I am not a big Vinnie Jones fan, but for me in his episode he was very convincing, in fact more than I have seen him before - probably due to careful control by the directors and producers.

They have ramped up the tension between Sherlock and the Captain - after the fallout from that story, with Holmes seeking his revenge. Will be interesting to see how that develops.

Where did I once say that anyone in the UK spells the date out that way? The fact still remains is that is what the date is whether you choose to say it that way or not.

Why not biggest, middle, smallest? Really? Its ironic that you would ask that in a Sherlock thread.

The reason it is logical to lay it in the order of small, medium, big when it comes to dates because the smallest factor being the day has the highest quantity (365), months (12) year (1). Therefore, you put the year at the end because it wont change for 365 days and so is the least 'significant' factor when looking at the date. Days change at the highest regularity so you put that at the start.

It really isn't rocket science..

Cumberbatch's Sherlock isn't an alien, Sherlock Holmes is an alien.

From the start of his inception he has been created to be un-human like. The fascination with him is because he defies belief when it comes to intelligence and by making him more human, you are removing the biggest attraction that makes him Sherlock Holmes.

If I wanted to see a vulnerable crack addict i'd watch Scarface. I don't like Miller's version because it isnt Sherlock Holmes. It's an American's creator's interpretation made for American audiences which has now made the series dull and monotonous as far as i'm concerned.

Obviously in a country where the day is at the end and not the beginning people would just pay more attention to the right side and not the left -- just as in my country everybody's attention focuses on the middle rather than EITHER end. Again, you are trying to make out something a matter of logic that has nothing to do with logic. I suppose next you will try telling me that driving on the left side of the road is more logical than driving on the right.

No, that is NOT the Conan Doyle Sherlock. Conan Doyle's Sherlock is often very charming and personable, rather than being a git all the time. But I am the first to argue that dramatists have no obligation to do exactly what Conan Doyle did. Sherlock Holmes has been played on screen by something like 90 different actors, so adding new variations is a good idea. I'm all in favour of new adaptations adding their own twists and areas of emphasis. Moffat has exaggerated certain tendencies in the original Holmes, and I am fine with that. Conan Doyle's Holmes was no stranger to drugs, and Elementary's producers have chosen to accentuate THAT part of the character more than Conan Doyle or anybody else has chosen to do before.

They can do what they like of course but it is the most un-Sherlock Holmes like portrayal there has ever been.

It has everything to do with logic and comparing it to driving on a specific side of the road is pointless and irrelevant.

Well there was Without A Clue...and that time he was a mouse.

Touche

Welsh author MJ Trow wrote a series of 16 books in which Inspector Lestrade was the genius detective and Sherlock Holmes (when he appeared) was an incompetent bungler

Wonder why Vinnie Jones' character just arrived from the UK, when talking to a fellow Brit, referred to his 'mobile' as his 'cell'?

Surely it was so US audiences knew what he was talking about?

In that case, yes, there is no way to justify it as an Englishman communicating with an American by using an Americanism. That really is all about being intelligible to the American TV audience, many of whom I am sure don't know that Brits call cell phones "mobiles." And there is something else you could have mentioned in the same spirit: Sherlock's pronouncing the word "baton" the way an American or Canadian would just before he hits Moran with the baton. Or am I wrong in thinking Brits pronounce the word as "batten?"

You're not wrong. We tend to Anglicise French words more than the North Americans.

well I can't see the writers thinking that sherlock's 'dad' would write "check" to be polite to her , it isn't really polite anyway .

Is it possible that Sherlock's dad could turn out to be American??

Well he punched him last night, which I guess is a start.

Not the best case this week with the War Games, still fun...but they introduce Clyde.


Couldn't get into the BBC version.:yawn:

I'm rapidly going off this series as the last two episodes contained a lot of blood and violence.
I liked it best when it was more about puzzle solving (as was the original Sherlock Holmes stories), without all the gratuitous violence and gore.

As I watch The Following, I found it tame, 'the gratuitous violence and gore'....and behind all that was a great Case, with Kathryn the new Deductionist {is she alive}....and the escaped Mad Man...+ Sister.

And the trap for the 'Ladies' at the start, was very Funny....plus the Watson's trouble at her Apartment.

I'm enjoying this too (and The Following). I find if I like watching an actor, the actual plot lines don't matter so much, so given that I like watching Jonny Lee Miller & Kevin Bacon, I'll be watching these until they end.

US episodes are now being scheduled once every three weeks. Either popularity is dwindling or they can't make episodes fast enough...

I'm guessing the latter...I'm sure there was only going to be 12 episodes in the first season, but because it became a Big Hit, they ordered more.

I hope that's the reason.

CBS actually upped the season order twice, first to 22 episodes, and then to 24. They also gave the show the plum post-Superbowl slot, though in the event that didn't have much benefit because the power outages delayed it so much. Anyway, those are all good signs that the show is well thought of, and even though the ratings aren't spectacular, a 2nd season is pretty much inevitable at this point...

I really like the show - yes, it's Holmes-Lite, but it's fun, the leads have real chemistry, and I like the slight shift the relationship has taken now Holmes is Watson's mentor, rather than "patient"... if they don't dumb down for season 2, there's lots of potential.

Interesting one with John Hannah as Holmes's dark past....I'm not sure I totally got him as an ex Drug Dealer. Still a 'Finger Licking' great episode.

Loved the Street with the Benches....and the way Holmes worked out the Fed Agent in the Club.

But when are we going to see his Dad.



"I believe in Sherlock Holmes"

A second season has been commissioned

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...by-cbs/175317/

Missed this first time round so assume season 1 will be rerun to lead into season2?