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Old 28-10-2012, 13:32
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The Sun says: STRICTLY Come Dancing star Denise Van Outen was groomed by Gary Glitter when she was just 16. (link)

I'm not sure if linking to this breaks any forum rules, and my memory is hazy but I do have a question for anybody who watched the Big Breakfast in the 90's. Now this is all from my hazy early-in-the-morning memory but this is what I remember. Could anybody else fill me in:

<THE FOLLOW IS ALL ALLEGEDLY / FROM MY BAD MEMORY etc..>

Once when Johnny Vaughan and Denise did the "read the papers" section an article about either the gentleman who's just been arrested or possibly a late DJ who has recently been in the news came up. My memory fails me on which man it was.

If I remember correctly Denise made a kind of skin-scrawl expression and then told bits of a story about the man being a friend of the family, or someone who came over the her house for a party. And that she (allegedly) had to sit on his lap and that he (allegedly) had wandering hands.

From the expression on her face and the way she was talking I instantly presumed a certain type of incident took place and that she was uncomfortable in talking about it.

I think I can remember Johnny Vaughan moving on quite quickly to the next topic as he realised they were going a bit too close to a legal boundary.

Now all the above is from a hazy memory and could quite possibly not be true. I cannot remember the man's name but I believe it is one of those two gentleman.

What I'm seeking is somebody else that recalls this episode of the show and might be able to recall what was said better than I can. Thanks.
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Old 28-10-2012, 13:46
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I thought Denise dated Gary for a short while.
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Old 28-10-2012, 13:52
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Presumably the Sun was "grooming" 16 year old girls when it used to have them topless on page three
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Old 28-10-2012, 13:58
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I thought Denise dated Gary for a short while.
LOL really??! That must be a mistake,
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Old 28-10-2012, 14:06
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LOL really??! That must be a mistake,

Van Outen's personal life has been subjected to the sharp glare of the British tabloid media. In 1991, aged 17, she had a relationship with shamed popstar Gary Glitter.

http://celebrity.wikia.com/wiki/Denise_van_Outen

item 6 this link

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/...van-outen.html
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Old 28-10-2012, 14:18
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On Glitter's That's Life there was also a rather uncomfortable story about Glitter befriending Tessa Dahl, who then let him go and stay at her parents (Roald Dahl)'s house. Her younger sister Lucy then would skip school and charge her friends 5 to see Glitter, notably Glitter puts his finger to his lips when he realises what she is talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...k4DIZd4#t=179s
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Old 28-10-2012, 14:23
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On Glitter's That's Life there was also a rather uncomfortable story about Glitter befriending Tessa Dahl, who then let him go and stay at her parents (Roald Dahl)'s house. Her younger sister Lucy then would skip school and charge her friends 5 to see Glitter, notably Glitter puts his finger to his lips when he realises what she is talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...k4DIZd4#t=179s
That's Life? The show with Esther Rantzen?
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Old 28-10-2012, 14:26
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this is your life I imagine the poster means
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Old 28-10-2012, 14:27
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That's Life? The show with Esther Rantzen?
Sorry, This Is Your Life.
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Old 28-10-2012, 14:30
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For years I've been thinking michael aspel was Ester Ranzen and vice versa.
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Old 28-10-2012, 14:40
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If she was sixteen when anything happened then it would all be legal, so a bit of a non-story.
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:08
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Sorry, This Is Your Life.
Oh that. Apparently he behaved very strangely on that show and didn't look best pleased to be "done" by them, I've not watched it and have no desire to, but it's not surprising really given what came out later on.
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:17
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The Sun says: STRICTLY Come Dancing star Denise Van Outen was groomed by Gary Glitter when she was just 16. (link)

I'm not sure if linking to this breaks any forum rules, and my memory is hazy but I do have a question for anybody who watched the Big Breakfast in the 90's. Now this is all from my hazy early-in-the-morning memory but this is what I remember. Could anybody else fill me in:

<THE FOLLOW IS ALL ALLEGEDLY / FROM MY BAD MEMORY etc..>

Once when Johnny Vaughan and Denise did the "read the papers" section an article about either the gentleman who's just been arrested or possibly a late DJ who has recently been in the news came up. My memory fails me on which man it was.

If I remember correctly Denise made a kind of skin-scrawl expression and then told bits of a story about the man being a friend of the family, or someone who came over the her house for a party. And that she (allegedly) had to sit on his lap and that he (allegedly) had wandering hands.

From the expression on her face and the way she was talking I instantly presumed a certain type of incident took place and that she was uncomfortable in talking about it.

I think I can remember Johnny Vaughan moving on quite quickly to the next topic as he realised they were going a bit too close to a legal boundary.

Now all the above is from a hazy memory and could quite possibly not be true. I cannot remember the man's name but I believe it is one of those two gentleman.

What I'm seeking is somebody else that recalls this episode of the show and might be able to recall what was said better than I can. Thanks.
I mentioned something along these lines a while ago on here. I don't remember the above incident but what I do remember is GG being mentioned and DVO saying she couldn't talk about it for legal reasons. This was definitely on The Big Breakfast.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...t=gary+glitter
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:35
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If she was sixteen when anything happened then it would all be legal, so a bit of a non-story.
I think sexual assault (which is what is implied by the OP) is illegal regardless of the age of the victim, isn't it??
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:57
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To the OP - your link doesn't work.
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Old 28-10-2012, 16:05
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To the OP - your link doesn't work.
Thanks. Seems I can't edit it, needs an 'l' on the end of that URL. The link is:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...he-was-16.html
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Old 28-10-2012, 18:55
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I can remember Denise laughing and going all coy when Jonny mentioned her working with Gary Glitter in Panto when she was a teenager... They made it obvious that something had happened, but Denise didn't give the impression it was something that had scarred her...

I remember it well because Denise was a bit of an icon of mine in the 90s and I remember thinking "EEWWW" and feeling a bit dissapointed in her.
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Old 28-10-2012, 19:01
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Thanks. Seems I can't edit it, needs an 'l' on the end of that URL. The link is:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...he-was-16.html
Still only shows the Sun homepage and when you search for DvO all it comes up with is stories on SCD.
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Old 28-10-2012, 19:28
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Still only shows the Sun homepage and when you search for DvO all it comes up with is stories on SCD.
Who or what is SCD?
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Old 28-10-2012, 19:30
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Who or what is SCD?
SCD = Strictly Come Dancing.
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Old 28-10-2012, 19:32
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Not sure about any history between Denise and Glitter however she and Johnny always used his song Rock N Roll Part 2 for sending people out of the room.

remember Steps of woe oh steps of woe steps of woe oh steps of woe.
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Old 28-10-2012, 19:37
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This just seems to be weird that they are all speaking out now. What does the word "Groomed" mean - by Gary Glitter?
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Old 28-10-2012, 19:41
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The Sun says: STRICTLY Come Dancing star Denise Van Outen was groomed by Gary Glitter when she was just 16. (link)

I'm not sure if linking to this breaks any forum rules, and my memory is hazy but I do have a question for anybody who watched the Big Breakfast in the 90's. Now this is all from my hazy early-in-the-morning memory but this is what I remember. Could anybody else fill me in:

<THE FOLLOW IS ALL ALLEGEDLY / FROM MY BAD MEMORY etc..>

Once when Johnny Vaughan and Denise did the "read the papers" section an article about either the gentleman who's just been arrested or possibly a late DJ who has recently been in the news came up. My memory fails me on which man it was.

If I remember correctly Denise made a kind of skin-scrawl expression and then told bits of a story about the man being a friend of the family, or someone who came over the her house for a party. And that she (allegedly) had to sit on his lap and that he (allegedly) had wandering hands.

From the expression on her face and the way she was talking I instantly presumed a certain type of incident took place and that she was uncomfortable in talking about it.

I think I can remember Johnny Vaughan moving on quite quickly to the next topic as he realised they were going a bit too close to a legal boundary.

Now all the above is from a hazy memory and could quite possibly not be true. I cannot remember the man's name but I believe it is one of those two gentleman.

What I'm seeking is somebody else that recalls this episode of the show and might be able to recall what was said better than I can. Thanks.
She was 16

Then there is no story unless there are allegations that he sexually assaulted her.
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Old 28-10-2012, 19:58
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SCD = Strictly Come Dancing.
Thanks.
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Old 28-10-2012, 20:59
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The only way said grooming could be illegal would be if he intended to use her for prostitutuion.
Although Gary Glitter is proof that the advocates of "it's not that big a deal if they're past puberty" are wrong. Men who have a sexual interest in girls of 13 and 14 often have an interest in girls even younger.
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