Young Apprentice, will probably timeshift by a million or two. What did Russell Howard's Good News get?

Looking at the officials, it didn't seem to get to that 4m figure between October-December. I haven't seen the daytime version in the top 30 at all, 'Pointless Celebrities' has been there quite a lot.

Great figure for The Chase, it should easily make 4m if it keeps growing at this rate.

Oh dear what a shame, Fox must be starting to get itchy about that 3rd series renewal right around now.

Has it ever been known for a show in the USA to be renewed and then axed a few weeks later because of poor ratings?

I'm talking about Broadchurch which has obviously been ''inspired'' by The Killing


Oh dear God Borgen will be next.

Part of the reason they will have renewed it when they did would have been because they knew this was likely to happen and announcing it early would put to bed any questions.

I actually thought next week we'd see where it has levelled out but next week there are special episodes of The Voice on Wednesday and Thursday so it won't be much better.

Because it's not "like for like" scheduling (plus halloween on Wednesday) it's difficult to determine just how much the baseball mess has cost them. But I'm sure it's a significant amount.

What makes you say that? It doesn't normally. The series opener last year added 750k on timeshift.

I would presume that because of iPlayer being added on Sky boxes now etc.

Oh ... you mean like Monroe was ''inspired'' by House?

Like Homefront was ''inspired'' by Prisoners' Wives?

Like Downton Abbey was ''inspired'' by Upstairs, Downstairs?

is the report true that catchphrase the revamped version is set for itv2 not itv1 or as it will be called then itv

I have not seen any reports but I presume ITV will want good ratings, so its very likely to be on ITV1.

Here's the Guardian's report of the revival. Sounds like an ITV1 programme to me.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...hrase-gameshow

Oh dear, the Haitus really didn't do it any good at all and the people who watched weren't overwhelming positive so I can't see them not watching the Voice if they're after a signing show on a Thursday night.
Fair Play to NBC, they came out fighting for this season of The Voice, kneecapped any curiousity surrounding Britney and sucessfully launched new scripted shows using its lead in completely turning their autumn around.
If (and its a big IF if those ratings don't improve) XFUS returns, Britney and her astronomical wage bill will be fired, the budget scaled back and it'll be left to see out the contract but US TV is mercenary, and if it hits a 2.0 or under (which is possible looking at Live Show decline last year) expect plans for season 3 to be axed. (And cue ITV doing a little dance that Simon can be back for our one )

Young Apprentice rating is poor, I doubt Lord Sugar will be boasting about that figure on his Twitter.

It will be partially facing I'm a Celeb in a few weeks so will be in trouble, assuming I'm a Celeb is a hit as usual.

Thursday 1st November 2012 Overnights

BBC 1
Doctors: 1.38m (17.7%)
Eastenders: 7.64m (35%)
Young Aprentice: 3.73m (16.3%)
Hunted: 3.08m (14%)


BBC 2
Autumnwatch: 2.5m (10.8%)
Operation Iceberg: 2.71m (12.3%)
Hebburn: 1.17m: (6.4%)


ITV 1
Emmerdale: 7.71m (35%)
Emmerdale: 7.17m (31%)
Emmerdale at 40: 3.64m (16.1%)
Homefront: 2.46m (11.2%)


Channel 4
Hollyoaks: 884k (4.5%)
The Human Mannequin: 1.96m (8.9%)


Channel 5
Neighbours: 618k (7.9%)
Neighbours: 980k (6%)
Home and Away: 638k (3.4%)
Hetfields & Mccoys: 1.05m (4.8%)


Dave
Red Dwarf: 1.05m (4.9%)


ITV 2
Celebrity Juice: 1.39m (8%)


Primetime Shares
BBC 1: 19.6%
ITV 1: 17.5%
BBC 2: 8.8%
Channel 4: 5.8%
Channel 5: 3.8%

IAC could drop like a stone, on par with TXF....but it may well buck the trend......some here will be ready to cast the first stone if it is 1 million+ down on 2011.....

Young Apprentice 'poor, makes Hunted 'mediocre'.....equals Homefront in Dire Straits......Money For Nothing and your ads for free....

Homefront is surely far more like Army Wives by another name (though not the success)?

Add in Eternal Law ( a sort of Touched up by An Angel)

And Mr Selfridge./The Paradise (not sure who was first)

A lot of cloning going on these days.

Homefront, bizarrely, is reversioning of a series that ITV commissioned six or so years ago called Bombshell. Made by Shed Productions and starring Zoe Lucker (with black hair), it's supposedly so bad that it will never be shown - in the UK, at least ...

I thought Homefront was a UK version of Lifetimes "Army Wives"

Awful for the Young Apprentice. Great numbers for The Chase.

I honestly think the production of the US version is worse than the UK version. The UK version has an issue with a dodgy panel - though it has more personality than the US panel - and an arguable lack of talent but the US has that (outside a couple of acts) plus sound problems,no atmosphere and a presenting duo who lack personality - while Mario is an improvement on Steve Jones, Khloe's voice cuts through you like a knife. Add to this the decision to continue with the live judges cut (why not make it a public vote once they realised they could cover two days?) and the scheduling mess thanks to the baseball and it's no wonder it's in freefall.


Why don't they just air it on every day of the week and be done with it? Talk about showing signs of creative bankruptcy.

NBC should be a warning to our broadcasters over here about what can happen if you put who your eggs in a basket of aging shows but are they listening? That's debatable to say the least.

Last night's figures in the UK were generally poor - EastEnders is only matching Emmerdale on share (to be fair the 7pm episode did well though the 8pm episode fell back a bit as per usual), Young Apprentice is hardly lighting up the schedules and Hunted is slowly sliding away. Meanwhile, on ITV1 everyone is just waiting for the end of the dire Homefront and Emmerdale at 40 is being used to fill an awkward gap which should have been filled by now. The Chase recorded a great figure, though. On the bright side, Hatfield and McCoys had good retention while BBC Two had a good night and The Human Mannequin didn't disgrace itself on Channel 4. Celebrity Juice is a very strong performer for ITV2.

Pretty weak for Young Apprentice, but then it was doing poorly at 9pm too. It never seemed like a good idea, and the fact it returned seemed more to stoke Sugar's ego than anything else. It's just over-saturated a formula that's going stale. Hunted and Homefront both go onto the sizeable "Autumn Flop" pile.

BBC Two has done good business this week with Autumnwatch and Operation Iceberg - classic BBC Two sort of programming really, and it's done very well for them.


I'd be stunned if Fox axed season 3. It would take a total ratings collapse. They've got enough problems on their hands for next season trying to save Mondays and support New Girl on Tuesdays - without going and wiping out Wednesdays and Thursdays as well. Madness.

That said, the figures will be a massive concern, and ought to put the newspapers stories about Cowell being unhappy with XF UK to rest. He's got much bigger problems.

That's what I thought and was saying in my post above...

Though there is no reference to it at all on the programme - so it must just be our imagination.

And if it is based on an earlier scrapped series as Servalan says then maybe Army Wives was based on that!

When will Young Apprentice be demoted to BBC3? It seems better fit then the main channel

I think it will need to play in the Championship for a season first, and then it gets demoted to BBC 3