Was he ever in?

Lol

I suspect at least one of Britain's Got Talent's singing brothers Richard and Adam.

....and you know this how?

i think Daisiesfan is only trying to inject a little common sense.
i think you would find it harder to come up with names of people who are straight

It's been hinted at for years that his hairdresser who travels everywhere with him is his boyfriend.

Every time I see him with Doris Day. I say to myself no he can't be but alas he was. What a waste

A few years ago there was a rumour here in Ireland that Ronan Keating and Brian Kennedy had a fling.

Dear tangledweb
What dyu actually mean when you say 'what a waste' when referring to Rock Hudson being gay?

Well he was so convincing in those old movies when he was with the girl its still hard to believe. I'm not putting down the fact he was gay just that if you didn't know he was gay it was. If you know what I mean.

Surely that shows some decent talent then, if he could convincingly portray chemistry with female leads. I think it's the opposite of a waste - it shows that there's no reason why gay actors can't be cast in straight romance roles and help make the industry less closeted.

I don't understand what you mean by it being a waste, even after your explanation. A waste of what?

Pretty much, it shows he was a good actor.

I never thought that one simple comment could be made a big deal of. It's as if I had said something offensive about him I was'nt being rude just making a point that it was a waste that he had to cover up being gay as clearly as an actor and a celebrity he convinced a lot of people he was straight. Clearly he was a good actor. If I have offended anyone I apologise for it.

Well darling you certainly haven't offended me and in fact in the past some of my girlfriends when finding out a lad is gay say Oh what a waste..meaning they will never get a chance with him. I don't think they're being offensive either.

I can almost accept people saying what a waste if it is someone they know personally who they might have had a chance with had they been straight but with an actor you were never going to have a chance anyway it is a bit offensive albeit unintentional I am sure.

I suppose it's just the word 'waste' doesn't make sense in the context, perhaps 'what a shame he had to hide it' would have been clearer.

I would hardly say it's a big deal though, two people asked you to clarify, that's all.


Why would you, a straight female, be offended anyway? The phrase 'what a waste' in your friends' context can be offensive to some, given that it's not a waste as a) plenty of gay men out there to enjoy him and b) who says if he was straight he would have gone near him anyway.

Oh for Goodness sake, lighten up. I mean seriously!!No offence intended whatsoever. Stop looking for offence where none is intended.

I wasn't looking for offence with the original poster, you were the one who brought that issue up. I haven't even said I find the comment offensive.

What I was highlighting in your post is that you're straight and you weren't being spoken to so I don't see why anyone would care whether you would or wouldn't find it offensive.

Well as I don't understand your response, I reckon I'll just leave it there

I don't mean to bait, just want to clarify. If I were to read an anti-Semitic remark I could decide that it doesn't offend me, but it wouldn't really mean anything, because I'm not Jewish, therefore it's not up to me to decide that it's offensive to Jewish people.

As it stands, doesn't seem as if Tangledweb meant to be offensive, just poorly worded, hence the need for further explanation. It's just that some gay people do find that phrase quite offensive and I think it's good that if people don't realise that, they are made aware of it, especially if they are using it unintentionally.

Hope that clears it up, I don't mean to argue it out with you.

My cousin is gay and he says "tut, what a waste " when he finds out someone is straight.

It's a pretty light hearted comment and I can't imagine many folks would take offence tbh.

It's only ever been meant as a comment that the person saying it aims at their own desire to have sex with a gay person they hoped was straight. To take it any other way is just blatantly playing the "taking offence where none exists" card.

Kelly Rowland

. You understand precisely what is meant, you're just trying to make the poster feel bad for saying it. If you like someone of the opposite sex who is gay, then to them it seems a waste but then you know that don't you?

Precisely