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The Ratings Thread (Part 42)
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Charnham
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by welshfoxy:
“If I had a large sum of money and were willing to bet it, I'd certainly wager that a relaunch of The Big Breakfast on ITV would pull in more than Daybreak. And would probably be on the same level budget wise, or perhaps even lower. The Big Breakfast was of course axed, but these are different times. At its worst it was probably better than half of the stuff we get fed now. I suspect a lot of its young audience who are now in their 30s/40s would be feeling very nostalgic and receptive to something alternative and loud in the morning.
Am I right in saying that ITV own the rights to The Big Breakfast?

Daybreak, GMTV, that whole operation is dead. They need a completely different direction now.”

really? I cant see it happening.

Quite what ITV do now however is a mystery, all they can hope now, is (as already mentioned) make a GMTV like show, make it good, and hope it doesn't loose anymore viewers.

That or hire Becky Fuller
welshfoxy
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“really? I cant see it happening.

Quite what ITV do now however is a mystery, all they can hope now, is (as already mentioned) make a GMTV like show, make it good, and hope it doesn't loose anymore viewers.

That or hire Becky Fuller ”

I can't see it happening either but is it such a crazy idea, considering? There is obviously no creativity at ITV or Daybreak, so might as well!
Charnham
26-10-2012
whilst unoriginal ideas are very ITV, I just dont see The Big Breakfast as ITV. Also ive yet to really see a show be revived based on people liking it when they were young, be mega successful, expect maybe Doctor Who. You need to program for today, not the nostalgia of today.

Personally I think the next title will start with a #
Jonwo
26-10-2012
Hatfields and McCoy did fine, I wasn't expecting huge figures simply because it was 2 hours long and Westerns aren't a big pull, it was decent enough but it'll interesting whether it'll remain over the 1m mark. I'm sort of surprised how it did in the US but maybe it's more familiar source material over there than it is even with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton.
welshfoxy
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“whilst unoriginal ideas are very ITV, I just dont see The Big Breakfast as ITV. Also ive yet to really see a show be revived based on people liking it when they were young, be mega successful, expect maybe Doctor Who. You need to program for today, not the nostalgia of today.

Personally I think the next title will start with a #”

It's breakfast television, and they're desperate. They clearly have no clue what to do. I wasn't even a fan of The BB, I'm just saying.

Ha I look forward to that one Can well see it. Yet another ITV **** up then.
Charnham
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by welshfoxy:
“It's breakfast television, and they're desperate. They clearly have no clue what to do. I wasn't even a fan of The BB, I'm just saying.

Ha I look forward to that one Can well see it. Yet another ITV **** up then.”

thinking about it, I know what ITV will do next. #RI:SE
Glenn A
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“thinking about it, I know what ITV will do next. #RI:SE ”

Why not rehire Nick Owen, Anne Diamond and Jimmy Greaves and call it TV-AM with the name Good Morning Britiain I think this show worked well some years ago,
ftv
26-10-2012
I doubt Messrs Jones and Kelly will still be there at Christmas
Charnham
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Why not rehire Nick Owen, Anne Diamond and Jimmy Greaves and call it TV-AM with the name Good Morning Britiain I think this show worked well some years ago,”

I suspect that they are most likely too old to be getting up at 3am, 5 days a week.
welshfoxy
26-10-2012
Get Ant & Dec back on breakfast TV. About time they earnt their keep.
Wynne Evans
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Love the way you always refer to TV execs just by their surnames. Are you one of Harry Enfield's 'Self-Righteous Brothers'?

"Oi, Newman, NO......"”

Harry Enfield oh yukk.

I had a part posh/part state education, the surname thing is a hangover and I never refer to first names unless I know/met them personally.

Back on topic, while I don't see why the BBC should actively chase ratings and it goes against the grain for me to say this but in a way they have too in order to justify to a degree their television output.
Glenn A
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I suspect that they are most likely too old to be getting up at 3am, 5 days a week.”

Probably but it was a winning format, the right mixture betwween light and serious, just like ITV was so good at in the eighties.
Charnham
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Probably but it was a winning format, the right mixture betwween light and serious, just like ITV was so good at in the eighties.”

I liked wearing nappies in the mid 80s, does not mean I should start doing so now.

No real point bringing back anything if you dont have the presenters to back it up. You can call it #TV:AM all you like, but you would need to get the right presenters.
Wynne Evans
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by FallingPiano:
“So it's alright to include an airing an hour after original transmission, but not for a repeat two hours after? What bizarre logic.”

A plus channel can be counted as it is effectively a main channel but an hour later hence why I have no probs with ITV plus one, Three is a different channel with a different demographic reach therefore it should not be included, if for instance I did agree with the inclusion of all that days showings of say EE,Corrie & Emmerdale then with plus one and the repast showings on the ITV channels then the ITV pair would be way ahead of EE.

If Three's EE ratings are to be consolidated into the main data then its entirely acceptable to consolidate ALL Corrie/Emmerdales ratings regardless of the channel they aired on.
welshfoxy
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I liked wearing nappies in the mid 80s, does not mean I should start doing so now.

No real point bringing back anything if you dont have the presenters to back it up. You can call it #TV:AM all you like, but you would need to get the right presenters.”

Chris Moyles is available

Seriously can you imagine if ITV 'brought back' his radio show, only with live streaming on ITV and for all purposes it was exactly like the radio show. I suspect it would do better than Daybreak.
Charnham
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by welshfoxy:
“Chris Moyles is available

Seriously can you imagine if ITV 'brought back' his radio show, only with live streaming on ITV and for all purposes it was exactly like the radio show. I suspect it would do better than Daybreak.”

would ITV allow him to go on any rants that may upset the sponsors? Still that is about ITVs creative level.
welshfoxy
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“would ITV allow him to go on any rants that may upset the sponsors? Still that is about ITVs creative level.”

Chris Moyles has more creativity in his thumb than Daybreak/GMTV have in total. Apologies if this is a not so fashionable thing to say.

P.S. I do not approve of DS making money from me typing 'fashionable'.
Mitch 123
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“All this talk of "sub-8m EE"....


Overnights are increasingly irrelevant, as I have pointed out once or twice.
.”

I will remember that the next time you bash ITV/X Factor
SamuelW
26-10-2012
GeorgeS mentioned on the other thread that Itv4 had its best primetime ever yesterday, 1.5million average for football from 5.30pm:
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/inside-itv...rsdays-Ratings
Quote:
“Last night, ITV4 had its highest prime time share of any day ever. UEFA Europa League Live: Maribor v Tottenham Hotspur followed by Liverpool v Anzhi Makhachkala (17:30 - 22:34) drew in an audience of 1.5m and a 7.2% share. This was the channel's highest audience for any programme since April 2009.”

EXCELLENT NEWS!!!”

jake lyle
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by Mitch 123:
“I will remember that the next time you bash ITV/X Factor ”

Not really as timeshifts are generally irrelevent to advertisers/ITV. Barb figures even strip out the ad breaks.
LW09
26-10-2012
Does anyone have any figures for Daybreak lately? It started around 600k but I haven't heard anything since. Is it still around that/dropped/increased? Would be interesting to know, especially to see if people are jumping the gun a little bit about the editor leaving and planning the next relaunch 8 weeks after the last one.
mlt11
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“GeorgeS mentioned on the other thread that Itv4 had its best primetime ever yesterday, 1.5million average for football from 5.30pm:”

That's a fantastic average for 5 hours from 5.30pm.

Wonder what the match average was for the Liverpool game (ie 8.05pm to 9.55pm) - I imagine approaching 2.5m.

Continuation of trend of strong ITV4 football ratings going hand in hand with weak ITV1 ones as discussed a few weeks ago.

One other thing it highlights is the very good value ITV has got for the Europa League contract. With BT on the scene next time I wonder if ITV will be able to retain as much as they have or whether some / all will end up moving to BT (and / or Sky - if BT outbid Sky for some / all CL then Sky could easily turn attention to EL).
Andy23
26-10-2012
Originally Posted by LW09:
“Does anyone have any figures for Daybreak lately? It started around 600k but I haven't heard anything since. Is it still around that/dropped/increased? Would be interesting to know, especially to see if people are jumping the gun a little bit about the editor leaving and planning the next relaunch 8 weeks after the last one.”

700k versus 1.5m for Breakfast, same as it's been for years pretty much.

Yet again the thread has just desolved into an ITV bashing session lead by the usual suspects.

I don't know why people here want Daybreak to be axed. The ONLY alternative is repeats of normal programmes, resulting in no breakfast show at all. For an example of this see Channel 4. They'd be better off just carrying on as they are with 700k.

By the way, when did Robbie or Samuel start working at The Guardian? The article mentions how Daybreak fell to a low of 300k last January. Wasn't that on Bank Holiday Monday?!
Glenn A
26-10-2012
The quiet success recently has been All Star Mr and Mrs, which is creeping towards 5 million. Derek Batey would be delighted his old show is doing well and nice to see the ghost of Border Television in peak time.
Hassaan13
26-10-2012
Why haven't the officials for ITV1 for w/e 14th October been released yet?

And what will they do for BGT next year with the separate results shows? The shows haven't peaked any higher than 11m since they've made it a separate show, compared to the highs of 2009 it doesn't seem to do any justice. The first 15 minutes of the half-an-hour show is filler, guests etc.

In terms of XF, there wasn't really a 'shock' result last week, what's the chance we will see a slight (positive) change?
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