IIRC a woman claimed she was dating him and he said nothing, so everyone assumed he was using her as a beard.

Did anybody really think Gary Speed was gay?

Yep just saw tom cruise, he definitely throws out a gay vibe

I don't know if anybody did or not, but his death was such a shock - in a world where not much is shocking any more - that it seemed there must be something in his personal life which he just couldn't bear to deal with or discuss in public. I have no idea what that "something" was.

No, but when someone kills themselves of out the blue you can expect the standard "was about to be outed as gay" rumours to begin

There is an agreement between the media and the English footballing world that players/managers will never be outed as gay against their will (hence why it has never happened), so i doubt it very much

If this WERE the case, why are we assuming that his suicide came down to -just- being outed by the English press? There is foreign media, plus the possibility of a spouse or partner/children finding out if a lover could potentially go to them and expose a secret affair. Then the knock-on effect of other things being found out or coming to light...

It's all theoretical, of course. But there were rumours. Rumours are rumours, but they were there, rightly or wrongly.

I keep an open mind. The man might have been in debt or had drinking or drug issues for all anyone knows, or simply hid severe depression or bipolar disorder very well. Or any combination.

But being able to expose a thing isn't solely reliant on the English media.

I was watching Reality Bites the other night and had a vibe about Jake Quickenden.

Maybe bi

You know you are old when your first thought is I don't remember that name from the Winona Ryder, Ethan Hawke movie.

I did too, quite a strong one but hes apparently bedding foggys daughter.
Then again it could be for simple media attention and they've got a bit of money.

Yeah that's a possibility.

Jake had a girlfriend for 4 years before X Factor (they may still secretly be together, though he's playing the single card to boost his profile)

He's a bit.....camp isn't the word but i understand why people might get a gay vibe from him. It's a modern day thing though, you see young straight guys like him everywhere these days

Indeed. I know one or two (including one who said he would date me if he was gay lol).

I guess it doesn't rule out the bi possibility.

Like I said he's trying to publicise at the minute as is she to a certain extent, that he's dating Carl fogartys daughter. Got a feeling it's to promote them both as they both seem desperate for attention/fame.

he could just be like one of those confused gay guys who thinks he's straight until it's too late dragged down with a wife and kids. he did say once he thought his mentor mel b was hot and all that, she isn't exactly the most feminine woman is she? still fancy a bit of her though, so don't judge me

I just saw an article re: Simon Cowell and his girlfriend at the Elle awards. There's an entire article dedicated to 'how loved up' they are with endless pictures of them 'kissing'.

I like that DM nearly always post a video with their articles and I think that paints a better picture than the photos do... it shows the pair standing together... the photographer shouts 'are we going to get that sneaky little kiss shot again?'... Simon awkwardly laughs... barely kisses her... the photographers seem to say 'eurgh' and then Simon pats her on the bottom as though to say 'well done' and the two part ways... lol

a different picture to the article imo LOL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ards-2015.html

I think jake tries to claim he fancies every woman that walks.......over compensating.

The DM always prints those articles with some idiotic blurb like "Simon has the look of love as he poses with stunning girlfriend Lauren".... but nothing could be further from the truth.

He's hardly ever looking directly at her, he's certainly not making eye contact and the expression on his face is usually just blank.

It's such a load of nonsense.

The Daily Mail do that about every couple, and plenty of pairings who aren't couples.

They do indeed, I wasn't suggesting Cowell's an exception. It's still true that their stories about his relationships are complete horseshit.

Indeed. As I've mentioned before the obvious ones that the DM have done were the Taylor Swift / Karlie Kloss one which got them in a bit of trouble with Taylor and the Sophie Turner / Hailee Steinfeld one, which was ignored lol.

Lol, same as how these rags spend time trying to convince us Our Kerrah has 'jetted off on a sunshine break' when actually she's just down the road at a mate's house with a pool and fence.

The must be a reason why Louis Walsh is unsackable.

Bet its been going on for years, the sneaky pair

I keep hearing Alicia keys popping up here and there, I think she's more bi if anything though

No they didn't. And Michael had that fake relationship with Brooke shields not to mention the relationship with Lisa Marie Presley.

I intend to stay single forever though so your theory is wrong. The only thing I wanted out of life is a career, not everyone wants to sleep around. Sex certainly wasn't an interest of mine even though I was pressured into it numerous times.