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John Yorke Quits BBC
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...quits-bbc.html
Shame. He's done great things for some of the BBC's best shows. |
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Some new blood is needed.
Hopefully with him gone,Eastenders can move forward and get its creativity back. You only have to look at the state that Casualty and Holby currently find themselves in to see what a mess he has made. So the question is, did he quit or was he advised to ? |
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We shall probably never know. To be fair he has done some good things for the BBC, but yes it is a very good time for some new blood, things need shaking up a bit.
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I'd say the state of Eastenders is not his fault.
Eastenders as it has stood the last 2 years was definitely not his vision for the show. |
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Yes but he helped appoint those who subsequently ruined it.
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Yes but he helped appoint those who subsequently ruined it.
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He was the reason behind Daniella Westbrook returning so kind of glad that he is leaving as I think he might have lost his touch since his days as EE exec.
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...quits-bbc.html
Shame. He's done great things for some of the BBC's best shows. |
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good luck to him and who ever takes over new ideas and creativity never a bad thing.
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The writing on Holby City is miles better than EE whatever you think of the current quality, so I wouldn't blame Yorke for EE's current state. How come Yorke is being blamed for this now? I thought everyone was obssesed with blaming Kirkwood for everything? EE will continue to be poor long after Yorke is gone unless they hire good new writers and come up with a fresh, new style of storytelling.
Don't watch Casualty too often so can't comment on that, but I'd say the writing is better than EE as well from what I've seen. In its prime, EE was superior to both shows but not anymore. At the end of the day, it's the EP of EE who has to take the blame for EE's poor quality, but I don't blame Kirkwood as I think EE's problems with quality existed long before he came along. It hasn't been truly consistent and entertaining probably since the early 2000s. Sure, they were some good episodes when Dennis and Sharon were around together in the mid-2000s and when Grant and Den returned, but it wasn't consistent. |
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He has done good things at the BBC but agree it is time for new blood.
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Why is it a shame? If anything, he's one of the main reasons for EE's downfall over the years.
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The writing on Holby City is miles better than EE whatever you think of the current quality, so I wouldn't blame Yorke for EE's current state. How come Yorke is being blamed for this now? I thought everyone was obssesed with blaming Kirkwood for everything? EE will continue to be poor long after Yorke is gone unless they hire good new writers and come up with a fresh, new style of storytelling.
Don't watch Casualty too often so can't comment on that, but I'd say the writing is better than EE as well from what I've seen. In its prime, EE was superior to both shows but not anymore. At the end of the day, it's the EP of EE who has to take the blame. Plus, EE has had problems with quality long before Kirkwood came along. It hasn't been truly consistent and entertaining probably since the early 00's. Sure, they were some good episodes when Den returned, but it wasn't consistent. Completely agree T.K, especially with the B.I.B. |
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Some new blood is needed.
Hopefully with him gone,Eastenders can move forward and get its creativity back. Bryan was brilliant on Hollyoaks and he's just returned to work there now, and Hollyoaks has shot up in quality recently - I don't think that's a coincidence. I think Bryan and the other executive producers and writers have more free reign at Hollyoaks as it's on Channel 4, so they can be more ambitious and creative and be allowed to take more risks. I imagine the EE execs over the past few years (from Louise Berridge onwards) had loads of pressure from the top and had to conform to a certain vision, so they weren't allowed to be so freely creative. Probably because it's on the BBC and as everyone pays a licence fee, they have to play safe. |
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Shame on EE he easily was one of the best producers they've ever had, slaters arriving, Who shot Phil, Ethel's death all were fantastic
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Completely agree T.K, especially with the B.I.B. |
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Yes but he helped appoint those who subsequently ruined it.
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Some new blood is needed.
Hopefully with him gone,Eastenders can move forward and get its creativity back. You only have to look at the state that Casualty and Holby currently find themselves in to see what a mess he has made. So the question is, did he quit or was he advised to ? He was also responsible for more than EastEnders whilst at the BBC. I don't buy this 'Yorke stifled BK' rubbish. For one thing Yorke was one of the best EPs EE ever had between 2000-2002 and he also appointed Diederick Santer who had no problems in running the show successfully. Whether you agreed with all of Santer's decisions or not it was a successful era for the show. The quality of EE also shot up when Yorke returned to the BBC in 2005. 2006 was only so bad because half the cast left and new characters had to be bedded in. Saying that these past two years have been John Yorke's vision for EE and not Bryan Kirkwood's lets BK off the hook. Funny how the show was not as bad as it is now before BK took over. If anything the show would've benefitted from John Yorke keeping a closer eye on it - it seems over the past couple of years he has been focusing less on EE and doing other things, most recently running things at The Archers. |
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I agree. I'm purely speculating here, but I'm thinking one of the reasons Bryan Kirkwood did so poorly at EastEnders is probably because Yorke stifled all of his creative decisions.
Bryan was brilliant on Hollyoaks and he's just returned to work there now, and Hollyoaks has shot up in quality recently - I don't think that's a coincidence. I think Bryan and the other executive producers and writers have more free reign at Hollyoaks as it's on Channel 4, so they can be more ambitious and creative and be allowed to take more risks. I imagine the EE execs over the past few years (from Louise Berridge onwards) had loads of pressure from the top and had to conform to a certain vision, so they weren't allowed to be so freely creative. Probably because it's on the BBC and as everyone pays a licence fee, they have to play safe. |
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To be fair BK was amazing at Hollyoaks so you can see why Yorke and others (I doubt he made employment decisions alone) thought he might be a good fit for EastEnders.
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Fantastic EP for EastEnders in what is of the best Era's for the show. He's done alot of good for EastEnders (and other shows) but it's time to move on and good luck to him.
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'Play Safe'? Baby swap was playing safe??
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Well they had to finish the storyline early and cut scenes and replace it with filler stuff, like Poppy and Jodie chatting in the Vic. I imagine Bryan would have played the storyline all the way through the way he intended, if it wasn't for the BBC intervening.
The story should never have been greenlit in the first place. It's hard to tell how much of an effect changing it had on the rest of the year but I thought Ronnie's actual exit week was one of the best of 2011. |
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Well they had to finish the storyline early and cut scenes and replace it with filler stuff, like Poppy and Jodie chatting in the Vic. I imagine Bryan would have played the storyline all the way through the way he intended, if it wasn't for the BBC intervening.
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Thanks, cobwebsoup. I just think people seem to forget EE was poor before Kirkwood came along. It probably became worse under his management, but it would've still been poor regardless of who was in charge. The writers are the problem here to be honest.
Eastenders has had problems ever since 2003. There have been periods where it has improved dramatically (Late 2003 when Den returned, late 2005 with the Phil/Grant/Chrissie and Alfie/Nana storylines, Christmas 2007 with Stacey and Max, a lot of 2009 - 2010 with the Ronnie/Danielle/Archie stuff) but it hasn't been consistent like it was pre-2003.
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Eastenders has had problems ever since 2003. There have been periods where it has improved dramatically (Late 2003 when Den returned, late 2005 with the Phil/Grant/Chrissie and Alfie/Nana storylines, Christmas 2007 with Stacey and Max, a lot of 2009 - 2010 with the Ronnie/Danielle/Archie stuff) but it hasn't been consistent like it was pre-2003.