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Old 03-11-2012, 10:11
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Old 03-11-2012, 10:34
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Surely the majority of people who want to watch the Inbetweeners will have got it on DVD last christmas? I remember Twilight doing poorly this time last year I think, and that is with its strong fanbase.
Big difference is the Inbetweeners hasn't been on Sky Movies, whereas Twilight played for a year before its network premiere.

I watch The Inbetweeners TV series, didn't see the film in the cinema, and don't rent/buy DVDs.

So, for me this will be about the first film I'll watched on network TV since The Queen, which went straight to ITV and Tamara Drew which had its TV premiere on BBC2/BBC HD.

It will do well!!
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Old 03-11-2012, 10:34
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Jenny Agutter, Pam Ferris and Miranda Hart are all big, mainstream names.

Call The Midwife is a much easier sell without any star names though. Period dramas on BBC1 nearly always bring in the viewers, it's the safest genre to bring in viewers apart from bog standard cop shows. There's a lot less need to have a big name to sell it than a spy drama which is a genre that hasn't really attracted a mainstream following outside of Spooks.

Launching a drama outside that of detective and period dramas without any biggish names to help bring viewers in is always going to be tough. Hunted didn't start very high, overnights of under 4,5m, IIRC. Regardless of whether the show is any good or not, that was a relatively low start for such a well-trailed show, something I would put down to the lack of name recognition.
I'm pretty sure no one tuned in to Call The Midwife due to the names - and if they did that's not why they stuck with it. It got astonishing ratings throughout, nothing other than a show's quality (well, people liking it anyway) could achieve that no matter who you had starring in it. Now maybe said stars were very good in it and their performances helped keep people gripped, but it's not because they were stars.

All star names can help with is a launch episode, and that's only one aspect of many. Let's be honest Hunted's promo was brilliant. So only 4.5 million tuned in - well as you say spy dramas are harder to launch, but had it stayed at that level it would probably have got renewed (I know it still might). Yet it's bombed incredibly since then. The hard facts are if it had been any cop whatsoever it would be doing well or would have remained steady.

If Melissa George had been a well known UK TV name maybe, just maybe it would have launched with 0.5 to 1 million more, nothing more than that...but we'd still be in the same position now, at 3 million odd no doubt. It is entirely the show that is the problem, not her.
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Old 03-11-2012, 10:41
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On a more absurd note, has anyone by chance got the series average rating for each series of Dancing on Ice, and also ratings for each final? If anyone has each series' launch episode ratings too that would be great as well. Thanks if so!
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Old 03-11-2012, 10:52
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From The X Factor on Facebook:

NEWS: "Lucy isn't well enough to perform this weekend so she has decided to withdraw from the competition. We are all sorry to see her go and wish her all the best for the future. She has been a fantastic contestant."
Which means one less contestant for the remainder of the series, meaning shorter performance shows than originally anticipated.
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Old 03-11-2012, 10:56
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This ITV stuff is stupid. ITV is probably the strongest it has been for a few years. They multi channels are going from strength to strength why all the nonsense. If you don't watch it, shut up. Its not harming anyone. This is just as much rubbish on BBC.
totally agree, people who slag off itv forget it isnt licence fee supported and the fact is the bbc (should) be better than itv

bbc has far more money to invest in shows and has to continue support to justify the licence fee (even tho many dont approve of the licence!)

itv is the biggest commercial network and will continue to be so,
bbc will always be in favor over itv due to no adverts and the extra cash it has to produce shows and news etc.

there are too many channels on offer now for it just to be a bbc v itv battle of which is best as a commercial network will always be second to a licence supported one.

itv continues to do well even with all the other commercial channels against it now a days and the cash problems the uk faces. if you are not a fan of itv just stick to bbc or the mass other channels on offer. itv isnt the only network to have low ratings for some of its shows even the licence fee supported ones do as well.

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Old 03-11-2012, 10:58
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Which means one less contestant for the remainder of the series, meaning shorter performance shows than originally anticipated.
Back in the Pop Idol days - when Rik Waller had to pull out because of throat problems - they replaced him with Darius Danesh - who went on to do quite well (3rd).
I wonder what they will do this time.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:03
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Back in the Pop Idol days - when Rik Waller had to pull out because of throat problems - they replaced him with Darius Danesh - who went on to do quite well (3rd).
I wonder what they will do this time.
I doubt they will replace Lucy as in Pop Idol it happened before the live shows actually began. It was announced on the first live show Danesh replaced Waller.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:06
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Back in the Pop Idol days - when Rik Waller had to pull out because of throat problems - they replaced him with Darius Danesh - who went on to do quite well (3rd).
I wonder what they will do this time.
They may do nothing and potentially just drag things out, but I assume it wouldn't be outside the realms of possibility to have viewers quickly vote back in a judges' house contestant. Last year Amelia returned to the show after Kelly got rid at an even later period than this, didn't she?

Or people get to vote back in a previously booted contestant. Not sure if that's allowed though...
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:12
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I doubt they will replace Lucy as in Pop Idol it happened before the live shows actually began. It was announced on the first live show Danesh replaced Waller.
That's not quite true. Rik sat out week 1 with a throat infection and Darius replaced him the week after when he was still unfit to return.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:15
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They may do nothing and potentially just drag things out, but I assume it wouldn't be outside the realms of possibility to have viewers quickly vote back in a judges' house contestant. Last year Amelia returned to the show after Kelly got rid at an even later period than this, didn't she?

Or people get to vote back in a previously booted contestant. Not sure if that's allowed though...
They were due a double elimination before the final so I think they'll just stick with the contestants they have.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:18
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They were due a double elimination before the final so I think they'll just stick with the contestants they have.
Ah I wasn't aware of that. This is good then - double eliminations have always been a bad idea, especially when there's very few people left. I still wouldn't be surprised to see a quick money-grabbing phone vote chucked in tonight though.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:20
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Something which completely passed me by but Countdown is being pushed to an even earlier slot a week on Monday, moving to 2.40pm to make way for a new Sandi Toksvig fronted quiz at 3.30pm. I believe it's been recommissioned for a couple of years but it's no surprise that everytime Countdown is moved to an earlier slot it loses viewers - indeed if they knocked 15 minutes off Deal or No Deal again they could air Countdown at 3pm, the new quiz at 3.45pm then Deal back at 4.15pm, which would mean Countdown shares a common junction with BBC1 and ITV1 at least, which surely would help it.

I think it's been recommissioned for two years but I get the feeling this could be its final run. It has been slowly moved out of the teatime slot over the past 10 years and will now be mid-afternoon. On the rare occasion ratings for Countdown are published they seem very low and Nick Hewer just doesn't work as host, lacking any warmth or charisma. Countdown has lived to see its 30th anniversary but the 32nd may be the last.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:23
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Ah I wasn't aware of that. This is good then - double eliminations have always been a bad idea, especially when there's very few people left. I still wouldn't be surprised to see a quick money-grabbing phone vote chucked in tonight though.
I don't mind them to be honest. I think they're useful if they go from 7 contestants to 5 for instance. That means they can go from 7 performances to 10 and there isn't a short week with only 6 people singing.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:25
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Lucy quit on Wednesday, they just held back the news for maximum exposure
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:39
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At this rate if they don't have a double elimination, they'd settle for a 3-person final, as long as they have the right acts.

I wonder if Lucy pulling out will have an impact on its ratings at all.
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Old 03-11-2012, 13:05
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I think it's been recommissioned for two years but I get the feeling this could be its final run. It has been slowly moved out of the teatime slot over the past 10 years and will now be mid-afternoon. On the rare occasion ratings for Countdown are published they seem very low and Nick Hewer just doesn't work as host, lacking any warmth or charisma. Countdown has lived to see its 30th anniversary but the 32nd may be the last.
I guess one thing going in it's favour is C4 now have a full daytime schedule to fill, not just 3.30-6.00pm, so even if it eventually became a lunchtime show it would probably do just as well and be just a cheap as anything else they could commission for the slot. Nick Hewer needs to go though - awful, awful host.
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Old 03-11-2012, 13:06
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On a more absurd note, has anyone by chance got the series average rating for each series of Dancing on Ice, and also ratings for each final? If anyone has each series' launch episode ratings too that would be great as well. Thanks if so!
Here's the info you asked for from Wikipedia....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing...eries_averages
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Old 03-11-2012, 13:11
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I guess one thing going in it's favour is C4 now have a full daytime schedule to fill, not just 3.30-6.00pm, so even if it eventually became a lunchtime show it would probably do just as well and be just a cheap as anything else they could commission for the slot. Nick Hewer needs to go though - awful, awful host.
Apart from Cheltenham, DOND never gets bumped out of its slot, will the transfer of racing from BBC to C4 change this?

BTW, the new schedule starts Monday week.
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Old 03-11-2012, 13:11
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I wonder if Lucy pulling out will have an impact on its ratings at all.
Why would it?

Clutching at straws now.
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Old 03-11-2012, 13:17
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Apart from Cheltenham, DOND never gets bumped out of its slot, will the transfer of racing from BBC to C4 change this?
Not sure about other racing but I think it's been confirmed that the timing of races at Royal Ascot will definitely not be brought forward so for that week at least the racing will go well into the late afternoon.
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Old 03-11-2012, 13:18
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Shame about Countdown. But to be fair, C4 do seem serious about daytime just now so it might survive if the latest shunt backwards isn't too detrimental to its figures. And in the post CBBC on BBC1 era it might actually work out for the better as presumably BBC1 will be significantly stronger from 3pm onwards when those changes come in, which would have affected Countdown.

I haven't really watched it much personally since they replaced the excellent witty Jeff Stelling with Nick Hewer who lacks the natural warmth required to carry the show.
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Old 03-11-2012, 13:19
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Why would it?

Clutching at straws now.
I think straws were being clutched two months ago! Of course a contestant pulling out is not going to have an affect - why would it?
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Old 03-11-2012, 13:20
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Thank you, did not realize it would be on there, stupidly. Those are some bloody strange figures.
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Old 03-11-2012, 13:26
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Shame about Countdown. But to be fair, C4 do seem serious about daytime just now so it might survive if the latest shunt backwards isn't too detrimental to its figures. And in the post CBBC on BBC1 era it might actually work out for the better as presumably BBC1 will be significantly stronger from 3pm onwards when those changes come in, which would have affected Countdown.

I haven't really watched it much personally since they replaced the excellent witty Jeff Stelling with Nick Hewer who lacks the natural warmth required to carry the show.
When ITV stopped doing children's shows on weekday afternoons and replaced them with drama repeats ratings went up in the afternoons. I think the same thing will happen with BBC1 as they'll be moving from shows that get a few hundred thousand to ones that could possibly get 1-2m. ITV's 5-6pm shows when they get the right ones do very well. I always recorded The Paul O'Grady Show to watch in the evenings and now I'm doing that with The Chase.

I'm with you on Countdown. Nick Hewer is the charmless man as host. Nobody really bothers with Countdown anymore. Deal Or No Deal is going that way but can still do entertaining shows. What they should do is have several quizzes in rotation rather than all year round. It kills them much quicker. This goes for Pointless and The Chase too.
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