He didn't do it in the way Ste does where it's really obvious there's feelings there (which I'm glad about). Seemed more like Eggy wanted a shag rather than any affection.

Yup bye bye Egg


Yeah this is me He was cute but...


Mmm I do kind of wonder the point of it all now? To make Cheryl want to help Brendan? To make Ste jealous? Well Cheryl probably would have anyway and if Ste was jealous it didn't amount to much (yet)

Unless he was supposed to portray that Brendan might have done all these terrible things but he is capable of change, no matter what Eoghan said. But who knows

We don't even know if that's going to happen. It's a tiny spoiler, and spoilers can be notoriously unreliable. If it happens then it'll probably just be Ste being insecure and having a lack of self esteem, like he always has. I doubt they're going to portray it as Brendan needing to be apologised to for abusing him.

So Brendan on his knees, apologising in a heartfelt manner, isn't good enough?

To be fair, Iclabon, any recent viewers would also not know of Ste's less than perfect history. Not just in terms of the Amy SL, but also the baseball bat attack on Brendan (sorry to keep bringing it up ), the 80K deli-scam, the January Declan episode, the fake wedding scam .... all things that don't show Ste in a glowing light, exactly. But they've all been swept under the carpet, and will stay there I'm pretty sure of it.

I'm sure it's on the cards that Brendan will admit all his wrongdoings to Ste and beg forgiveness. I really don't need to see him being made to wear a hair-shirt indefinitely. He's not the only one who has things to apologise for.

Exactly.

I never rely on spoilers too much. And are the show really going to have Brendan - the man that he is now - saying "Yes Steven, this is all your fault." Er, no. I bet he'll be horrified that Ste is feeling so dejected that he would even say such a thing.

I'm sorry, that were cruel, I'm just jelly she gets to be Queen.

I'd actually quite like him and Doug, if only so we could call their ship Brynsey.

But you're my princess

At least my Dynsey dreams would sort of come true

Hey Iclabon.

Oh I knew you weren't posting a sympathetic to Brendan post I knew you were meaning that Brendan is being portrayed as a victim and that you didn't want that. What I meant was you were right people were going to view it like that, not that that's what you seen it as . I was saying people will see Brendan being portrayed as the 'victim' and will react like he is a victim, completely ignoring the fact that he abused Ste and needs to apologize to Ste for that of his own accord. I definitely did not misunderstand you, I just worded it wrong.

Anyway I pretty much agree with you. I'd like Brendan to apologize for what he's put Ste through. I don't want Ste just saying 'sorry for giving you such a hard time about being angry, I'm angry too!' I highly doubt that will happen though. What I meant was I think Brendan knows he's been a dick and that's why he's accepting all the hassle everyone is giving him. He thinks he deserves it, and to some extent he does!


BH

Bonnie I can see what you're saying. When I initially read that spoiler I did wonder what they meant by it but almost immediately I knew it wouldn't quite play out that way on screen.

They only want them to understand each other better. Brendan knows well enough now that what he did to Ste was awful and wrong, and that's why he hasn't responded to Ste's advances thus far. He did try to kiss him but he was feeling vulnerable and he misread the situation.

I'm pretty confident it won't be Ste excusing his violence towards him, but instead trying to understand it in completeness. To an extent, he already does anyway. I guess the main difference will be that Brendan understands Ste better too and how they're both victims of their childhoods. Ste is most definitely the man to show Brendan that people are capable of change; he himself has achieved it, Brendan can too.

I'm sure Brendan will apologise for what he did to Ste. It was awful, and we all know that.

But he is a victim too The sexual abuse plot is so important for showing why he's like this.

I agree. Considering how misleading spoilers always are...



They could bond of their grief for her. And shag on the sofa where she died.

We hardly know anything that they're going to talk about. I'm sure it won't come across like that.

Ewwww That's so creepy. The Brady's really should get a new sofa.

Oh I know, I do feel very sorry for Brendan as well. I feel bad for both of them. That's why I like their relationship so much, because they've both done awful things, but they can also both understand each other and why they did these awful things.

Their relationship is beautifully flawed. If Ste was a saint and Brendan was this awful person, it wouldn't work at all the way it does.

BH

Completely agree. They've both done really questionable things - and a lot of things that most people would find unforgivable. But I think the fact that they're so similar is what makes them able to last in a relationship in the long run. They can understand that pain and anger.

Yeah it's a certain Brendan will apologise , i mean there is no logical way they could be together because that would be ignoring the reason they weren't together in the first place. Although i think this chat won't be about Stendan just Ste and his childhood so as they understand each other better but also i think it's made to make Brendan feel guilty and tell him to be happy with Doug. It really be a case of Brendan just being a listener and helping him get back some confidence maybe but also seeing people can change like Ste has but he feels he has to let him go

That's what makes me think if they don't go to Dublin together Ste goes after him because he's let him go be happy but Ste doesn't want Doug.

Only by default.

And LMans Breggy ones. *glares * Most awkward sex ever, though. In the dark with glum acceptance that your other half is going to call out your dead sisters/their unrequited lusts name at some point. Grim.

Exactly Ready!

Anyway I'm heading out now so sorry if anyone replies, I'm not ignoring you!

BH

Did we ever work out why JP was in Dublin?

Sorry I've been meaning to ask but have been busy all week.

Bye BH!


Never! You're one of the most awesome people I know.

How depressing. The fact that they still had sex after they were caught made me laugh. Brendan really doesn't seem to get any joy from it, beyond the initial obvious pleasure.


No, but I reckon he's just there because of Craig, and they've split up - maybe he's drowning his sorrows, and meets Stendan.

No spoilersbut there's always a reason for everythingi think Ste's probably gonna mention all that Myra and Jacqui have been through recently and he'll go OH!! i'll come back.-PLOT and Brendan can just sorta nod in the background thinking -who the hell is this guy-

It was Kieron's interview wording that suggested Ste "apologised" right? Cos I'm sure he won't, that was just phrased badly.

Yes - we know how reliable he is...

*has bad memories of Myleene Klass*

This was the quote I think 'They have a heart-to-heart where Ste says, “I’m exactly like you - I gave you a hard time for having all this aggression when in actual fact I’m the same.”“


It does seem badly worded but i didn't think he'd apologise i just thought he's make comparisons between him and Brendan.

By and large, he is the only one with anything to really apologize for, Bluebird.

I know you don't see it that way because of bias though. You make no secret of it.

I found the 80k scam to be something Ste had no choice but to do with how they were writing Brendan. It was just a bad ill-conceived plot that shouldn't have happened, as was the bat attack and Ste's no kidnapper. But I think everything else has been fair and true to the characters and the story, and it's nothing but Brendan having been the one acting badly.

Even though he hated him, he still fancied him.

Kind of like Ste at times