; he simply chose to incorporate less of the original material in his adaptation).
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:26
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I like it Jonny Lee Miller is superb as Holmes. I tend to forget about the connection with the Conan Doyle stories, and just enjoy it for what it is.

(Also, I could listen to Aidan Quinn all day - he has the most lovely voice )
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:49
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for me it's getting to the point now were all my shows have ended or coming to an end and i'm not quite sure what new series will replace them, but this is definatly one of those new ones i'm sticking with, i was a bit worried it would mirror the UK version, but after watching the first 2 episodes i think its pretty safe to say that its not going to happen, i like this show for what it is, i actually prefer the holmes and watson relationship in the US version and i'm probably in a minority here but i like lucy liu in the role on watson and i got the feeling from episode 2 it won't be long before we get the first story arc for the season
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Old 01-11-2012, 19:10
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We thought it was ok, not as bad as US version of Prime Suspect
The US version of Prime Suspect was very good. It was a shame that NBC cancelled it just like they cancelled Life.
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Old 01-11-2012, 19:19
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^at least with Life they had finished the main story arc, and a cracking finish it was.
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Old 01-11-2012, 19:22
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^at least with Life they had finished the main story arc, and a cracking finish it was.
Yes, it was. However, I wanted more Charlie Crews, Dani Reese and Life.
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Old 01-11-2012, 20:44
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We thought it was ok, not as bad as US version of Prime Suspect


That was shocking wasn't it?

I don't like this either. Sherlock's making errors in deductions all over the place, that's not who Sherlock is, he's intellectually brilliant, I don't get that from this.

It would have worked better for me if Lucy Liu was Sherlock and Johnny Lee Miller was Dr Watson.
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Old 01-11-2012, 22:28
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Yes, it was. However, I wanted more Charlie Crews, Dani Reese and Life.
I'm with you there. Had the distinct feeling that S3 would have shown us much of what went on during his time in jail.

.....It would have worked better for me if Lucy Liu was Sherlock and Johnny Lee Miller was Dr Watson.
I can just imagine the furore if the US people had "dared" to make Sherlock a Lady.
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:27
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That was shocking wasn't it?

I don't like this either. Sherlock's making errors in deductions all over the place, that's not who Sherlock is, he's intellectually brilliant, I don't get that from this.

It would have worked better for me if Lucy Liu was Sherlock and Johnny Lee Miller was Dr Watson.
That would have been fun, but my fantasy of Lucy Liu telling me to cough, is ruined.
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Old 02-11-2012, 13:43
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it's not bad , I actually prefer Lee-Miller to Cumberbatch ( who is too OTT for my liking) . weird that they were both in the Frankenstein stage production recently alternating roles .
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Old 04-11-2012, 19:12
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Just watched the second of these as it was in my planner. I'm really underwhelmed by it tbh and don't think I'll be watching anymore - it's a bit 'murder by numbers' and I'm finding Jonny Lee Miller very annoying
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Old 05-11-2012, 21:51
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Elementary got the post superbowl slot!
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Old 05-11-2012, 22:39
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The show is certainly not bad, but it's not anything special either. Just another run of the mill show.
I like Lucy Liu but there's not enough about the show to keep me hooked.
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Old 06-11-2012, 16:26
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I thought it was ok & passes an hour. Bit concerned Americans think all brits talk in a stupid clipped cod-english way like Johnny L-M in the series - cos we dont! I've never met anyone with such a weird accent - suspect its just for US tv audiences.
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Old 06-11-2012, 16:29
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I thought it was ok & passes an hour. Bit concerned Americans think all brits talk in a stupid clipped cod-english way like Johnny L-M in the series - cos we dont! I've never met anyone with such a weird accent - suspect its just for US tv audiences.
Well as far as American TV seems to be concerned there are only two English accents ie "posh" and Cockney
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Old 06-11-2012, 16:35
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Lest we forget Daphne Moon
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Old 06-11-2012, 16:51
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I thought it was ok & passes an hour. Bit concerned Americans think all brits talk in a stupid clipped cod-english way like Johnny L-M in the series - cos we dont! I've never met anyone with such a weird accent - suspect its just for US tv audiences.
Speak for yourself GrouchoM ....
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Old 06-11-2012, 21:37
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He's very Derren Brown.
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:35
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Good case last night, with a great twist.
Adam reminded me of the Edward Norton character in Primal Fear.



Loving the Locations too, still, that scene at the end on the Bench, with the View....stunning.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:01
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He's very Derren Brown.
Yes he is. I like him though.

Its certainly watchable but I don't like the premise of Watson being a mentor to stop him drinking.
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Old 07-11-2012, 21:45
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A nice way to pass an hour, JLM is good and I'm liking Liu more than I thought I would.

I'm ashamed to say that I didn't immediately recognise Aidan Quinn - but I think the last time I saw him in anything was Benny and Joon so perhaps I can be forgiven.
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Old 08-11-2012, 16:25
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This is a show that I'm growing to love, didn't like the first Episode, but after last nights battle of wits with Adam, it seemed to bring Sherlock to life, and with that the relationship wit Watson grew. I do think that they are letting the show "bed-in" before starting to Slip in references to the conan doyle works
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Old 08-11-2012, 22:44
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Good case last night, with a great twist.
Adam reminded me of the Edward Norton character in Primal Fear.



Loving the Locations too, still, that scene at the end on the Bench, with the View....stunning.


Still struggling with the concept of someone outsmarting Sherlock. It really rankles with me.
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Old 08-11-2012, 23:25
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Sherlock has to have a challenge or else the show is just him being wonderful every week
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Old 08-11-2012, 23:46
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Elementary got the post superbowl slot!
Hope they don't waste the opportunity to wow all the "so what's this show all about" people who will be first time watchers - unlike (iirc) wot TSCC did with their borefest ep post superbowl which was basically Sarah lying in a field for 40mins with no sign of any robot on robot battle fest anywhere (though my memory might be a little flawed. )

Maybe the Sherlock ptb will use this slot for an adaption of a well known Sherlock story. - preferably a two parter.
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