EE LTE speed threads

SkyPlatinum · 30-10-2012, 13:29

I would interested to know if you have 4GEE. The speeds you are getting, location and what phone you have ? Is there a speed cap ?

Everything Goes · 30-10-2012, 13:53

Here is a bit of a cheat. Rory Cellan-Jones on BBC News did a few tests. He was based in Manchester Salford area he did a speed test about 1.15pm on an iPhone 5 and got 13Mb Down and 6Mb Up.

A speed test he ran early this morning was 19Mb Down and 7.5Mb Up. See video clip:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20121025

FortyTwo25 · 30-10-2012, 14:15

I would help...if I knew how to do this

Everything Goes · 30-10-2012, 14:22

Commonly used speed test website:

http://www.speedtest.net/

Apps can be found here:

http://www.speedtest.net/mobile.php

Everything Goes · 31-10-2012, 12:20

Rory Cellan-Jones posted a whole load of speed tests. EE users will be bitterly disappointed in the real world speeds which im guessing have been well and truly throttled or are just not up to expectations

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20121054

BrightSparks · 31-10-2012, 13:55

They have capped it at 12meg so ive seen, But there saying on the news ect 'its 5x faster then 3g' Jesus i get 6-7meg on 3g now so if they keep the cap at 12meg its hardly going to be worth changing over to it while these stupidly low data limits are still that low

The Lord Lucan · 31-10-2012, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrightSparks

They have capped it at 12meg so ive seen, But there saying on the news ect 'its 5x faster then 3g' Jesus i get 6-7meg on 3g now so if they keep the cap at 12meg its hardly going to be worth changing over to it while these stupidly low data limits are still that low

How can it be capped at 12 when some of the tests many of the media are doing, are in excess of 12 by quite a margin. Please don't just spout random thoughts.

red_g00ner · 31-10-2012, 14:06

Surely those speeds are comparable to HSPA+

I think 4G is a bit of a gimmick. I would much rather the telecoms companies invested in there existing 3G infrastructure. Would much rather have less congested masts and better backhaul connections.

daleski75 · 31-10-2012, 14:39

Look at coolsmartphone's test with 1 bar on 4G as a case in point, there is NO cap at 12mb on EE and the speeds capable on 4G are far higher than HSPA+ so if it really was the case that 4G wasn't that much better then why bother rolling it out just stick with DC-HSPA+

Sorry for the rant just see lots of misinformation here.

Everything Goes · 31-10-2012, 14:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleski75

Look at coolsmartphone's test with 1 bar on 4G as a case in point, there is NO cap at 12mb on EE and the speeds capable on 4G are far higher than HSPA+ so if it really was the case that 4G wasn't that much better then why bother rolling it out just stick with DC-HSPA+

Sorry for the rant just see lots of misinformation here.

HSPA+ up to 21Mb
DC-HSPA+ up to 42Mb

EE's 4G seems to average around 16Mb so certainly not living up to expectations with practically no users on the 4G service so no congestion issues to deal with unlike 3G.

davybhoy · 31-10-2012, 15:26

Well I have just ordered my EE 4GEE sim and tariff and I can't even get 4GEE yet. I pay £46 p/m for 3Gb data anyway so it makes no odds to me when I did it except for that you have to start a new 24 month contract so the quicker I did it, the quicker my new contract started! Bring on the 4GEE Belfast roll out!!

Also, you get a free swappable with EE including the free Sky channels which DON'T come out of your data bundle. I was using my own data for Sky Go which I now don't have to do as soon as my new sim gets here in a few days

EDIT: Will be closer to end of 2012 before the Sky channels are available but even still, it's a good deal

red_g00ner · 31-10-2012, 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleski75

Look at coolsmartphone's test with 1 bar on 4G as a case in point, there is NO cap at 12mb on EE and the speeds capable on 4G are far higher than HSPA+ so if it really was the case that 4G wasn't that much better then why bother rolling it out just stick with DC-HSPA+

Sorry for the rant just see lots of misinformation here.

I agree with you that theoretically speeds are greater, but TBH, l was using my Three mobile tethered to my 55" TV and streaming Netflix quite happily.

Just saying that l think the money could of been spent improving the current infrastructure.

Everything Goes · 31-10-2012, 16:58

Ive asked paulker if he could post results on this tread but he said he got 4Mb in Glasgow with a signal 1 on his 4G MiFi probably a Huawei E589.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=3341

http://shop.ee.co.uk/huawei-e589-mbi...nthly/details/

paulker · 31-10-2012, 19:16

Well, I received the mifi at work in the biggest industrial estate in Scotland. I get a whole one bar 4g outside! Managed 4 meg.. I will try it in other better served locations just for geek purposes but its going back as I wanted fast internet at work. There is no fibre cabinet serving me and my adsl is ****.

Oh and the mifi is HUGE.

paulker · 31-10-2012, 19:17

Ok, I had a wee jaunt around Glasgow this evening and if I am honest finding a useable 4g signal was like trying to find a needle in a haystack. I locked my mifi to 4G and it showed no service a lot of the time and another big chunk of the time it had 0 bars. In a huge area there were 3 masts that were live. I stopped beside two of the masts and did a speed test. The best I got was 13 meg down and 20 meg up.

I actually felt like laughing it was so bad. I am disgusted that EE have the cheek to say that Glasgow has 4G service. Ok, I didnt go into the centre of the city but I wasn't in the sticks either. I was in highly populated areas.

I am sending the mifi back and I am also considering not switching my iphone over. If I did switch it would only be because I have just started a 24 month contract and dont want to wait 6 months to then have to start another one on EE. If I do switch next week I will have to switch LTE off as it will be on 0 bars all the time. I am not sure of the technical side to this but if I dont switch it off will this mean that I will miss calls all the time? Maybe not as 3g supoorts calls and 4g is data only. Not sure on this one. PLYMOUTH!!!!

Everything Goes · 31-10-2012, 21:16

The coverage map for Glasgow looks a bit patchy I guess it will improve in time. How long that will be is anybody's guess. At least the Huawei E589 does 3G and 2G so its not completely useless. But the price plan makes it a bit of a waste of money.

Guess its not worthwhile investing in 4G at this point in time.

daleski75 · 01-11-2012, 08:46

It's still very early days yet for 4GEE and I expect there will be a fair amount of issues before they get everything working properly but just look at what they have accomplished so far so I am sure they will iron out all the bugs etc.

danielmeah · 02-11-2012, 19:14

4 Bars, Liverpool & L15

Lots of congestion by the looks of it.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281960003.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281961957.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281963349.png

wavejockglw · 02-11-2012, 20:26

Who has been daft enough to pay EE for the privilage?

Don't do too many spped tests or the 500MB allowance will be consumed for the £36 a month fee!

Everything Goes · 02-11-2012, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielmeah

4 Bars, Liverpool & L15

Lots of congestion by the looks of it.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281960003.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281961957.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281963349.png

There is no way it will be congestion. There are very few users of 4G. These seem consistent with other speedtests on 4G. Looks more like EE overestimated real life 4G speeds

danielmeah · 02-11-2012, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

There is no way it will be congestion. There are very few users of 4G. These seem consistent with other speedtests on 4G. Looks more like EE overestimated real life 4G speeds

Congestion in the backhaul is very possible. i image the orange and ee masts share the same backhaul.

As orange is just as slow!

wavejockglw · 02-11-2012, 20:36

Who in their right mind would pay EE £36 a month for 500MB of data on an LTE network.

LTE is about fast mobile data to watch movies, TV, enjoy multimedia according to EE, but with 500MB that is not possible. A bit like being given a sports car and an empty motorway with a litre of fuel.

EE seem to think that consumers are uneducated idiots.

Thine Wonk · 02-11-2012, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

Who has been daft enough to pay EE for the privilage?

Don't do too many spped tests or the 500MB allowance will be consumed for the £36 a month fee!

PMSL I was thinking the same actually. I just looked at my data allowance, did a speed test and then refreshed it and it uses about 10MB per test, so with such a tiny data allowance for £36 you could do about 50 speed tests and then it's game over.

You really could use your whole allowance on speed tests quite easily.

danielmeah · 02-11-2012, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

Who in their right mind would pay EE £36 a month for 500MB of data on an LTE network.

LTE is about fast mobile data to watch movies, TV, enjoy multimedia according to EE, but with 500MB that is not possible. A bit like being given a sports car and an empty motorway with a litre of fuel.

EE seem to think consumers are uneducated idiots.

Agreed, Hence why i got the Mobile broadband plan instead!

The Lord Lucan · 02-11-2012, 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

PMSL I was thinking the same actually. I just looked at my data allowance, did a speed test and then refreshed it and it uses about 10MB per test, so with such a tiny data allowance for £36 you could do about 50 speed tests and then it's game over.

You really could use your whole allowance on speed tests quite easily.

If the speeds were in the higher area say 20-25mbps you'd get a good bit less than 50 tests!!

30-10-2012, 13:29	#1
SkyPlatinum Inactive Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 769	EE LTE speed threads I would interested to know if you have 4GEE. The speeds you are getting, location and what phone you have ? Is there a speed cap ?

30-10-2012, 13:53	#2
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Here is a bit of a cheat. Rory Cellan-Jones on BBC News did a few tests. He was based in Manchester Salford area he did a speed test about 1.15pm on an iPhone 5 and got 13Mb Down and 6Mb Up. A speed test he ran early this morning was 19Mb Down and 7.5Mb Up. See video clip: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20121025

30-10-2012, 14:15	#3
FortyTwo25 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: London Posts: 4,904	I would help...if I knew how to do this

30-10-2012, 14:22	#4
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Commonly used speed test website: http://www.speedtest.net/ Apps can be found here: http://www.speedtest.net/mobile.php

31-10-2012, 12:20	#5
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Rory Cellan-Jones posted a whole load of speed tests. EE users will be bitterly disappointed in the real world speeds which im guessing have been well and truly throttled or are just not up to expectations http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20121054

31-10-2012, 13:55	#6
BrightSparks Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: uk Posts: 1,029	They have capped it at 12meg so ive seen, But there saying on the news ect 'its 5x faster then 3g' Jesus i get 6-7meg on 3g now so if they keep the cap at 12meg its hardly going to be worth changing over to it while these stupidly low data limits are still that low

31-10-2012, 14:04	#7
The Lord Lucan Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,966	Quote: Originally Posted by BrightSparks They have capped it at 12meg so ive seen, But there saying on the news ect 'its 5x faster then 3g' Jesus i get 6-7meg on 3g now so if they keep the cap at 12meg its hardly going to be worth changing over to it while these stupidly low data limits are still that low How can it be capped at 12 when some of the tests many of the media are doing, are in excess of 12 by quite a margin. Please don't just spout random thoughts.

31-10-2012, 14:06	#8
red_g00ner Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 790	Surely those speeds are comparable to HSPA+ I think 4G is a bit of a gimmick. I would much rather the telecoms companies invested in there existing 3G infrastructure. Would much rather have less congested masts and better backhaul connections.

31-10-2012, 14:39	#9
daleski75 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Northampton Posts: 1,014	Look at coolsmartphone's test with 1 bar on 4G as a case in point, there is NO cap at 12mb on EE and the speeds capable on 4G are far higher than HSPA+ so if it really was the case that 4G wasn't that much better then why bother rolling it out just stick with DC-HSPA+ Sorry for the rant just see lots of misinformation here.

31-10-2012, 14:46	#10
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by daleski75 Look at coolsmartphone's test with 1 bar on 4G as a case in point, there is NO cap at 12mb on EE and the speeds capable on 4G are far higher than HSPA+ so if it really was the case that 4G wasn't that much better then why bother rolling it out just stick with DC-HSPA+ Sorry for the rant just see lots of misinformation here. HSPA+ up to 21Mb DC-HSPA+ up to 42Mb EE's 4G seems to average around 16Mb so certainly not living up to expectations with practically no users on the 4G service so no congestion issues to deal with unlike 3G.

31-10-2012, 15:26	#11
davybhoy Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,241	Well I have just ordered my EE 4GEE sim and tariff and I can't even get 4GEE yet. I pay £46 p/m for 3Gb data anyway so it makes no odds to me when I did it except for that you have to start a new 24 month contract so the quicker I did it, the quicker my new contract started! Bring on the 4GEE Belfast roll out!! Also, you get a free swappable with EE including the free Sky channels which DON'T come out of your data bundle. I was using my own data for Sky Go which I now don't have to do as soon as my new sim gets here in a few days EDIT: Will be closer to end of 2012 before the Sky channels are available but even still, it's a good deal

31-10-2012, 15:45	#12
red_g00ner Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 790	Quote: Originally Posted by daleski75 Look at coolsmartphone's test with 1 bar on 4G as a case in point, there is NO cap at 12mb on EE and the speeds capable on 4G are far higher than HSPA+ so if it really was the case that 4G wasn't that much better then why bother rolling it out just stick with DC-HSPA+ Sorry for the rant just see lots of misinformation here. I agree with you that theoretically speeds are greater, but TBH, l was using my Three mobile tethered to my 55" TV and streaming Netflix quite happily. Just saying that l think the money could of been spent improving the current infrastructure.

31-10-2012, 16:58	#13
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Ive asked paulker if he could post results on this tread but he said he got 4Mb in Glasgow with a signal 1 on his 4G MiFi probably a Huawei E589. http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=3341 http://shop.ee.co.uk/huawei-e589-mbi...nthly/details/

31-10-2012, 19:16	#14
paulker Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 901	Well, I received the mifi at work in the biggest industrial estate in Scotland. I get a whole one bar 4g outside! Managed 4 meg.. I will try it in other better served locations just for geek purposes but its going back as I wanted fast internet at work. There is no fibre cabinet serving me and my adsl is ****. Oh and the mifi is HUGE.

31-10-2012, 19:17	#15
paulker Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 901	Ok, I had a wee jaunt around Glasgow this evening and if I am honest finding a useable 4g signal was like trying to find a needle in a haystack. I locked my mifi to 4G and it showed no service a lot of the time and another big chunk of the time it had 0 bars. In a huge area there were 3 masts that were live. I stopped beside two of the masts and did a speed test. The best I got was 13 meg down and 20 meg up. I actually felt like laughing it was so bad. I am disgusted that EE have the cheek to say that Glasgow has 4G service. Ok, I didnt go into the centre of the city but I wasn't in the sticks either. I was in highly populated areas. I am sending the mifi back and I am also considering not switching my iphone over. If I did switch it would only be because I have just started a 24 month contract and dont want to wait 6 months to then have to start another one on EE. If I do switch next week I will have to switch LTE off as it will be on 0 bars all the time. I am not sure of the technical side to this but if I dont switch it off will this mean that I will miss calls all the time? Maybe not as 3g supoorts calls and 4g is data only. Not sure on this one. PLYMOUTH!!!!

31-10-2012, 21:16	#16
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	The coverage map for Glasgow looks a bit patchy I guess it will improve in time. How long that will be is anybody's guess. At least the Huawei E589 does 3G and 2G so its not completely useless. But the price plan makes it a bit of a waste of money. Guess its not worthwhile investing in 4G at this point in time.

01-11-2012, 08:46	#17
daleski75 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Northampton Posts: 1,014	It's still very early days yet for 4GEE and I expect there will be a fair amount of issues before they get everything working properly but just look at what they have accomplished so far so I am sure they will iron out all the bugs etc.

02-11-2012, 19:14	#18
danielmeah Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Liverpool(L15)l, UK Posts: 458	4 Bars, Liverpool & L15 Lots of congestion by the looks of it. http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281960003.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281961957.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281963349.png

02-11-2012, 20:26	#19
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Who has been daft enough to pay EE for the privilage? Don't do too many spped tests or the 500MB allowance will be consumed for the £36 a month fee!

02-11-2012, 20:30	#20
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by danielmeah 4 Bars, Liverpool & L15 Lots of congestion by the looks of it. http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281960003.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281961957.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2281963349.png There is no way it will be congestion. There are very few users of 4G. These seem consistent with other speedtests on 4G. Looks more like EE overestimated real life 4G speeds

02-11-2012, 20:34	#21
danielmeah Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Liverpool(L15)l, UK Posts: 458	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes There is no way it will be congestion. There are very few users of 4G. These seem consistent with other speedtests on 4G. Looks more like EE overestimated real life 4G speeds Congestion in the backhaul is very possible. i image the orange and ee masts share the same backhaul. As orange is just as slow!

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EE LTE speed threads

02-11-2012, 20:36	#22
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Who in their right mind would pay EE £36 a month for 500MB of data on an LTE network. LTE is about fast mobile data to watch movies, TV, enjoy multimedia according to EE, but with 500MB that is not possible. A bit like being given a sports car and an empty motorway with a litre of fuel. EE seem to think that consumers are uneducated idiots.

02-11-2012, 20:37	#23
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw Who has been daft enough to pay EE for the privilage? Don't do too many spped tests or the 500MB allowance will be consumed for the £36 a month fee! PMSL I was thinking the same actually. I just looked at my data allowance, did a speed test and then refreshed it and it uses about 10MB per test, so with such a tiny data allowance for £36 you could do about 50 speed tests and then it's game over. You really could use your whole allowance on speed tests quite easily.

02-11-2012, 23:37	#25
The Lord Lucan Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,966	Quote: Originally Posted by Thine Wonk PMSL I was thinking the same actually. I just looked at my data allowance, did a speed test and then refreshed it and it uses about 10MB per test, so with such a tiny data allowance for £36 you could do about 50 speed tests and then it's game over. You really could use your whole allowance on speed tests quite easily. If the speeds were in the higher area say 20-25mbps you'd get a good bit less than 50 tests!!