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Voting Not Rigged
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baileybots
13-12-2004
page 131 teletext reports that the voting was not rigged and was scrutinised by independant ajudicator Edward Boddington, the voting was close but Steve was a favorite from the start, simon would have worked with G4 if they had won, sharons outburst made no difference, G4 not allowed to release anything until three month contract expires, .....if this is the case G4 should have gotten some good material as well as some original songs together for an album
MochaFrapuccino
13-12-2004
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“page 131 teletext reports that the voting was not rigged and was scrutinised by independant ajudicator Edward Boddington, the voting was close but Steve was a favorite from the start, simon would have worked with G4 if they had won, sharons outburst made no difference, G4 not allowed to release anything until three month contract expires, .....if this is the case G4 should have gotten some good material as well as some original songs together for an album”

No one suggested it was.

Does it give percentages for the whole competition or just the final?
baileybots
13-12-2004
Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“No one suggested it was.

Does it give percentages for the whole competition or just the final?”

pardon me , i thought someone would like to know, there seems to be a lot of if, whats and buts on this forum lately
The Dreaming
13-12-2004
Thanks for that, although I suspect that a lot of the posters here will be disappointed to here that. Oh well, I guess it's on to the next conspiracy theory. Any takers?
MochaFrapuccino
13-12-2004
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“pardon me , i thought someone would like to know, there seems to be a lot of if, whats and buts on this forum lately”


Oh calm down please! What's wrong with everybody today?!

I wasn't attacking you!

How about answering my question though?
baileybots
13-12-2004
Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“Oh calm down please! What's wrong with everybody today?!

I wasn't attacking you!

How about answering my question though? ”

no percentages reported on there, just some people who had phoned and asked how sharon knew steve was going to win before the finish, some reports on what jon had said and that the vote was close
MochaFrapuccino
13-12-2004
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“no percentages reported on there, just some people who had phoned and asked how sharon knew steve was going to win before the finish, some reports on what jon had said and that the vote was close”


Ah ok. Thank you
Susann
13-12-2004
Thanks for posting that Bailey
me4ro
13-12-2004
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“page 131 teletext reports that the voting was not rigged and was scrutinised by independant ajudicator Edward Boddington, the voting was close but Steve was a favorite from the start, simon would have worked with G4 if they had won, sharons outburst made no difference, G4 not allowed to release anything until three month contract expires, .....if this is the case G4 should have gotten some good material as well as some original songs together for an album”

excellent baileybots...the very idea that it could be is ludicrous..phone companies, people counting, ITV, BMG..there are reputations at stake for goodness sake..whatever steve gained in sharongate...he lost in the sharon fanclub. ..G4 fan club...both sides double, triple voting and all the mud slinging effects would cancel it all out..HE won..G4 will be signed and thats it
baileybots
13-12-2004
Originally Posted by me4ro:
“excellent baileybots...the very idea that it could be is ludicrous..phone companies, people counting, ITV, BMG..there are reputations at stake for goodness sake..whatever steve gained in sharongate...he lost in the sharon fanclub. ..G4 fan club...both sides double, triple voting and all the mud slinging effects would cancel it all out..HE won..G4 will be signed and thats it ”

it looks like there are still a lot of people that cant accept it, its a shame all the people concerned have to come out and defend it
jamesrlaming
13-12-2004
I dont think the voting is rigged, many people would like to believe it but it was cause to much trouble in the end if it was rigged, people have to accept whent heir favourites out, their favourites out.
Mykonos
13-12-2004
Originally Posted by jamesrlaming:
“I dont think the voting is rigged, many people would like to believe it but it was cause to much trouble in the end if it was rigged, people have to accept whent heir favourites out, their favourites out.”


If the stories about G4 being signed today are correct,I'm mad at myself for voting ONCE on Saturday (for Steve).
baileybots
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by fannianni:
“If the stories about G4 being signed today are correct,I'm mad at myself for voting ONCE on Saturday (for Steve). ”

the news says that G4 are under contract to simon cowell for the next three months
Deelight2004
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“the news says that G4 are under contract to simon cowell for the next three months”

Yep, I just read that too!!!
baileybots
14-12-2004
i think all this deal signing is a lot of spin by louie, they might have had offers but they cant do a thing for the next three months without simons say so, somehow i dont think louie will like that
metafis
14-12-2004
G4 are'nt signed to Simon as in having a record deal, they are under contract, because any of the losing contestants are not allowed to release anything for 3 months. After this 3 months, Simons contract lapses and Louis is free to sign them up. afaik
pennycandle
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by metafis:
“G4 are'nt signed to Simon as in having a record deal, they are under contract, because any of the losing contestants are not allowed to release anything for 3 months. After this 3 months, Simons contract lapses and Louis is free to sign them up. afaik”

Louis is a manager, not a record producer.......they are already under his management. The other contestants are not allowed to sign and release any material for 3 months......with other record companies. G4 are signing with Sony/BMG so therefore this rule does apply as Sony/BMG sponsored the X Factor.
metafis
14-12-2004
sorry , yes hes their manager. So what of Simons comment that only the winner would be signed up?.
(Im not having a pop at G4 btw, just trying to understand what Simons comment meant in light of your information Penny. )
baileybots
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“Louis is a manager, not a record producer.......they are already under his management. The other contestants are not allowed to sign and release any material for 3 months......with other record companies. G4 are signing with Sony/BMG so therefore this rule does apply as Sony/BMG sponsored the X Factor.”

syco is independant of sony/ bmg the rules do apply even if sony /bmg sponser the winner, syco has no tyes to any record company
metafis
14-12-2004
So if G4 are signing with sony/bmg, are they still bound by the 'not allowed to release anything for 3 months' clause?. ie sony/bmg signed them up to ensure they have a contract with G4, so they can release stuff after 3 months?.
baileybots
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by metafis:
“So if G4 are signing with sony/bmg, are they still bound by the 'not allowed to release anything for 3 months' clause?. ie sony/bmg signed them up to ensure they have a contract with G4, so they can release stuff after 3 months?.”

basically yes,... only simons permission through syco can let them release a record before the three months are up
Peppermint
14-12-2004
which he aint going to do with OLD Stevie getting booed he will be needing all the times he can get now to promote him to have something credible. it means none of them can do anything unless the contract says so and I thinks the contract allows g4s and the others to have a bit of promotion in the maggys and media, but no records can be released, released YES you understand now but they can do a deal and it can be sorted, they can sit and write songs, they can sit and make arrangements they can sort lots but not do it til whatever date in march the contract it up for me that is March 12. and think sony is sony classic I read over on the pop idol uk site anyway and I thinks they knows what they was on about.

PM
metafis
14-12-2004
Peppermint,. ya a legend
Mykonos
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“Louis is a manager, not a record producer.......they are already under his management. The other contestants are not allowed to sign and release any material for 3 months......with other record companies. G4 are signing with Sony/BMG so therefore this rule does apply as Sony/BMG sponsored the X Factor.”


Could you please quote a source for saying that 'the rule does not apply'.
baileybots
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by metafis:
“sorry , yes hes their manager. So what of Simons comment that only the winner would be signed up?.
(Im not having a pop at G4 btw, just trying to understand what Simons comment meant in light of your information Penny. )”

love to know where penny gets her info, she must be a really high up recording exec
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