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Old 28-10-2012, 10:27
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After the clocks went back 1hour last night the humax 1000S is now 1hour fast but the guide is showing the correct time. I have tried disconnecting the mains and a factory reset but clock on front panel still hour fast anyone know how to put it right?
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Old 28-10-2012, 10:30
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After the clocks went back 1hour last night the humax 1000S is now 1hour fast but the guide is showing the correct time. I have tried disconnecting the mains and a factory reset but clock on front panel still hour fast anyone know how to put it right?
Someone else wanting a clock display - think that costs you about 7.5 watts. I also think it has been reported at myhumax.org.
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:35
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Someone else wanting a clock display - think that costs you about 7.5 watts. I also think it has been reported at myhumax.org.
Correction it is 2.4-2.5 watts extra,
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Old 28-10-2012, 19:09
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Correction it is 2.4-2.5 watts extra,
I'd want a clock display too. To hell with 7.5W!


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Old 28-10-2012, 20:23
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I'd want a clock display too. To hell with 7.5W!


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In the long run it is cheaper to buy one.
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Old 28-10-2012, 20:31
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In the long run it is cheaper to buy one.
But in winter, the 7.5W helps keep the house warm, so you have to take the heating fuel savings into account
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Old 28-10-2012, 22:06
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But in winter, the 7.5W helps keep the house warm, so you have to take the heating fuel savings into account
Some of it appears as light from the clock display . I rather think this thread is descending into the realms of Science Fiction

Any miniscule amount of energy from the extra 2.5W will have long been lost by the time your heating comes on.

Your house may be warmer by a unmeasurable temperature increase overnight. Most of us use a far cheaper source of energy than electricity for heating.

Seen this daft argument before.

There are other reasons for reducing overnight energy consumption. The competive UK electricity market is based on a spot offer bid from the generators to National Grid. The lower the demand the lower the bid price (Generators can use their most efficient generating capacity) . Any increase in overnight consumption increases the energy cost we all pay. 3W might not sound much multiply by the amount of consumers say 30 million thats a hell of a lot of extra generation required to meet the extra demand (thats ignoring the extra spiinning reserve required to cover plant breakdowns )
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Old 28-10-2012, 22:14
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After the clocks went back 1hour last night the humax 1000S is now 1hour fast but the guide is showing the correct time. I have tried disconnecting the mains and a factory reset but clock on front panel still hour fast anyone know how to put it right?
Don't know. How about going into the menus and see what you can find. Maybe "daylight saving, on, off ,auto."
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Old 28-10-2012, 22:27
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Don't know. How about going into the menus and see what you can find. Maybe "daylight saving, on, off ,auto."
There isn't any way currently of correcting the clock.

It does not affect the boxes recording capability in any way. Engaging low power sby suppresses the clock displayed in s by.
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Old 29-10-2012, 05:26
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Clock wrong? There was I thinking that at last the UK had adopted C.E.T.
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Old 29-10-2012, 08:13
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I would guess if a clock is costing you about £6.00 extra a year on your electric bill you would want it to display the correct time


As a rough guide every 1 watt on all the time for a year puts just over £1.00 on your annual electric bill with that figure always getting higher...

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Old 29-10-2012, 13:42
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Goodness, I had not realised this was a forum about how to reduce electricity bills, I thought it was about the new Humax 1000s.

Clearly there is a software bug that fails to recognise the UK time going back to GMT. I spent quite a while last night wading through the settings menus but I could not find a way to reset the clock. I assume the machine is supposed to get the time from the satellites used by Freesat.

It seems that it is only the display clock on the front panel in normal standby that is wrong. In all other areas, the machine seems to work correctly.

I have emailed Humax UK but no reply so far.
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Old 29-10-2012, 13:59
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Goodness, I had not realised this was a forum about how to reduce electricity bills, I thought it was about the new Humax 1000s.

Clearly there is a software bug that fails to recognise the UK time going back to GMT. I spent quite a while last night wading through the settings menus but I could not find a way to reset the clock. I assume the machine is supposed to get the time from the satellites used by Freesat.

It seems that it is only the display clock on the front panel in normal standby that is wrong. In all other areas, the machine seems to work correctly.

I have emailed Humax UK but no reply so far.
Barry at MyHumax has spoken personally to Humax so they do know about the issue.
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Old 29-10-2012, 20:25
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Quite impressive, even for Humax, to have a bug found this quickly. Always seem to have to put right software that should be correct at time of purchase.
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Old 29-10-2012, 20:40
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Quite impressive, even for Humax, to have a bug found this quickly. Always seem to have to put right software that should be correct at time of purchase.
Which pvr of any description do you know of that didn't have bugs at launch ?. Many of the makers just give up a relatively short time after launch. You need a large dose of realism

So the clock on the front, which most never see is 1hr wrong, so what . It doesn't affect the box operation in any way).
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Old 29-10-2012, 21:04
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Quite impressive, even for Humax, to have a bug found this quickly. Always seem to have to put right software that should be correct at time of purchase.
It is not easy to check a DST>GMT change before it happens live
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Old 29-10-2012, 22:47
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My Manhattan PVR is in two minds about the time, in the TV guide its an hour out, on the screen epg its correct. Odd.
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Old 30-10-2012, 14:47
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For those too young to remember Microsoft got in wrong too in 1996 when PCs running Windows 95 changed automatically to wintertime a month too early.
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Old 30-10-2012, 14:50
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For those too young to remember Microsoft got in wrong too in 1996 when PCs running Windows 95 changed automatically to wintertime a month too early.
Must have been the pre-millenium bug
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Old 30-10-2012, 15:27
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For those too young to remember Microsoft got in wrong too in 1996 when PCs running Windows 95 changed automatically to wintertime a month too early.
That's nothing, our local council just installed 3,300 photocells on our street lights that are stuck on GMT so don't change the on and off times correctly.

Cells cost £30.00 each plus electrician to visit 3,300 street lights so I guess a £330K screw up.

So much for saving money?

Back to the box I think all of them work internally on UTC and apply the offset for the local time zone and summer / winter time.

You can see this by the file date and times if you have Raydon's utilities installed on the old player.

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Old 30-10-2012, 15:42
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That's nothing, our local council just installed 3,300 photocells on our street lights that are stuck on GMT so don't change the on and off times correctly.

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Puzzled, photocells turn on the lights when it's dark. They shouldn't need any time input
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Old 30-10-2012, 16:08
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They probably don't want them wasting power every time a heavy cloud passes overhead

Anyway my Manhattan box is now fully synced.
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Old 30-10-2012, 16:11
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That's nothing, our local council just installed 3,300 photocells on our street lights that are stuck on GMT so don't change the on and off times correctly.

Cells cost £30.00 each plus electrician to visit 3,300 street lights so I guess a £330K screw up.

So much for saving money?

Back to the box I think all of them work internally on UTC and apply the offset for the local time zone and summer / winter time.

You can see this by the file date and times if you have Raydon's utilities installed on the old player.

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Humax have changed this more than once on the Foxsat.
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Old 30-10-2012, 22:36
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Which pvr of any description do you know of that didn't have bugs at launch ?. Many of the makers just give up a relatively short time after launch. You need a large dose of realism

To be fair though they still have not sorted the long standing bug in the FOXSAT that happens everytime the hour changes.

I can accept the fact that leading upto the change over all the programs scheduled after 2AM Sunday morning show as one hour out, but when the change happens some of the scheduled programs do not adjust and still remain one hour out.

I have actually worked out what causes this. If you setup a series link on a channel and the next epsiode is scheduled on that same channel after the 2 AM clock change the schedule corrects itself. However, if you set a series link lets say on E4 and due to a clash it decides that it will record the next episode on E4+1 (and the next epsiode is after the change of hour) then it does not correctly reschedule these following the change of hour.

As an example:

Prior to 2AM on the Sunday a snippet of my Monday night schedule was:

Vampire Diaries ITV2 10 PM
Made In Chelsea E4+1 12 PM (midnight)

Following the 2 AM change my schedule was:

Vampire Diaries ITV2 9 PM
Made In Chelsea E4+1 12 PM (midnight)

So, the Vampire Diaries was correct but MIC was still scheduled an hour later. The only difference was that the Vampire Diaries was series linked on ITV 2 and the next episode scheduled was on ITV 2 but with MIC it was series linked on E4 but due to a clash the next episode was scheduled to record from E4+1.

Altogether there were 3 channels were I noted this - E4, Channel 4 and BBC One West Midlands were due to a clash the next epsiode had been scheduled to record from E4+1, Channel 4+1 and BBC One Scotland.

Edit: Apologies for thread hijacking. Just pointing out that theres still plenty of annoyances in their mature products that they can't be bothered to fix!
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Old 31-10-2012, 09:06
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Puzzled, photocells turn on the lights when it's dark. They shouldn't need any time input
They installed Part Night Photo electric Control Units (PECU's) but did not get the more modern ones that can estimate when the summer and wintertime changes occur.

They work out the time of year by the daily hours of daylight and if the value is getting shorter or longer.

http://www.cablejoints.co.uk/sub-pro...royce-thompson

http://www.streetlightonline.co.uk/Photocells/

Apologies for drifting off the subject.

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