Are you pleased he had his best week

So you said.



And, I would refer to my earlier response about people thinking they "know," people with regard to their sexuality and finding out years later that they didn't "know," the person at all..even close family and even the people they got married to etc..

It's impossible to know exactly what goes on inside another persons head, so far as that goes.
What they say and what they think can be two totally different things and often for very understandable reasons.



That's definitely been my experience.

I couldn't care less if he's gay, or str8..

I happen to think he's a very talented young person..

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I understand what you are saying but people are presuming things because he hasn't had a girlfriend etc.
I've not seen a thread about james arthur being gay for example..By your theory it could be a possibilty

sounded stupid. Why change the lyrics of a classic. It's not a song about a boyfriend or girlfriend anyway !! This show is getting so dumb

Is he a good christian boy

Absolutely

It really irritates me when the gender is changed for tis song. It isn't a love song - it's supposed to be the story of someone who goes to see a singer whose songs are representative of the pain the listener feels. It isn't about falling in love with anyone.

Most people here, the X Factor producers and Jahmene are clearly too stupid to realise this, as are the people who've changed the gender in the song before.

Moral up bringing is clear to see

It could be a possibility that anyone's gay,or bi-sexual, or str8..including..James Arthur..

I've already stated that I'm going on a hunch..re Jahmene.

I'm not presuming he's gay because he hasn't had a girlfriend..and I hope that he's not remotely offended by the fact that it's up for debate, I'm sure this won't be the first, or last time anyone brings it up and he'll have to deal with that and much "worse," if he's successful?

As for James Arthur, I heard he ended up with 5 girls the other night, if all the gumpf in the press is to be believed?
Of course they could've been comparing recipes for how to make a fabulous Raspberry Pavlova?

And, maybe it's all a big smoke screen to hide the fact that he's as gay as a goose..not that I'm think he'd be remotely concerned by being thought so either, or at least, when he gets to perform at G.A.Y. if and when he's kicked out he'll have to put on a good act of not being concerned..



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What constitutes a "good," Christian can vary from Christian to Christian..and denomination to denomination.

There's a substantial number of gay Christians out there and an even larger number of Christians who don't take the Bible as God's literal word..on any number of topics..and who're totally tolerant of homosexuality..



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My sentiments exactly

Here to help

Me too.

It seems like all people are interested in these days is the private aspects of peoples lives.
And like somehow they have a God given right to know everything about a person.

All that matters is the singing.

Who cares if he changed the words - he sang the song beautifully and the words had meaning.

DS goes from bad to worse. Such a shame - it used to be a great place to come to find out news etc but lately the posting on here has been nasty and personal and not somewhere very nice to be.

It's pathetic that someone can create a thread like this and smugly add "We know". How you can judge him from the view of your sofa I don't know. He's hardly Rylan.

And even if he were gay to create a snidey thread like this is pathetic.

I could not of put it better myself. It is sad that we even have to discuss this rather than just enjoy the performance.

he doesn't get to pick the song nicole does

He has good morals
Thats all i was saying nothing more nothing less

Not even going to both with is he or isnt he gay as i couldn't give a toss with all clap trap

No, you asked a question as to whether he was a "good Christian boy."

That's not a statement about his moral character, other than possibly implying that being a "good Christian boy," amounts to being a "moral," person and that itself is up for debate.

Rich.
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Children brought up in a christian home tend to hsve a good moral up bringing as display by jahmene

That's an opinion and not a fact.

It's possible that children brought up in a Pagan, or Buddhist, or Muslim home, or an Atheist home receive a good moral upbringing..

And, like I said, IMO, it depends on which type of "Christian," you're talking about, there isn't a one size fits all option on that and it also depends what you mean by "good morals."
Your notion of "good morals," might be vastly different from mine.

I'm sure ther're a number of people out there who believe they've been severely damaged by their "Christian," upbringing..

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I would love to hear a choir covering this song and singing about another choir - "killing us softly with their song etc.". Also a woman singing Rocket Man - "she's a rocket woman etc.". That would be good.

That's probably why Kate Bush didn't go for a lyric change when she covered the song, among other reasons



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8v2RNLHr0

But then, she didn't change the lyrics to "Candle In The Wind," either!

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Well done, on one of the few posts on any forum, on any subject that has taught me something and made a bloody good point.

they always do this on x factor, its so annoying >.<

I don't know why people blame it on X-Factor when historically there have been tons of male artists to make the change (a few listed in my previous post).
Would it help you to think that he was singing Al B. Sure!'s version, with a slightly modified backing track (as they often do on X-Factor)?
Perhaps it's just a simple matter of Jahmene being most moved by a female singer in the past. Like Whitney Houston, who he claims to have been one of his favorite singers. Or Lori Lieberman, the original singer. Or Roberta Flack, who made it famous. Or Lauryn Hill, who is probably the most famous CURRENT act. Or his mom. Or his NAN, for all I care. There is no point in the song where "boy", "he", or "his" is used for a rhyme. Changing the gender does nothing about changing the meaning of being moved by someone singing a song. The original was written about a man singing and being moved. That same emotion may have been brought out in Jahmene by a female singer, and singing about that experience made it more believable.

I'm surprised more people aren't offended by the show's attribution of the song to The Fugees, rather than Roberta or Lori. The version he sang seems more like Roberta's than The Fugees, IMO.