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Old 28-10-2012, 21:14
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The one on the right in Union J, in my opinion, is the best singer on the show.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:14
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I agree, he's amazing, he's better than all of the boy's category imo
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:20
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He is very good actually.

Shame he's buried away in Union J really, along with who he is as well.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:25
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Now if only he can learn how to spell Jamie and he'll be coasting.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:29
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I really like his voice!

I just wish they hadnt brought that irrelevant fourth member into the group!
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:31
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He's really good, the group would suffer so much without him. Maybe he just lacks the confidence to be a solo artist.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:31
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Nah, Jaymi's talent is just amplified by how trash the rest of his group members are. By himself, he's pretty average.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:32
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He should have entered as a soloist, the other members of that group are average singers at best.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:37
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He is very good actually.

Shame he's buried away in Union J really, along with who he is as well.
You mean that he's gay? To be honest with the other gay representation on this show being Rylan, Lucy and Christopher it's probably a good thing he's hidden away. And not tarred by them
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:39
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You mean that he's gay? To be honest with the other gay representation on this show being Rylan, Lucy and Christopher it's probably a good thing he's hidden away. And not tarred by them


And this is precisely why the show can't get itself out of the out-dated 70's approach to sexuality that it has deliberately reinforced. Stereotypes are damaging because they label people in a far too simplistic fashion, and their existence still is why casual homophobia is far more common than people would like to admit.

No one can be tarnished by their sexuality unless the show has already done a very good job of that already.

At some point it has to be broken.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:44
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And this is precisely why the show can't get itself out of the out-dated 70's approach to sexuality that it has deliberately reinforced.

No one can be tarnished by their sexuality unless the show has already done a very good job of that already.

At some point it has to be broken.
I didn't mean that he would be tarnished by his sexuality per se. I meant that unfortunately because of his sexuality he wouldd be associated with Rylan and Christopher - and probably lose votes because of it.

I always thought Aiden Grimshaw did a good job of breaking the mould.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:46
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I didn't mean that he would be tarnished by his sexuality per se. I meant that unfortunately because of his sexuality he wouldd be associated with Rylan and Christopher - and probably lose votes because of it.

I always thought Aiden Grimshaw did a good job of breaking the mould.
Yeah, I expanded on my post a bit.

It's damaging as well as out-dated, and when you have a vehicle like XF which is designed to shape public opinon in all ways they really should put it to some better use.

Rather than the cheapest, because it's not like that is even working anymore anyway.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:46
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He s brilliant, they need to use him more prominently next week to stay in.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:48
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He's my favourite vocalist on the show.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:48
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I know him - he is a phenomenal singer (also a VERY talented producer). I was disappointed when I thought he was hiding his sexuality, but I just saw the DS interview with him where he states he has a 'thing for men with strong eyebrows'.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:50
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I know him - he is a phenomenal singer (also a VERY talented producer). I was disappointed when I thought he was hiding his sexuality, but I just saw the DS interview with him where he states he has a 'thing for men with strong eyebrows'.
Where's that? Some progress!

The last I saw he was falling out of a Daily Fail article with girls on his arm, dodging questions by being in a relationship, and having to make veiled references like 'she wears the trousers' which could be taken either way.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:51
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I loove Jaymi. Individually he's my favourite contestant this year- amazing voice whilst being the funny, 'bossy one' of the group I always look forward to hearing him sing

However, as much as I hate to say it, I can see why he's in a group because he never made it solo and amongst actual fans of Union J he's easily the least popular
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:51
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Yeah, I expanded on my post a bit.

It's damaging as well as out-dated, and when you have a vehicle like XF which is designed to shape public opinon in all ways they really should put it to some better use.

Rather than the cheapest, because it's not like that is even working anymore anyway.
I really don't think the X Factor has much influence on public opinion anymore. However I do take your point that in most reality tv, anybody who is gay is quite obviously gay. As if every gay person is camp/effeminate and very OTT. Not.

Just as an aside, I was never sure if Aiden Grimshaw was gay or not? (ie I heard rumours to the contrary)
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:54
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I really don't think the X Factor has much influence on public opinion anymore. However I do take your point that in most reality tv, anybody who is gay is quite obviously gay. As if every gay person is camp/effeminate and very OTT. Not.

Just as an aside, I was never sure if Aiden Grimshaw was gay or not? (ie I heard rumours to the contrary)
Look at what is going on this year to see how powerfully it shapes public opinion.

And even changed the voting to make it purely a personality contest now and ramped up the sob-story game because of it. People can be very easily manipulated, if they weren't there would be no adverts on your TV at all.

How people see sexuality is all taken onboard, how people see lots of things is all taken on board. When people are presented as just 1-dimensional stereotypes it also brings out the worst in people. On both sides of that stereotype.

You need a counter to balance it out, or the stereotype becomes fact and is reinforced by those who don't know any better.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:55
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I know him - he is a phenomenal singer (also a VERY talented producer). I was disappointed when I thought he was hiding his sexuality, but I just saw the DS interview with him where he states he has a 'thing for men with strong eyebrows'.
Ah yeah I watched that interview. He seems like a lovely person as well.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:56
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I didn't know Christopher was gay
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:57
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Yup I was pretty blown away and taken aback about how good he was in that sing off. He is great. I wish he was a solo artist.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:57
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The one on the right in Union J, in my opinion, is the best singer on the show.
I like his cover of I Breathe Again - been on my iPod for years!
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:58
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I didn't know Christopher was gay
I'm not sure the Anti-Chris(t) would be fussy, nor bothered with it actually when there are worlds to end.

Probably why he lives with his nan.
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Old 28-10-2012, 21:58
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Look at what is going on this year to see how powerfully it shapes public opinion.

And even changed the voting to make it purely a personality contest now and ramped up the sob-story game because of it. People can be very easily manipulated, if they weren't there would be no adverts on your TV at all.

How people see sexuality is all taken onboard, how people see lots of things is all taken on board. When people are presented as just 1-dimensional stereotypes it also brings out the worst in people. On both sides of that stereotype.

You need a counter to balance it out, or the stereotype becomes fact and is reinforced by those who don't know any better.

Maybe you're right. I don't think he will be allowed to come out now though. With Union J having been in the bottom 2.
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