Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Interestingly BGT being well down on 2009, about the same as XF last year, doesn't appear that much of a deal. I think the main thing that seems to be the issue is the fact the separate results show is no more than a guest, the results and of course recapping the performances. I wouldn't say the scheduling would be the issue as in 2008, BGT could get 11m for a semi-final running from 9-10:30, but the fact quite a bit of time is wasted. They could slot in a 'group performance' similar to what is done on XF or at least something which'll pull in decent audiences. The five-minute peak for the final has sort of gone down each year since 2009. In 2010 it was 14.14m (57.3%) (nearer to 15m with HD included), in 2011 it was 14.05m (55.35%), 14.4m including +1, and this year it was 13.78m (52.7%), 14.49m (55.4%) including +1 (quite a high +1 audience).
Considering each performance show is 90 minutes long, if they scheduled it at 6:30 running to 8, then half an hour later they had the 30 minute results show, would that work (then finishing at 9)? This year it was having below 9m for the semi-finals, same for XF this year for most of the series, but it managed to grow upon the final. Strictly was beating XF quite a lot last year, but its peak of 13.3m (51.4%) was well down on XF's peak of 15.3m (49.5%). I don't have a clue as to what it'll peak at this year, at this rate I think we'll be seeing something similar to BGT's final rating. One Direction, however (pains me to say this), their appearance last year pushed the show ahead a bit, at the end of the series it was the second highest rated episode (that results show), first being the second part of the final, even beating the first part of it. Including HD, it had 13.25m in the consolidated's, the final having 13.46m. The first part of the final wasn't even the highest rated Saturday of the series (which turned out to be the show with the 'power cut' and starting 15 minutes late, with 12.28m).
If we knock off 10% of last years final (both shows), we'd be seeing:
9.82m (37.4%) and a peak of 10.56m (39.04%)
11.79m (40.7%) and a peak of 13.74m (44.51%)”
“Interestingly BGT being well down on 2009, about the same as XF last year, doesn't appear that much of a deal. I think the main thing that seems to be the issue is the fact the separate results show is no more than a guest, the results and of course recapping the performances. I wouldn't say the scheduling would be the issue as in 2008, BGT could get 11m for a semi-final running from 9-10:30, but the fact quite a bit of time is wasted. They could slot in a 'group performance' similar to what is done on XF or at least something which'll pull in decent audiences. The five-minute peak for the final has sort of gone down each year since 2009. In 2010 it was 14.14m (57.3%) (nearer to 15m with HD included), in 2011 it was 14.05m (55.35%), 14.4m including +1, and this year it was 13.78m (52.7%), 14.49m (55.4%) including +1 (quite a high +1 audience).
Considering each performance show is 90 minutes long, if they scheduled it at 6:30 running to 8, then half an hour later they had the 30 minute results show, would that work (then finishing at 9)? This year it was having below 9m for the semi-finals, same for XF this year for most of the series, but it managed to grow upon the final. Strictly was beating XF quite a lot last year, but its peak of 13.3m (51.4%) was well down on XF's peak of 15.3m (49.5%). I don't have a clue as to what it'll peak at this year, at this rate I think we'll be seeing something similar to BGT's final rating. One Direction, however (pains me to say this), their appearance last year pushed the show ahead a bit, at the end of the series it was the second highest rated episode (that results show), first being the second part of the final, even beating the first part of it. Including HD, it had 13.25m in the consolidated's, the final having 13.46m. The first part of the final wasn't even the highest rated Saturday of the series (which turned out to be the show with the 'power cut' and starting 15 minutes late, with 12.28m).
If we knock off 10% of last years final (both shows), we'd be seeing:
9.82m (37.4%) and a peak of 10.56m (39.04%)
11.79m (40.7%) and a peak of 13.74m (44.51%)”
ITV News is on at 6.30, there is no way that BGT would air then on a weeknight near summer as the vieing would go down at least 2 million.
I don't know why we don't hear that BGT is in crisis every day in May/June perhaps because it doens't really have Strictly to compare to. Or maybe because the Susan Boyle year was a one off, whereas in X Factor Series 7 achieved the same ratings as Series 6 so not a one off. Plus there is probably a consensus that if they showed it 8.30-10pm (or 9-10.30pm) each night with no seperate results show it would probably do better. However ITV have now decided to make it 2 hours a night, to get more revenue and believe stripping Corrie at 9pm makes an event out of it and improves the whole schedule.
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