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the bbc has a lot more ratings hits on when xfactor is on itv such as dr who, merlin, antiques roadshow,
itv seems to lack any shows to screen when strictly is on that would pull in anything above 5 million etc although no other channels seem to bother either so is the reason stricty doing better this year simply down to lack of any challange on any other channel. is the lack of shows against strictly down to the fact advertisers dont want there adverts on against the biggest bbc shows and therefore there is a lack of money to invest or is it simply because there isnt anything to put up against it at all?? its clear the bbc is in a stronger position being licence fee funded to take more risks against advert channels where advert channels have to save there best for after or before bbc biggest shows. bbcs best night apart from sat seems to be tue night as once again lack of any real challange from any other channel, so is the bbc just ahead in ratings on thoes nights simply through lack of challange and not the quality of whats on offer as it seems advert channels worse night all year has been tuesday nights. |
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Does Rod Stewart always celebrate his Christmas so early?
9th December? Most folk won't even have their trimmings up by then! |
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These rare all day postings show what a millstone the kids shows have been for BBC1, and what a shot in the arm being rid of them will be for BBC1's overall share.Panorama had a shocker last night. Must have been niche if it sent regular Pano viewers scurrying for the comfort of the Rovers....
![]() In fact I think you have understated it, which is as rare as an all day posting
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Goodness, there really are some awful sounding shows coming up aren't there! Goodnight Britain, Britain's Hidden Housing Crisis, and Pensioners Behind Bars - they all sound dreadful. I know everyone has digital now so there's loads of choice, but you'd think BBC1 in particular would put more effort in, in the run up to Christmas seeing as they are a leading broadcaster.
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Yes, worth noting how strong BBC Two's night was. The 8pm combo of University Challenge and Masterchef is hugely reliable and a well-promoted documentary series giving BBC One a very good run for the money afterwards.
BBC One's line-up till Christmas looks largely shocking - so we could see plenty more close-run things over the next few weeks. I don't understand how difficult the channel seems to find planning ahead so things finish just on time at Christmas, without requiring weeks of padding. Very poor. Ridiculous to promo something in August that you won't air till January. It has clearly been pushed back. |
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Goodness, there really are some awful sounding shows coming up aren't there! Goodnight Britain, Britain's Hidden Housing Crisis, and Pensioners Behind Bars - they all sound dreadful. I know everyone has digital now so there's loads of choice, but you'd think BBC1 in particular would put more effort in, in the run up to Christmas seeing as they are a leading broadcaster.
Perhaps not repeating it is the preferred tactic on this one!
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No point plugging his album when there's no time left before Christmas to buy it.
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Well done NBC! http://www.deadline.com/2012/11/nbc-...ps-since-2003/ Quote:
It’s been nine long years but NBC’s primetime lineup has made the network number one in this year’s November sweeps. “This is the first time we’ve been this happy in a long time,” said NBC Entertainment Chairman Bob Greenblatt today. “It is possible to move the needle. There is a spring in our step,” he added. When NBC last topped the November sweeps back in 2003, it was showing The West Wing, Friends and ER. Now, with 25 of 28 nights counted, NBC has moved up from last year’s fourth spot to first place. The network is averaging a 2.8 rating this fall, up 17% compared to the network’s 2.4 at the conclusion the November 2011 sweep. The sweep started on October 25 and finishes tomorrow.
Among the four networks, NBC saw its adults 18-49 and Live + Same Day 18-49 go up from last year while CBS, ABC and Fox all went down. Fox went from the top spot of 3.1 to number three with 2.4. That’s down 26%. CBS went from 2.8 to second place this November sweep with 2.4, down 14%. ABC went from 2.5 last year to fourth place this year with 2.2, down 12%. Coming off the summer lead-in of the Olympics, the continuing success of Sunday Night Football and The Voice, plus strong numbers for the new Revolution and Go On, has left NBC solid week after week. With the absence of football, The Voice and Revolution in the next three months, Greenblatt said in a conference call on Tuesday that he anticipates a drop-off. “I’d be astonished if we ended up to be number one with some of the firepower the other networks have,” said Greenblatt, “third place would be a triumph for us but beyond that I’m not willing to go there yet.” The NBC executive said today that there are plans in development to keep Revolution alive during the break with original content that could possibly end up online or some other digital platform. “We’re feeling a sense of relief and excitement about what is to come,” said Greenblatt about the new year. |
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Does Rod Stewart always celebrate his Christmas so early?
9th December? Most folk won't even have their trimmings up by then! |
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Just looking through Digiguide at the schedules for the next few weeks leading upto Christmas and BBC1 in some key slots looks hopelessly thin. It looks as if they've just run out of money at the end of the year!
The next three Monday's are filled with New Tricks repeats; Wednesday has Goodnight Britain, War on Britain's Roads and Traffic Cops; Thursday has Goodnight Britain; Who Do You Think You Are? and Britain's Hidden Housing Crisis. Really quite poor for what used to be a time chock-a-block full of treats to get you through what is of course the darkest time of the year. Sunday nights are not hugely better, Crickley Hall was originally meant for Halloween. And Friday after HIGNFY looks like filler after Me and Mrs Smith is done too (John Bishop's Big Year for two weeks which sounds more suited for Christmas then it's Live at the Apollo). The schedule is crying out for Ripper Street quite frankly. Terrible scheduling. Plus there's no point in sticking on good stuff on next week cos I'm A Celebrity is still on. Quote:
I agree, BBC2 aren't much better either, they should be taking advantage of this by showing some of the promising drama they've got available. From the excellent drama trailer that was released a couple of months ago, only Parade's End and The Hour have aired. They also seem to be burning off the last episode of The Hour, it's on both Wednesday 12th and Thursday 13th.
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Monday 19th November Overnights
BBC One 19:00- The One Show: 4.87m (21.9%) 19:30- Inside Out: 3.67m (15.7%) 20:00- EastEnders: 8.02m (32.5%) 20:30- Panorama: 1.88m (7.4%) 21:00- Richard Hammond's Miracles of Nature: 2.39m (9.4%) ITV1 19:00- Emmerdale: 7.39m (33.1%) , +1: 127k (0.5%) 19:30- Coronation Street: 8.97m (38.4%) , +1: 178k (0.7%) 20:00- Little England: 3.38m (13.7%) 20:30- Coronation Street: 9.21m (35.7%) , +1: 169k (0.7%) 21:00- I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here!: 9.43m (38.8%) , +1: 379k (2.3%) I'm a Celeb continues to do well. BBC1 was really low at 9pm, that would be less than 2m translated to an ITV1 figure. Panorama seems to be going through a bad patch as well, it's never often high but it seems to be less than 2m a lot lately. Is it just a string of inaccessible topics or is the old favourite heading for a revamp. |
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09 – 11.99m – THE VOICE UK (14/04/12) – BBC 1/HD
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As for a new reality format...the recent feature on CIN wasn't it where someone sang side by side with holograms of Morecambe and Wise shows an option.
This looked visually amazing and cleverly saw interaction with the holograms to make a sort of mini new act. A talent show where people are asked to perform alongside holograms of deceased singers, comedians etc and create a new routine interacting with them would be intriguing TV. I wonder what happened to Pros vs Cons, the series BBC1 were piloting when they taught someone a skill and you had to guess which one was the professional. Quote:
22:00- Never Mind The Buzzcocks: 1.29m (6.7%) inc HD
22:00- 8 Out of 10 Cats: 1.10m (6.4%) , +1: 164k (1.9%) Quote:
Just looking through Digiguide at the schedules for the next few weeks leading upto Christmas and BBC1 in some key slots looks hopelessly thin. It looks as if they've just run out of money at the end of the year!
The next three Monday's are filled with New Tricks repeats; Wednesday has Goodnight Britain, War on Britain's Roads and Traffic Cops; Thursday has Goodnight Britain; Who Do You Think You Are? and Britain's Hidden Housing Crisis. Really quite poor for what used to be a time chock-a-block full of treats to get you through what is of course the darkest time of the year. |
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Any Royal Bodyguard re-runs coming up, to aid the DVD sales?
Perhaps not repeating it is the preferred tactic on this one! ![]() Quote:
A Rod Stewart greatest hits album sounds like something you'd buy en route to your mums from a petrol station on Christmas morning, so the later the better on that one, surely?
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Thanks rzt for the Breakfast show ratings. Surprising how well BBC Breakfast performs on Saturdays
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The British Comedy Awards 2012 will screen on Channel 4 on Wednesday 12th December at 9pm.
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Digiguide changed again it's now :
Saturday 8 December BBC One 18:00 Pointless 18:50 Strictly Come Dancing 19:55 Merlin 20:40 The National Lottery Awards 21:20 Casualty 22:10 BBC News 22:30 Match of the Day ITV1 18:30 You've Been Framed 19:00 The McFly Show 20:00 The X Factor Final 22:00 Film: The Invention of Lying * although I don't think this is right - where is the News ? Sunday 9 December BBC One 18:00 Countryfile 19:00 Strictly Come Dancing 19:40 Antiques Roadshow 20:40 Rome's Lost Empire 22:00 BBC News ITV1 18:40 Who Wants to be a Millionaire ? - Panto Special 19:40 The X Factor Final 21:40 Rod Stewart Christmas Special 22:55 ITV News Quote:
Amazing turnaround from 1st to 4th, though be interesting to see if they can maintain that over the year with their three biggest hits now off air for 3-4 months. Makes you wonder though whether ITV can ever topple BBC1 - but until they find the shows to build weeknights around that's not going to happen. To be fair at weekends love them or loathe them ITV do have a fairly solid reliable schedule with shows viewers know to expect - we already know where Dancing on Ice, BGT, The X Factor and Downton will all air next year, but couldn't really pencil in the first week of January for weeknights at 9pm, never mind the full year. Apart from the soaps, Champions League, BGT finals week and 3 weeks of I'm a Celeb their weeknight schedule is pretty much a blank canvas with no hooks which guarantee an audience for themselves on certain nights at certain points of the year. |
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Does Rod Stewart always celebrate his Christmas so early?
9th December? Most folk won't even have their trimmings up by then! Corrie airs Thurs. 13th at 8:30 according to the ITV Press Office spoilers, maybe it'll air on consecutive Thursdays to make up for the episodes it loses to Text Santa. Good to see Channel 5 picking up some Irish drama, they should try and get their hands on Love/Hate (16 eps. would cover 1st 3 series) Series 3 is doing brilliantly at the mo. Ep. 1 got 631k(34%) and ep. 2 got 670k (36%), beating IAC on TV3. Up 500k on last season's average. I think STV are showing it early next year though. Inception aired last Wed. on RTE(don't know what UK channel has that) and How To Train Your Dragon airs Sat. Can't believe no UK channel has showed The Dark Knight yet, TV3 aired it ages ago. Still no sign of EastEnders' missing episode. Maybe Boxing Day will count. Likely to air 6 episodes xmas week, 5 if they don't split the xmas day one which I hope they do. Same day last year Emmerdale: 7.71m Corrie: 9.15m / 9.75m EastEnders: 8.61m all soaps down y-o-y. Thanks rzt for the comprehensive roundup and the official averages for the soaps. |
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Still no sign of EastEnders' missing episode. Maybe Boxing Day will count. Likely to air 6 episodes xmas week, 5 if they don't split the xmas day one which I hope they do.
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Corrie airs Thurs. 13th at 8:30 according to the ITV Press Office spoilers, maybe it'll air on consecutive Thursdays to make up for the episodes it loses to Text Santa.
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Clearly they are holding over planned autumn programmes for the winter season. Ripper Street was one of the 6 new autumn drama series and was "coming soon" in the post Olympics trailer.
Ridiculous to promo something in August that you won't air till January. It has clearly been pushed back.
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Some people already have their xmas trees up
Corrie airs Thurs. 13th at 8:30 according to the ITV Press Office spoilers, maybe it'll air on consecutive Thursdays to make up for the episodes it loses to Text Santa. Good to see Channel 5 picking up some Irish drama, they should try and get their hands on Love/Hate (16 eps. would cover 1st 3 series) Series 3 is doing brilliantly at the mo. Ep. 1 got 631k(34%) and ep. 2 got 670k (36%), beating IAC on TV3. Up 500k on last season's average. I think STV are showing it early next year though. Inception aired last Wed. on RTE(don't know what UK channel has that) and How To Train Your Dragon airs Sat. Can't believe no UK channel has showed The Dark Knight yet, TV3 aired it ages ago. Still no sign of EastEnders' missing episode. Maybe Boxing Day will count. Likely to air 6 episodes xmas week, 5 if they don't split the xmas day one which I hope they do. Same day last year Emmerdale: 7.71m Corrie: 9.15m / 9.75m EastEnders: 8.61m all soaps down y-o-y. Thanks rzt for the comprehensive roundup and the official averages for the soaps. Last night it was 1.3m behind. Are people perhaps getting a bit over excited? |
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It used to be that ITV could use the slot between the two X Factor shows on a Saturday. Because viewers were hanging around it meant stuff like All Star Family Fortunes could do 7m on occasion. In 2008 The Girls Aloud Party made it into the yearly top 20 with an 8m+ rating. The stuff that followed the results - Afterlife, Parkinson - never did particuarly well from what I recall. These days with Strictly taking a more central position and X Factor going later, they don't have many options on Saturday nights. Sundays have become the key slot but that's pretty much sealed off for Downton and I'm A Celebrity. In recent years with the finals they've used specials - most notably The Susan Boyle Story in 2009 which worked a treat. But the truth is that they don't have much that would benefit from a run out after X Factor. The aim is usually just to maximise their audience on the night and TSBS did that incredibly well. Quote:
itv seems to lack any shows to screen when strictly is on that would pull in anything above 5 million etc although no other channels seem to bother either so is the reason stricty doing better this year simply down to lack of any challange on any other channel.
is the lack of shows against strictly down to the fact advertisers dont want there adverts on against the biggest bbc shows and therefore there is a lack of money to invest or is it simply because there isnt anything to put up against it at all?? The top shows on TV can get 3-4m in that demographic. Whereas a top "young" show might only hope to achieve 1-2m 16-34's. What ITV have done with Take Me Out is field a show which can still provide an audience for advertisers. Because it skews so young, it can take the hit in total viewers and still be valuable. On several occasions it has beaten Strictly among 16-34's. My guess is that the majority of the 1.5m-2m decline for Take Me Out is coming from non 16-34's (although Strictly is still significant there so there will be some impact). Basically, whatever ITV do against Strictly, they're not going to get a huge audience. Their best hope is maybe 5m. So they've gone for a more targeted approach. In turn, this probably helps Strictly a bit. |
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The most amazing thing about this list is that's still there. It wasn't even episode one. Unlikely to stay in the top ten for much longer, though, I feel.
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Good to see Channel 5 picking up some Irish drama, they should try and get their hands on Love/Hate (16 eps. would cover 1st 3 series) Series 3 is doing brilliantly at the mo. Ep. 1 got 631k(34%) and ep. 2 got 670k (36%), beating IAC on TV3. Up 500k on last season's average.
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What's wrong with programmes going out in January and February? That's when ratings will be at their highest, particularly if it's a bad winter. Did you not see the ratings that Sherlock and Call The Midwife attracted at the start of the year?
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I can see Channel 4 doing well with Elf repeat, I'm surprised Channel 5 hasn't nab the rights when Channel 4's rights expire.
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Itv have failed to be nominated for Channel of the Year in Broadcast awards, rounding off what has been a weak year for the broadcaster. Sky1 were nominated instead of Itv1 for their contributions to television in the last year.
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