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Old 28-10-2012, 15:18
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With X Factor acts such as Cher Lloyd, One Direction, Leona Lewis and now Little Mix being stars overseas. Is there any acts in this years crop that could become known well overseas and have a long career ahead of them?

In my opinion I feel that Union J will but not as big as One Direction and if I'm honest thats it. Maybe James if he is given the right material. I can see Ella having big success here and maybe smaller success abroad but not really anyone else. I feel that Melanie may also have a career ahead if she is given the right material and marketed well, I could also see her joining a band?

What do you all think about this years crops future?
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:22
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Ella and Jahmene.
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:27
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I would say no but then I'm shocked that Cher and 1D are popular so what do I know about what kids are into theses days?
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:29
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UK superstars probably. A few albums maybe.

Jahmene might get one or two albums but won't do that much. James Arthur is in the wrong show and can probably leave now and pick up an album but will disappear.

Ella will probably end up a la West End.
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:32
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I would say no but then I'm shocked that Cher and 1D are popular so what do I know about what kids are into theses days?
Or... Simon with his crazy connections and endless supply of promotional funds.
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:45
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Hard to say; Leona seems to be a the descent and obviously Cher Lloyd and One Directions careers have a sell-by date.
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:45
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UK superstars probably. A few albums maybe.

Jahmene might get one or two albums but won't do that much. James Arthur is in the wrong show and can probably leave now and pick up an album but will disappear.

Ella will probably end up a la West End.
People keep saying that Jahmene and Ella will end up in the West End, but to do musicals being able to act, dance or at least have a great stage presence and charisma is important. Although these two can sing neither have any of these qualities.
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:46
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According to Louis Walsh, quite a number of them..
But then, we've heard all of that before.

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Old 28-10-2012, 15:49
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I think the best we can hope for from Ella and Jahmene are albums full of cover songs, coming out around Easter.

Both are talented, with the latter more so than the former, but neither really have the character to pull off a successful album campaign in the current pop market.

Ella continually lacks emotional resonance, which really showed last night. Amy Lee applies such strong emotion to her singing, combining it effortlessly with her already fantastic voice. I think the reason we're constantly reminded Ella's 'Only 16' is because she seriously lacks in many areas of performance.
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:52
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People keep saying that Jahmene and Ella will end up in the West End, but to do musicals being able to act, dance or at least have a great stage presence and charisma is important. Although these two can sing neither have any of these qualities.
Good point, there seems to be this assumption that because people can sing well that they'll make a seamless transition to being able to do well in musicals.

A number of people have done this, of course, Ray Quinn, for example and people coming from a different angle such as Mel C.. but it's not a guarantee..

People were continually pigeon-holing Joe McElderry in the same way, saying his voice would be "great for the West End," and, in terms of "singing str8," i.e. with very little embellishment, so far as coping with the technical demands of musical songs, I'm sure he'd've been able to cope very well, but I can't see Jahmene, with his current style of singing doing very well.

It would depend on the musical, of course, but it's not the sort of thing you can do to Bernstein, Sondheim, or any of the main standard musicals and he'd be pulled up by any M.D. should he attempt to do so..

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Old 28-10-2012, 15:54
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I think the best we can hope for from Ella and Jahmene are albums full of cover songs, coming out around Easter.
Did she not write the song she sang in her audition?

Not that, that, going by past X-Factor artists means anything, or whether she'd have much say in the line up of song, for a first album.

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Old 28-10-2012, 15:56
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Good point, there seems to be this assumption that because people can sing well that they'll make a seamless transition to being able to do well in musicals.

A number of people have done this, of course, Ray Quinn, for example and people coming from a different angle such as Mel C.. but it's not a guarantee..

People were continually pigeon-holing Joe McElderry in the same way, saying his voice would be "great for the West End," and, in terms of "singing str8," i.e. with very little embellishment, so far as coping with the technical demands of musical songs, I'm sure he'd've been able to cope very well, but I can't see Jahmene, with his current style of singing doing very well.

It would depend on the musical, of course, but it's not the sort of thing you can do to Bernstein, Sondheim, or any of the main standard musicals and he'd be pulled up by any M.D. should he attempt to do so..

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I think Marcus will do well in Hairspray too, if he can nail an American accent, that part was almost written for him. As you say it is not as easy as people make out.
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Old 28-10-2012, 15:56
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With X Factor acts such as Cher Lloyd, One Direction, Leona Lewis and now Little Mix being stars overseas. Is there any acts in this years crop that could become known well overseas and have a long career ahead of them?

In my opinion I feel that Union J will but not as big as One Direction and if I'm honest thats it. Maybe James if he is given the right material. I can see Ella having big success here and maybe smaller success abroad but not really anyone else. I feel that Melanie may also have a career ahead if she is given the right material and marketed well, I could also see her joining a band?

What do you all think about this years crops future?
I must have missed all these overseas superstars.

One Direction are stars at the moment - but far from superstars and their last record slumped after debuting in the US.

Leona Lewis only had one really big hit record and album abroad.

Cher Lloyd - one top 20 hit in the US and an album that slumped after spending one week in the bottom end of the US Top 10.

Little Mix - have done nothing outside of the UK.

Hardly all global superstars.

The only real global superstar that has arisen out of this format has been Kelly Clarkson.

And having seen the motley crew served up this year - not a chance!!
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Old 28-10-2012, 16:01
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It'll all depend on management and what they record after the show is finished.
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Old 28-10-2012, 16:15
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Did she not write the song she sang in her audition?

Not that, that, going by past X-Factor artists means anything, or whether she'd have much say in the line up of song, for a first album.

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So it is better that she doesn't win and gets signed by someone who will let her write some of her own stuff.
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Old 28-10-2012, 16:30
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Old 28-10-2012, 16:30
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Union J are the same as One Direction, so them.
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Old 28-10-2012, 16:40
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I must have missed all these overseas superstars.

One Direction are stars at the moment - but far from superstars and their last record slumped after debuting in the US.

Leona Lewis only had one really big hit record and album abroad.

Cher Lloyd - one top 20 hit in the US and an album that slumped after spending one week in the bottom end of the US Top 10.

Little Mix - have done nothing outside of the UK.

Hardly all global superstars.

The only real global superstar that has arisen out of this format has been Kelly Clarkson.

And having seen the motley crew served up this year - not a chance!!
Yes, let's not get carried away..having one hit, or even a few in the U.S. doesn't mean you've totally "cracked," the U.S. market..

We talk about some of these people as if they've had major long-term careers..let's see if we're still talking about them 10 years down the line..
That, for me, would be the acid test..

Some may do well in Europe, again, for a brief period, but international "superstars?"

Leona, long term, I'd say will do well and survive in some way, or another, but as for the rest of them who've had some limited success in the U.S. well, I predict they'll fall as quickly as they've risen..unless they really have something to say..

Mind you, who knows how many of the guys in One Direction will go on to have massive solo careers?



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Old 28-10-2012, 16:40
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So it is better that she doesn't win and gets signed by someone who will let her write some of her own stuff.
Quite!

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Old 28-10-2012, 16:47
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I must have missed all these overseas superstars.

One Direction are stars at the moment - but far from superstars and their last record slumped after debuting in the US.

Leona Lewis only had one really big hit record and album abroad.

Cher Lloyd - one top 20 hit in the US and an album that slumped after spending one week in the bottom end of the US Top 10.

Little Mix - have done nothing outside of the UK.

Hardly all global superstars.

The only real global superstar that has arisen out of this format has been Kelly Clarkson.

And having seen the motley crew served up this year - not a chance!!
This is all true but at at the moment 1D and Cher are pretty big stateside as well as in Australia and many other countries. Little Mix are cracking Australia and I have no doubt that they will also be big in the states. Leona has been the biggest star to come out of X Factor and is very well known stateside. Maybe I worded it wrong but it seemed the best way to put it. Kelly Clarkson is indeed the biggest start to ever come out of a talent show format but her hype hasn't been as big as 1D and I think this will carry on for many more years for them.
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Old 28-10-2012, 17:05
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This is all true but at at the moment 1D and Cher are pretty big stateside as well as in Australia and many other countries. Little Mix are cracking Australia and I have no doubt that they will also be big in the states. Leona has been the biggest star to come out of X Factor and is very well known stateside. Maybe I worded it wrong but it seemed the best way to put it. Kelly Clarkson is indeed the biggest start to ever come out of a talent show format but her hype hasn't been as big as 1D and I think this will carry on for many more years for them.
I'll eat several of my hats if Little Mix have a successful US career..................................
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Old 28-10-2012, 17:07
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This is all true but at at the moment 1D and Cher are pretty big stateside as well as in Australia and many other countries. Little Mix are cracking Australia and I have no doubt that they will also be big in the states. Leona has been the biggest star to come out of X Factor and is very well known stateside. Maybe I worded it wrong but it seemed the best way to put it. Kelly Clarkson is indeed the biggest start to ever come out of a talent show format but her hype hasn't been as big as 1D and I think this will carry on for many more years for them.

Cher and 1D international superstars, I don't think so. The same for Little Mix. They are all average at best.
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Old 28-10-2012, 17:09
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Normally id of said no but with cher lloyd having some success oversees you just never no
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Old 28-10-2012, 17:12
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Re: Ella, for one so young, her talent singing and writing music is enormous! I'd like to hope that she would have a good career at the end of all this? Good management and she'll be fine. Would say James will do quite well in this country.

Can I see any international stars? No but I didn't expect 1D or Cher to have as much stateside success as they have!
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Old 28-10-2012, 17:35
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Re: Ella, for one so young, her talent singing and writing music is enormous! I'd like to hope that she would have a good career at the end of all this? Good management and she'll be fine. Would say James will do quite well in this country.

Can I see any international stars? No but I didn't expect 1D or Cher to have as much stateside success as they have!
I think that 1D and Cher Lloyd have been lucky as they have released their records at the same time as what appears to be a surge in popularity for UK acts in the US. Look at Coldplay, Ellie Goulding, Calvin Harris, Adele, Susan Boyle - and I think that when that current popularity dies so too will their success. As for Little Mix - when you look at the US success with girl groups, I personally dont think they stand a chance. After all, arguably the biggest success out of the format, Girls Aloud, did NOTHING outside of the UK.
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