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Old 28-10-2012, 10:36
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Why have apple not given in to a few of the following

Why no 3D, Touchscreen, Blu ray iMac???

3D - no reason why they would be against this or haven't tested the market to see if their customers would welcome this.

Touchscreen - they are the kings of touchscreen. No other maker has such a perfect touch sensitive product base so why hasn't thus transferred to its mac range?

Blu ray - I know they are about iTunes and this makes sense commercially but not every mac is connected or has been connected to high speed fibre network. Blu ray would be good in my opinion.
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Old 28-10-2012, 14:24
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No 3D because it's at best, a niche technology the masses are not interested in, and at worst, a gimmick.

No touchscreen because it doesn't work well on a vertical surface. Hence they sell touchpads instead.

No Blu-ray because on a PC at least, it's a niche and declining technology which Jobs once described as a "bag of hurt".
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Old 28-10-2012, 14:37
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Yeah for a Desktop all those 3 are a farce.

Touch screen as on Windows 8 desktops is a joke. You dont use a Laptop or Desktop like that and constantly reaching across to your screen instead of a quicker mouse movement is daft.

Bluray however is probably the only one where you would think twice as you may want to use your mac to burn your own bluray home video ... mind you you would go buy a external = more .
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:31
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I don't see the point in 3D or touchscreen for a desktop.

As for Blu-ray... Apple wants you to be downloading films from iTunes, not playing discs purchased elsewhere. Hell, the new iMac doesn't even have a CD/DVD drive anymore!
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Old 28-10-2012, 16:14
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I dont have or want any of those things on my PC desktop.
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Old 28-10-2012, 16:43
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3D - no reason why they would be against this or haven't tested the market to see if their customers would welcome this.
3D just isn't good enough yet, not from a user perspective anyway. Apple tend not to add things to their devices until they are pretty mature, at which point they claim to have invented them .

Touchscreen - they are the kings of touchscreen. No other maker has such a perfect touch sensitive product base so why hasn't thus transferred to its mac range?
Kings of touchscreen? Pretty debatable. Popularisers of touchscreens would be more accurate. Large touchscreens only work, from an ergonomic point of view, if they are positioned like drawing tables. This causes problems, because people still want access to a physical keyboard for data entry (still the thing we do most often with desktop computers) and Apple love their glossy screens, which would be impossible to use at that angle due to glare from lights.

A possible solution to this would be a monitor stand that can easily move from the standard position to the drawing position. Seems like a lot of work for something you can mostly do with a mouse or Wacom-type tablet though. Incidentally, Wacom do sell a large display aimed at those who usually use a drawing table.

The other issue with larger displays, for consumers of content rather than creators, is that they tend to want to be further away from the screen, so touch input is pretty useless. Something like a more accurate version of Kinect would be the way to do with this, I think, either that or the companion screen approach taken with Nintendo's next console.

Blu ray - I know they are about iTunes and this makes sense commercially but not every mac is connected or has been connected to high speed fibre network. Blu ray would be good in my opinion.
Jobs and co have been moving Apple away from removable storage for a long time. Remember the fuss when they stopped putting floppy drives in some of their machines? They want people to get their content from iTunes.
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Old 28-10-2012, 20:42
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3D on a computer....no thanks
Touch screen on a desktop.....errrrr not sure i'd want that either.
BluRay? Why?? Watch your movies on a TV.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:26
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It's not in Apple's interest to have people watching Bluray films on their mac when they could be downloading them from the iTunes store. Doing the latter also means the content will contain DRM that will prevent it from being used on any non-Apple device so its all retained within the walled garden.

As for the rest..

Touch screen doesn't work well with a normal desktop environment and there is no real benefit to including it.

The 3D gimmick is almost behind us now. People have finally started to realise its really bad for your eyes and not worth the extra cost.
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Old 28-10-2012, 22:40
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For touchscreen at least, I remember Steve Jobs saying that using a touchscreen on a vertical surface "makes you arm feel that it's about to fall off", or something like that. I have to agree with him. I've tried using my iPad on a stand in an almost vertical position and my arm started aching very quickly, it's just totally unnatural.

As for 3D, there is still a fair way to go before they perfect it.

It's a shame over Blu-Ray though. I still think there is a place for optical drives in computers even though their use is becoming slightly limited. I still prefer to put home videos onto to disc rather than store them on a hard drive.
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Old 29-10-2012, 13:16
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3D - Who wants to sit in front of their TV or computer wearing something similar to sunglasses? 3D isn't a lasting product unless something is done about the need to wear glasses.

Touchscreen - Not practical on vertical surfaces.

Bluray - Apple see disc formats including Bluray as a dead market, so aren't supporting them. Plus I think Bluray would mean paying royalties to other companies for the use of the technology.
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Old 29-10-2012, 15:33
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You wouldn't want them to put these things in their devices. They would then sue every other company that use them claiming they are infringing the Apple design.

Now to be serious. Why is everyone wanting 3D on everything?
It is a gimmick that will wear off eventually. It is good for a bit of entertainment but for everyday usability it will become a pain in the rear.

Touchscreens are all well and good, but then it would make normal computing tasks harder. I like tablets, but I do not own one because they just are not suited for what I do.
If anything I would buy a tablet for a bit of web browsing, but get a proper computer for everything else.
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