Rumored I'm a Celebrity line-up for anyone interested...



http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-j...125406829.html

Strong line-up if true, the majority of which are recognisable.

Well surprise, surprise after a low rated XF show the results see controversy as Rylan survives a sing-off. Cue big XtraF ratings tonight & a heap of PR

Yep. Predictable as ever. If Rylan went your left with durdge next week.

But I think people are wiser now. There's nothing in that line-up that interests me.

Predicting a record low next week

Wow, that is sounding good, although I do doubt the likleyhood of Charlie from EE and The Rock, the first has been pinned on almost every celeb show this year, and the second is actually B list, if not A list

Another contrived results show. I've lost the will to boo Rylan like Wagner, in fact if he wins it, that's the nail in the coffin -- Britain continue voting him in!

I expect teenyboppers to tune in for One Direction and Little Mix next week but that won't save it from going down.

Lol, why do people get so cross with the X Factor. Its only a entertainment program and not ment to be taken seriously. As for next weeks rating i predict it will get around 8.2m I think the only reason it fell below 8m was because of fireworks. There were certainly alot going off where i was last night

broadcast info reports...A push to make the full range of The X Factor content available on a multiplatform basis has helped drive a record number of views for the current series of the ITV1 show.

so does the lower than expected ratings for sat night show really effect itv as the xfactor covers not just the live showing.

hope for new panel and a sun night performance show for next year.

Yes, so much shock and outrage about an almost decade old light entertainment show.

Generally speaking, the singing contest as a genre is tired. The Voice, started off well and then declined rapidly but did it's job in neutralising the XF. Then on top of that earlier in the year, ITV went and put out another singing contest, Superstar that flopped.

Singing on TV has been exhausted. Dancing has less over exposure.

Quite looking forward to a shake-up of Saturday night TV, and I hope that includes the BBC too. Don't want SCD for another 5 years.

They should stop asking impressionable people to spend money on voting, then.

Maybe then they should do the same with Strictly Come Dancing

SCD isn't fixed, whereas TXF clearly is.

I think this is true that they must start looking at changing saturday night television again. The voice is not going to suddenly re invent the singing contest on saturday nights. The first series felt as if it had been on for 10 years and this was its last series, much as I would have liked it to be original it simply offered nothing much new to the genre and wasn't as slickly produced as the X factor I'm afraid. Perhaps they need to rethink completely for a while and create epic drama and comedy on saturday evenings until another entertainment lightning strike format comes along again, Axe the money spent on Casualty and reinvest it into a quality 12 part serial drama, credit the audience to invest in decent writing and acting if throwaway opportunity knocks shows have dropped below any entertaining standard.

Lol. Do you have a source for that.

See what i mean this is an example of all the BBC love in this thread and fourm. SCD can never be a fix because its on the BBC but X Factor is because its made by ITV and cowell

Ooh, it's not been mentioned here yet but note that BBC1 Scotland isn't showing CBBC this week, they've got bowls on every day from 3pm to 5.15 - which they can't show on BBC2 because of the tennis. Be interesting to see how that rates, I assume the benefit from not running kids shows is offset by the fact it's, er, bowls.


Well, I think every TV executive has got a show or two that's lurking in very small print on their CV. Mark Shivas, for example, produced The Borgias in the eighties which was a notorious flop and then became Head of Drama, and Humphrey Burton produced Mainstream which was a complete disaster but almost became Controller of BBC2 a few years later - and only didn't when he said in his interview he thought he should appear on screen every night to personally introduce the programmes.


And I think that's exactly right, it's good to say at the end of every show that next week they'll be back at 6.30, I think any gain you get from coming on later is diminished by people hunting for it around the schedules, as The X Factor is proving. And I really do think 6.30 is the ideal time for it.


Ah, the Corrie omnibus. I remember when it started in 1989 it was networked, but most regions showed it on a Saturday afternoon, with Granada opting for a Sunday teatime placing. However it only included Wednesday's and Friday's episodes (it was introduced when the Friday episode began) and the Monday episode was repeated on a Wednesday afternoon, I remember the trailer explaining all this. Seemingly it was decided ninety minutes was too long for the viewer. It was also the same time they launched a Bill omnibus on Friday afternoons. Anyway, most regions abandoned the omnibus within a year or so but Granada stuck with it.

Then in 1993 they started doing networked repeats of the previous day's Corrie and Emmerdale at 1pm, but Granada opted out of them pretty sharpish and brought the omnibus back, seemingly because they liked that better and because they could show it in near enough primetime. In the mid-nineties Granada were regularly showing it at 6.30 on a Sunday, dropping network series for it, and they only stopped doing it when the Sunday Corrie began. And it never had the Monday episode in it.


And Strictly tonight was able to feature The Wanted and Andrea Bocelli and neither seemed out of place. And the former's performance proved that Strictly can certainly mount a spectacle when it wants.

Sadly though, before SCD & TXF came along (or Pop Idol in ITV's case), Saturday nights had gone through a few years of being poor. I remember a documentary on Channel 4 declaring Saturday nights dead.

Most of the stuff from the 1990s had long past it's hayday and had either been axed or was on it's way out.

It is quite likely this will be the case soon. It'll be like a Summer Saturday all year round until the next big thing comes along. You could see something like All Star Family Fortunes being the main programme at 8pm.

Teenyboppers who like Little Mix and One Direction will already be watching. Teenyboppers who like Little Mix and One Direction are not the sort of people who will switch off X Factor. As far as X Factor is concerned, they'll be the last man standing.

Hard to know what that will be.

Maybe somebody should have a crack at 3-2-1 again ?

To sit alongside year-round Casualty and year-round In It To Win It, BBC1 could also have year-round Seaside Special. Ah, memories. <shudders>

Well my love for the BBC has been completely destroyed recently due to revelations about it. I am now more of a Fiver than anything else, a decent little channel that is fighting hard to find an audience.

Yes boths show rejuvinated the entertainment genre again and got away from the 1990's lack of imagination. I think strictly looks in good shape and reinvents itself each year, but is under invested in by the BBC at times, it could be sharper too. In its present form it echoes some of the atmosphere and scenes from classic showbiz routines of light entertainment shows from the BBC's golden era so it draws strength from the escapism running through it in a time of austerity. I think it has many more years to run. But it could do to be bolstered by a quality drama that would really captures the audiences imagination again and challenge ITV's schedule or visa versa with the BBC.

"BBC love" my arse. If you can't see that TXF is fixed, you're just as impressionable as the poor saps who pay to vote every week. It's blatant. The producers can't even be bothered to conceal it anymore.

I thought so too when I posted on here in September, talking about a massive timeshift for part of the EE omnibus on the night of 31 August / 1 September, as revealed in Broadcast's list of the top 30 timeshifters. I've now found two further examples on Broadcast, and I believe things may not be as they seem. Here are the three mega-timeshifting EE omnibus episodes:


I found it suspicious that all three high-timeshifting omnibus episodes were repeats of the Friday's show - omnibus repeats of no other day's EE made the top 30 in any week I looked at. Also it seemed strange that well over half a million people would record part of the late-night omnibus! (More than recorded the normal Friday 8pm edition, in all three cases.) Finally, we know the omnibus has an overnight share of about 7-9%, so for the last part of it to be consolidating over 20% was odd.

I believe the explanation is that people who watched the Friday EE on Saturday or later in the week via the integrated iPlayer service offered on Virgin Media, games consoles etc would be added to the rating for the most recent showing of that episode (this is what happens with Sky Anytime so I presume it's the same thing). In this case the most recent showing would be the Friday-night segment of the late-night omnibus edition, thus boosting its reported consolidated rating. When Sky completes installing iPlayer on all compatible boxes later this month, I believe we may see even higher 'timeshifts' for the omnibus.

One reason why this matters (slightly!) is that those few hundred thousand viewers being added to the omnibus are being 'stolen' from Friday's 8pm episode, artificially deflating its consolidated figure. However, I haven't seen any evidence of this: the Friday episode is still adding 500k-700k in the officials, about the same as before the Friday-night omnibus was introduced.

Prior to TXF and SCD Saturdays had become a no go zone for a lot of viewers, remember The Premiership?

Understand your disillusionment with the BBC, but turning to a channel owned by a pornographer is a bit ironic, isn't it?

Its not fixed. For crying out loud he got the lowest votes the public voted him into the bottom and he went simple as that.

And don't tell me its not BBC Love because it is most of this forum love the BBC and just love Bashing ITV.