[whoever,hey]

Originally Posted by Dai13371

And more to the point, why on earth would Google give two hoots whether I was home in Ammanford or at work in Merthyr. Why would anyone care really. I just love the way it tells me that one lane is closed on the A465 because of a collision. so helpful.

Yep, i go different routes home sometimes because it warns me there are big delays on the motorway. Actually useful to the quality of life cutting down commuting time.

[swordman]

anyone use sky go on the 4?

watching something when you press the screen say to adjust brightness the on screen buttons pop up and they don't disappear again or does it just take a while. .... anyone!!

[slick1two]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...s-devices.html

4.2.2 has rolled out on other nexus devices. Said to bring bug and performance fixes. Not available for N4 so far. Apparently it's supposed to fix a few issues that aren't on the n4. But I image we will still see it right? Not a big deal though and doesn't appear to bring anything new.

[hutchingsp]

Anyone have any suggestions or experiences of cases or screen and back protectors?

Part of me loves the feel of the glass, but even though I'm very careful how I treat things I keep thinking I should get some sort of plastic film.

[The Sack]

I got one of these as a put me on but it is great http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AF7JBDA

I have also on order a Rearth Rinkie Slim http://www.rearthusa.com/google-nexu...ngke-slim-case

Not bothered with a screen protector.

[Stuart_h]

Originally Posted by hutchingsp

Anyone have any suggestions or experiences of cases or screen and back protectors?

Part of me loves the feel of the glass, but even though I'm very careful how I treat things I keep thinking I should get some sort of plastic film.

I have the basic (cheap) S-line protector for my Galaxy Nexus and the kids have the same for their Nexus 4s. They fit perfectly and my Galaxy Nexus looks pristine under the cover after a year, They also add good grip. Worth a punt at a couple of quid even if its just whilst you are researching longer term solutions.

Screen protectors are trickier as the N4 screen is tapered at the edge. The protectors I ordered dont fit all the way across.

EDIT : Someone beat me to it with a link (above) to the S-line covers. should be only £3-£4 tops !

[The Sack]

Yup, mine was £1.95 inc P&P mate.

[noise747]

Originally Posted by neo_wales

But they don't know about you, just where your phones been; I am amazed your even online given your level of paranoia to be honest.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...F8&me=&seller= will do all you need. But remember, 'They' can track any mobile phone

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You are not funny, you may think you are, but you are not and being sarcastic don't suit you.

The 3310 was and still is a good phone, my old one is still at my dads place and a mate of mine have been using one for years and i can't see him giving that up to be honest.

I do know that mobile phones can be tracked.

[lamby]

I wish the Nexus 4 had 4g, i would sell my HTC One X and get that.

[konebyvax]

Originally Posted by lamby

I wish the Nexus 4 had 4g, i would sell my HTC One X and get that.

I have a feeling the 'revised' model will include it (it's there but disabled at the moment) but in the meantime DC-HSDPA is available and at no extra cost. If you are in a DC-HSDPA enabled area, of course.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2046568561.png

[slick1two]

Originally Posted by lamby

I wish the Nexus 4 had 4g, i would sell my HTC One X and get that.

It's got HSPA+42 which is actually very good. On Three's network I got a a top speed of 16mbps download and 2.2 mbps upload last week. All running off 3g. That's plenty fast. Don't let lack of 4g detract you from buying a nexus. it's a very quick phone. web pages render and load very quickly, lag free with a good browser. I was even streaming the England v Brazil game last week, using TV catchup and streamed very well, no buffering at all.

[Scotty2012]

Got my update to 4.2.2

[Stiggles]

Originally Posted by Scotty2012

Got my update to 4.2.2

/checks mine....

Nope, nothing here.

[kidspud]

Originally Posted by Stiggles

/checks mine....

Nope, nothing here.

Now I'm confused. I thought the point of going nexus (apart from it being a good phone) was because you get the updates immediately. How come they seem to be staggered?

[Stiggles]

Originally Posted by kidspud

Now I'm confused. I thought the point of going nexus (apart from it being a good phone) was because you get the updates immediately. How come they seem to be staggered?

They do. Will just be down to server load i would imagine. Same happened to me with my iphone. Came for me the next day after release.

[Stuart_h]

Originally Posted by kidspud

Now I'm confused. I thought the point of going nexus (apart from it being a good phone) was because you get the updates immediately. How come they seem to be staggered?

lol. no you arent confused

staggered over a few days to prevent server overload. Dont forget that these are OTA pushed updates - sometimes quite hefty. Can you imagine what the network providers would say for starters if every Nexus Device owner was given the update at the same time on the same day ???

[pi r squared]

Originally Posted by Stuart_h

staggered over a few days to prevent server overload. Dont forget that these are OTA pushed updates - sometimes quite hefty.

I see this "reason" come up every time. It's almost as if we forget this is Google we're talking about. There are millions of Android phones in the world, all accessing Google servers constantly for mail, calendar, location stuff, mapping, navigation, searches, etc. On top of that, the vast majority of those will also be hitting the Play Store regularly, downloading millions of apps, some of which can run into GBs of data. Do we honestly believe that a piddly little 51MB OTA update offered to all Nexus users at the same time - bearing in mind, they will be self-staggering to a certain degree anyway as people will all be in different timezones, not checking their phone as they're at work, some people wait until later to download updates, etc.; and also bearing in mind that there's a comparitively small number of Nexus 4s in the world since they've been so hard to get hold of - will make Google collapse?

[The Sack]

Trouble is if you have millions downloading a "piddly" 50MB all at once the server strain would be immense.

The examples you give are people accessing different files from all over the shop.

[pi r squared]

Originally Posted by The Sack

Trouble is if you have millions downloading a "piddly" 50MB all at once the server strain would be immense.

The examples you give are people accessing different files from all over the shop.

One assumes that Google aren't just running an Apache server in Larry Page's bedroom with everyone clambering over the same 50MB file. Their systems are sophisticated enough that that load can be distributed across multiple servers. And again, it isn't the case that every phone simultaneously downloads the file - some will be off, or not connected to the network, or simply not checked - so the downloads will be self-staggering.

And I don't think it's reasonable to suggest there are "millions" of Nexus 4s in the world.

[denyo1977]

But it's not only the Nexus 4 getting the update either!

[pi r squared]

Originally Posted by denyo1977

But it's not only the Nexus 4 getting the update either!

No, I get that. The update is different files for each device and each variation of each device, so it's still not like you've suddenly got 10 million devices all clambering over the same file. But that is already addressed by the fact that the updates are rolled out at different times to different devices anyway - the Nexus 4 update was released at least a day after the Galaxy Nexus one, for instance.

Look, I get that we all love Android and the Nexus program and are generally fiercely defensive of Google. But do we really think that Google, of all people, couldn't successfully manage the load of all of their own devices (we're not talking EVERY Android phone here) all accessing the update at roughly the same time? Yet Apple manage it, with substantially more devices to handle, and one would imagine substantially less server grunt available to them.

[denyo1977]

Well, neither you or I know what the exact reason is.
Maybe they don't want to release a f***ed up version to every Nexus owner at the same time like Apple did with 6.1

[gavo360]

This is my first android phone but can you download the OTA update over 3G and if so maybe that's the reason its a staggered update so they dont upset the networks. Apple only allow you to update over WiFi which us probably why everyone can get it the minute it out even thought updating iOS can be a slow process on the first day of release and iOS beta is very popular so apple have a good idea how it works on all makes and models before everyone gets it.

I'm pretty confident to say Google servers can handle all nexus devices receiving the update in the first 24 hours but maybe they just want to release it to say 20% on the first day to see how it goes then let everyone have it if there is no major problems.

[iHelix]

I got my Nexus 4 this morning, which I'm still surprised about considering I only ordered from Google yesterday and the estimated shipping date was Feb 28th.

It's a truly gorgeous device. Fast, the screen quality is excellent and I'm beyond thrilled with it for the price it was at.

[denyo1977]

If we were at an Apple store, we would all get up and clap now
But welcome to the Nexus family anyway