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Old 26-11-2015, 23:12
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Of course Dee but noone else was telling people to stop posting
True.
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Old 28-11-2015, 06:42
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I'd take some of your own advice if I were you.

So disagreeing about someone being gay based on very flimsy evidence is being rude is it?
Someone asked why people think Cheryl's gay, I was simply answering her question. I don't deserved to be attacked for it.

And if you think the evidence is flimsy, try posting a comment on a Mirror or Daily Mail article saying that Cheryl might be gay. It will be quickly deleted or not posted at all. You are allowed to post that she's talentless, fake, all kinds of insults, but any post about her not being straight is not allowed. Why do you think they would be deleting posts like that if there was no truth to the rumor? Try to post something, just for kicks, saying she's gay under a Cheryl article, I dare you. It won't be posted on the Daily Mail, and it'll be deleted after a few hours in the Mirror. This combined with all the blind items about her being gay.....the speculation is not flimsy
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Old 28-11-2015, 12:37
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Someone asked why people think Cheryl's gay, I was simply answering her question. I don't deserved to be attacked for it.

And if you think the evidence is flimsy, try posting a comment on a Mirror or Daily Mail article saying that Cheryl might be gay. It will be quickly deleted or not posted at all. You are allowed to post that she's talentless, fake, all kinds of insults, but any post about her not being straight is not allowed. Why do you think they would be deleting posts like that if there was no truth to the rumor? Try to post something, just for kicks, saying she's gay under a Cheryl article, I dare you. It won't be posted on the Daily Mail, and it'll be deleted after a few hours in the Mirror. This combined with all the blind items about her being gay.....the speculation is not flimsy
I think describing a few people basically saying your post is nonsense as an 'attack' is a little bit dramatic.

That maybe true, but commenting saying she is gay is potentially libellous, calling her talentless is not.
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Old 28-11-2015, 17:27
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That maybe true, but commenting saying she is gay is potentially libellous, calling her talentless is not.
Is it? I'm not sure a court has ever ruled that, actually. I can see why it might be, but I'm not sure whether it would be ruled like that.
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Old 29-11-2015, 01:52
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I think describing a few people basically saying your post is nonsense as an 'attack' is a little bit dramatic.

That maybe true, but commenting saying she is gay is potentially libellous, calling her talentless is not.
Seriously? Saying you think someone is gay could be libelous? What kind of backward society is this? Last time I checked it's 2015 and there was nothing wrong with being gay.
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Old 29-11-2015, 13:30
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Seriously? Saying you think someone is gay could be libelous?
Like I said, I think it's possible that a court might decide that, but probably only in certain circumstances.
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Old 29-11-2015, 16:56
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Like I said, I think it's possible that a court might decide that, but probably only in certain circumstances.
I'd be pretty shocked and appaulled if a court ruled that saying you think someone's not straight is libellious, I think there'd quite an outcry if that happened.
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Old 29-11-2015, 17:02
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Didn't Jason Donovan sue The Face magazine or some other rag in the early 90s for saying he was gay?
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Old 29-11-2015, 17:14
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I'd be pretty shocked and appaulled if a court ruled that saying you think someone's not straight is libellious, I think there'd quite an outcry if that happened.
I wouldnt be pleased, but given how strict British courts are with libel I wouldnt be too shocked.

Didn't Jason Donovan sue The Face magazine or some other rag in the early 90s for saying he was gay?
Early 90s attitudes to sexuality were a lot different to current ones. And if it was settled out of court then theres no precedent.
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Old 29-11-2015, 17:41
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Didn't Jason Donovan sue The Face magazine or some other rag in the early 90s for saying he was gay?
Yes and no He sued them because they claimed he was lying when he said he wasn't gay.
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Old 29-11-2015, 22:44
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Yes and no He sued them because they claimed he was lying when he said he wasn't gay.
Ah, now that's a different thing entirely. Wrongly claiming someone is lying is definitely libel.
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Old 30-11-2015, 13:19
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Tim Tebow perhaps?
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Old 30-11-2015, 16:55
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Seriously? Saying you think someone is gay could be libelous? What kind of backward society is this? Last time I checked it's 2015 and there was nothing wrong with being gay.
Of course there's nothing wrong with being gay Sulala. However if someone is straight and they're not gay then a publication hinting at the latter is printing incorrect information.
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Old 30-11-2015, 17:58
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Of course there's nothing wrong with being gay Sulala. However if someone is straight and they're not gay then a publication hinting at the latter is printing incorrect information.
To be libel though you have to prove it causes harm, not that its simply untrue.
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Old 30-11-2015, 18:14
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To be libel though you have to prove it causes harm, not that its simply untrue.
Fair point.
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Old 01-12-2015, 01:10
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Of course there's nothing wrong with being gay Sulala. However if someone is straight and they're not gay then a publication hinting at the latter is printing incorrect information.
Libellious

"containing an untrue written statement that causes people to have a bad opinion of someone"

Being gay is not a bad thing. Therefore saying you think someone is gay is not libelous. I sense some lingering uncomfortability with homosexuality in this thread. There's absolutely nothing wrong with speculating about a celebrity's sexuality, just the same as there's nothing wrong with speculating who a celebrity is dating or or if a celebrity is getting divorced or anything else.
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Old 01-12-2015, 01:31
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Seriously? Saying you think someone is gay could be libelous? What kind of backward society is this? Last time I checked it's 2015 and there was nothing wrong with being gay.
It could possibly be libellous to 'accuse' a man who is in a relationship with a woman or married of being gay ie. the implication would be that he was a liar and deceitful and living a double life.
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Old 01-12-2015, 04:02
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Libellious

"containing an untrue written statement that causes people to have a bad opinion of someone"

Being gay is not a bad thing. Therefore saying you think someone is gay is not libelous. I sense some lingering uncomfortability with homosexuality in this thread. There's absolutely nothing wrong with speculating about a celebrity's sexuality, just the same as there's nothing wrong with speculating who a celebrity is dating or or if a celebrity is getting divorced or anything else.
No being gay is no bad thing, but since Cheryl is married (twice, i think) it would mean she had lied, either to her fans, to her husbands - or both. Its not really anyones business, but shes in the public eye so people seem to think it is, so yes it could cause some people to have a bad opinion of her.

I think she, or anyone else in that position, would have to prove actual damages though.
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:12
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And proving harm in those cases would be almost impossible, I would imagine.
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:51
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Getting back on track.....

Any news on Jonathan Taylor Thomas?
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Old 01-12-2015, 13:03
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[quote=Sulala;80546329]I'd be pretty shocked and appaulled if a court ruled that saying you think someone's not straight is libellious, I think there'd quite an outcry if that happened.[/QUOTE]

No there wouldnt be an outcry. If it was said with malice it could be classed as libelous or slanderous, a lie is a lie.
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Old 01-12-2015, 15:48
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[quote=jackol;80569264]
I'd be pretty shocked and appaulled if a court ruled that saying you think someone's not straight is libellious, I think there'd quite an outcry if that happened.[/QUOTE]

No there wouldnt be an outcry. If it was said with malice it could be classed as libelous or slanderous, a lie is a lie.
You need to give it up already. Saying you think a celeb is gay isn't slander or libelous, end of. If a gay slur is used, for example, it would be hate speech, not slander or libel. Lies in and of themselves aren't slander or libel, which has been pointed out to you by other posters several times.
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Old 01-12-2015, 16:49
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Libellious

"containing an untrue written statement that causes people to have a bad opinion of someone"

Being gay is not a bad thing. Therefore saying you think someone is gay is not libelous. I sense some lingering uncomfortability with homosexuality in this thread. There's absolutely nothing wrong with speculating about a celebrity's sexuality, just the same as there's nothing wrong with speculating who a celebrity is dating or or if a celebrity is getting divorced or anything else.
I agree there is nothing wrong with speculating about sexuality. However that wasn't what you said before. You said previously this this was a thread about in the closet gay celebs. It's not. It's a speculation thread.
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Old 01-12-2015, 20:26
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Getting back on track.....

Any news on Jonathan Taylor Thomas?
If only.

Had to google Jonathon, still don't know who he is.
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Old 01-12-2015, 20:29
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If only.

Had to google Jonathon, still don't know who he is.
I'm old enough to remember
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