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The Ratings Thread (Part 42)
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James J
14-11-2012
A million on +1 for IACGMOOH, very impressive. I personally hate the show, but can see why it does well I suppose. 8.8m on a Tuesday isn't anything to sniff at, though of course the usuals will anyway!

Paradise held up very well!

Don't think NAT will be that much better, it hasn't seen much of a boost irrespective of lead-in since it moved to the disgusting yellow car park set.
cylon6
14-11-2012
I'm A Celebrity fluctuates across the run based on timeslot and lead ins. The fact is it's still doing well and is way up on what ITV would usually get in those slots. Also BBC1 isn't crumbling on some nights as shows are holding up against it. BBC1 will be happy, ITV will be very happy.
Score
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I'm A Celebrity fluctuates across the run based on timeslot and lead ins. The fact is it's still doing well and is way up on what ITV would usually get in those slots. Also BBC1 isn't crumbling on some nights as shows are holding up against it. BBC1 will be happy, ITV will be very happy.”

There wasn't a Tuesday show last year in week 1 because of football but the same show 2 years ago averaged 8.6m so it is slightly up on that. Last year the Wednesday show in week 1 (no show tonight because of football) averaged 8.5m, so it does seem to now be in line with the last two years, which is terrific.
Score
14-11-2012
A couple of other numbers from yesterday, with +1 included:

The Chase - 3.55m
The Martin Lewis Money Show - 3.16m

The Chase just off an all time high. Martin Lewis' show is doing reasonably well for that slot - enough for a recommission I guess. They should give it a weekly slot next time instead of letting football constantly interrupt it.
James J
14-11-2012
ITV must be delighted with The Chase.
Ambassador
14-11-2012
I've just seen a BBC news story stating The Voice averaged 9.2m. Is that based on the blind audition? Seems awfully high
cylon6
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by Ambassador:
“I've just seen a BBC news story stating The Voice averaged 9.2m. Is that based on the blind audition? Seems awfully high”

I dispute those BBC figures for The Voice, hey're also including the results show I think. Ratings started high, went low and recovered. Saying it averaged 9.2m gives the impression that it had great ratings across the series and that isn't strictly true. But it also isn't the complete dud people say it was as the big ratings drop happened when it went out before 7pm on a very warm night.

If the BBC keep it at the 7ish time, implement the changes that benefit the US version, ditch that V Room from the main show and make live shows more fun series 2 will be a success.
lewiep93
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I dispute those BBC figures for The Voice, hey're also including the results show I think. Ratings started high, went low and recovered. Saying it averaged 9.2m gives the impression that it had great ratings across the series and that isn't strictly true. But it also isn't the complete dud people say it was as the big ratings drop happened when it went out before 7pm on a very warm night.

If the BBC keep it at the 7ish time, implement the changes that benefit the US version, ditch that V Room from the main show and make live shows more fun series 2 will be a success.”

I've literally just copied all the figures from BARB for The Voice into excel and worked out the average as 8.54m have no idea where the BBC got 9.2m from.
cylon6
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by Score:
“There wasn't a Tuesday show last year in week 1 because of football but the same show 2 years ago averaged 8.6m so it is slightly up on that. Last year the Wednesday show in week 1 (no show tonight because of football) averaged 8.5m, so it does seem to now be in line with the last two years, which is terrific.”

I'm A Celebrity is doing nicely for ITV getting 8/9m fairly consistently isn't bad going at all despite what some around here might say.
cylon6
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“I've literally just copied all the figures from BARB for The Voice into excel and worked out the average as 8.54m have no idea where the BBC got 9.2m from.”

I'm not sure either. It was some funky maths to show the press i The Voice was doing well when it ended with lower ratings than it began with.
dave01
14-11-2012
Tape checked DS:

7.00pm - Emmerdale - 7.06m (32.3%) [+1 183k]
7:30pm - Eastenders - 7.47m (33.3%) [+3 422k]
8.00pm - Holby City - 4.79m (20.5%)

8.00pm - 40 Years on Coronation Street - Deirdre and Me - 2.87m (12.4%) [+1 154k]


I think ITV are doing too many of these Corrie/Emmerdale documentaries now. I appreciate they are probably cheap to produce and thus profitable, but there's just too many of them!
KennyT
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“I've literally just copied all the figures from BARB for The Voice into excel and worked out the average as 8.54m have no idea where the BBC got 9.2m from.”

perhaps they're including iPlayer viewings?

e.g. From May 12:

The Voice UK Live Show 2 Episode 9 895,000
The Voice UK Live Show 3 Episode 11 794,000
The Voice UK The Semi-Final Episode 15 763,000
The Voice UK Live Show 4 Episode 13 731,000

K
James J
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by dave01:
“Tape checked DS:

7.00pm - Emmerdale - 7.06m (32.3%) [+1 183k]
7:30pm - Eastenders - 7.47m (33.3%) [+3 422k]
8.00pm - Holby City - 4.79m (20.5%)

8.00pm - 40 Years on Coronation Street - Deirdre and Me - 2.87m (12.4%) [+1 154k]


I think ITV are doing too many of these Corrie/Emmerdale documentaries now. I appreciate they are probably cheap to produce and thus profitable, but there's just too many of them!”

I don't think it's entirely unwarranted to make a documentary for someone who has been in a show for 40 years. Hardly a trivial achievement....

Not a great figure for it, mind.

Emmerdale still snapping at EastEnders' heels.
Dancc
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by dave01:
“8.00pm - 40 Years on Coronation Street - Deirdre and Me - 2.87m (12.4%) [+1 154k]

I think ITV are doing too many of these Corrie/Emmerdale documentaries now. I appreciate they are probably cheap to produce and thus profitable, but there's just too many of them!”

Agreed. Poor rating as well. They might have got away with it in a less competitive slot, but the point still stands that they should be aiming higher.

MasterChef: The Professionals on BBC Two breezed past ITV1 as a result.
derek500
14-11-2012
What happened to the last episode of Sky 1's Strike Back?

The first nine episodes performed consistently, picking up near the end of the run:-

770k, 749k, 725k, 693k, 751k, 736k, 885k, 849k, 821k,

Yet the last episode didn't even make Sky1's top ten, so less than 389k!!!

Surely a mistake?
Hassaan13
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by Score:
“A couple of other numbers from yesterday, with +1 included:

The Chase - 3.55m
The Martin Lewis Money Show - 3.16m

The Chase just off an all time high. Martin Lewis' show is doing reasonably well for that slot - enough for a recommission I guess. They should give it a weekly slot next time instead of letting football constantly interrupt it.”

What exactly is the all time high for The Chase? Is it the 2nd November 2012 edition which had 3.3m inc HD in the officials?
sn_22
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“I've literally just copied all the figures from BARB for The Voice into excel and worked out the average as 8.54m have no idea where the BBC got 9.2m from.”

In the article, it says "including catch-up figures", so I assume they're using the BBC Live +7 metric, which includes iPlayer.

I’ve said before we ought to be careful about writing The Voice off. The tanking of the live shows was certainly dramatic, but in a way the show became a victim of it’s own success and hype. I don't think we should write off the figures of the first few weeks just because of what happened then. Or overlook that a finale in the 8m region is likely what many envisaged before the show began.

There were lots of well documented issues with the live shows, but many (or indeed most) are fixable second time round, if enough thought and effort has gone into it. The scheduling was also a huge issue and I think getting off air before 'May Madness' hits has to be a priority.
James J
14-11-2012
Monroe axed.

No surprise, was a lamb to the slaughter against New Tricks.
sn_22
14-11-2012
The Paradise held up very well at 9pm for its final episode. I suppose it had viewers strapped in after 7 weeks who weren't going to desert it now - even still, its impressive. It's no smash hit, but pretty much the only bright spot in a poor autumn for new shows. Well worth it's recommission and another tryout.

IAC did very well considering it had to self-start last night thanks to a poor pre-watershed schedule. Mondays are inevitably easier with a direct Corrie lead-in.
ftv
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by dave01:
“Tape checked DS:

7.00pm - Emmerdale - 7.06m (32.3%) [+1 183k]
7:30pm - Eastenders - 7.47m (33.3%) [+3 422k]
8.00pm - Holby City - 4.79m (20.5%)

8.00pm - 40 Years on Coronation Street - Deirdre and Me - 2.87m (12.4%) [+1 154k]


I think ITV are doing too many of these Corrie/Emmerdale documentaries now. I appreciate they are probably cheap to produce and thus profitable, but there's just too many of them!”

Don't forget the Holby figure includes River City in Scotland which is around 400,000.
rivkin
14-11-2012
shame same amount of viewers that watch reality shows cant tune into good dramas then more dramas would be on tv instead of being axed like monroe and avoid poor ratings like hunted on bbc
RobbieSykes123
14-11-2012
All this analysis of a BBC Press Release because The Voice averaged 0.5m less than they said.

Yet lies from the ITV Press Office and Jenny Cummins pass by each day without comment....
RobbieSykes123
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by dave01:
“Tape checked DS:

7.00pm - Emmerdale - 7.06m (32.3%) [+1 183k]
7:30pm - EastYes, enders - 7.47m (33.3%) [+3 422k]
8.00pm - Holby City - 4.79m (20.5%)

8.00pm - 40 Years on Coronation Street - Deirdre and Me - 2.87m (12.4%) [+1 154k]


I think ITV are doing too many of these Corrie/Emmerdale documentaries now. I appreciate they are probably cheap to produce and thus profitable, but there's just too many of them!”

Yes, the number of Corrie barrel scraping spin off flops continues to grow. At least it's something at ITV that is growing....
Mike Teevee
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“All this analysis of a BBC Press Release because The Voice averaged 0.5m less than they said.

Yet lies from the ITV Press Office and Jenny Cummins pass by each day without comment.... ”

enlighten me, I genuinely don't know what you're talking about
C14E
14-11-2012
The 16m IAC figure was a reach figure provided to Nadine Dorries who went off and repeated it and has since been frequently quoted. Had there been an ITV press release using their "own metrics" that said it got an average audience of 16m then there'd be plenty of comment. But there wasn't. It's not like there has been condemnation of the figure the BBC have pulled out for The Voice, but it's not unreasonable that a small number of posts have quickly worked out where they got it from. I think we're all used to press offices of all broadcasters coming up with things to try and inflate the numbers or make them look better than they are.
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