Gareth Gates released a single within a few weeks of Will Young winning Pop Idol. Gareth was also signed by Simon Cowell so the contract about not releasing anything within three months, which the other PI contestants were held to, was disregarded. If G4 are being signed by any subsiduary of Simon's company, I would guess that they will be allowed to ignore the three month rule too.
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well lets hope simon hasnt held himself open to any kind of legal action, saying one thing and doing another is a bit dodgey
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“well lets hope simon hasnt held himself open to any kind of legal action, saying one thing and doing another is a bit dodgey”
“well lets hope simon hasnt held himself open to any kind of legal action, saying one thing and doing another is a bit dodgey”
Perhaps he'll be the next Prime Minister?
Originally Posted by cazkins:
“Gareth Gates released a single within a few weeks of Will Young winning Pop Idol. Gareth was also signed by Simon Cowell so the contract about not releasing anything within three months, which the other PI contestants were held to, was disregarded. If G4 are being signed by any subsiduary of Simon's company, I would guess that they will be allowed to ignore the three month rule too.”
“Gareth Gates released a single within a few weeks of Will Young winning Pop Idol. Gareth was also signed by Simon Cowell so the contract about not releasing anything within three months, which the other PI contestants were held to, was disregarded. If G4 are being signed by any subsiduary of Simon's company, I would guess that they will be allowed to ignore the three month rule too.”
......same thing happened on FA1 and FA2 .....both runners-up signed to subsidiaries of winner`s record companies and both released singles within 3/4 weeks of winner. I can`t see G4 having to wait until March. Bring it on boys
Originally Posted by cazkins:
“Perhaps he'll be the next Prime Minister?”
“Perhaps he'll be the next Prime Minister?
”
.......that`ll be me off to Immigration House then
Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“......same thing happened on FA1 and FA2 .....both runners-up signed to subsidiaries of winner`s record companies and both released singles within 3/4 weeks of winner. I can`t see G4 having to wait until March. Bring it on boys ”
“......same thing happened on FA1 and FA2 .....both runners-up signed to subsidiaries of winner`s record companies and both released singles within 3/4 weeks of winner. I can`t see G4 having to wait until March. Bring it on boys
”
You said earlier that the rule does not apply.Could you please quote your sources for your statement.
Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“......same thing happened on FA1 and FA2 .....both runners-up signed to subsidiaries of winner`s record companies and both released singles within 3/4 weeks of winner. I can`t see G4 having to wait until March. Bring it on boys ”
“......same thing happened on FA1 and FA2 .....both runners-up signed to subsidiaries of winner`s record companies and both released singles within 3/4 weeks of winner. I can`t see G4 having to wait until March. Bring it on boys
”
ah but on all those programmes it was never stated that there would be no other acts given a contract, why are G4 different to Tabby or Rowetta they both said they had offers but were not allowed to say anything else, seems like loupys been very carefull about who he has told these stories to
Originally Posted by fannianni:
“You said earlier that the rule does not apply.Could you please quote your sources for your statement.”
“You said earlier that the rule does not apply.Could you please quote your sources for your statement.
”
i think you may be on pennys ignore list
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“i think you may be on pennys ignore list”
“i think you may be on pennys ignore list
”
Wish that had been the case for the last month.
Perhaps this thread should be pinned to the top of the board. It doesn't seem to be sinking in with the vast majority of posters.
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“ah but on all those programmes it was never stated that there would be no other acts given a contract, why are G4 different to Tabby or Rowetta they both said they had offers but were not allowed to say anything else, seems like loupys been very carefull about who he has told these stories to”
“ah but on all those programmes it was never stated that there would be no other acts given a contract, why are G4 different to Tabby or Rowetta they both said they had offers but were not allowed to say anything else, seems like loupys been very carefull about who he has told these stories to”
...It was actually stated all the way through FA2 by Richard Parks one of the judges that only the winner would get a recording contract. Alistair Griffin was signed by a subsidiary of Polydor and his single Bring it On/My Lover`s Prayer with Robin Gibb was released within 4 weeks of Alex Parks single.
Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“...It was actually stated all the way through FA2 by Richard Parks one of the judges that only the winner would get a recording contract. Alistair Griffin was signed by a subsidiary of Polydor and his single Bring it On/My Lover`s Prayer with Robin Gibb was released within 4 weeks of Alex Parks single.”
“...It was actually stated all the way through FA2 by Richard Parks one of the judges that only the winner would get a recording contract. Alistair Griffin was signed by a subsidiary of Polydor and his single Bring it On/My Lover`s Prayer with Robin Gibb was released within 4 weeks of Alex Parks single.”
And as none of the individuals or organisations involved in the FA contracts is involved in the X-Factor contracts, this is relevant in what way?
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“And as none of the individuals or organisations involved in the FA contracts is involved in the X-Factor contracts, this is relevant in what way?”
“And as none of the individuals or organisations involved in the FA contracts is involved in the X-Factor contracts, this is relevant in what way?
”
.......I thought that would be obvious - that you don`t believe a single word the judges say
Originally Posted by AABeatrix:
“Perhaps this thread should be pinned to the top of the board. It doesn't seem to be sinking in with the vast majority of posters.”
“Perhaps this thread should be pinned to the top of the board. It doesn't seem to be sinking in with the vast majority of posters.”
Just because it's been reported they have a contract doesn't mean it's signed and dusted.
If it is, then I daresay the contract will commence in March. I would guess that breach of the X-Factor contract would result in some kind of penalisation - which they'd want to avoid.
Originally Posted by mirtol:
“Just because it's been reported they have a contract doesn't mean it's signed and dusted.
If it is, then I daresay the contract will commence in March. I would guess that breach of the X-Factor contract would result in some kind of penalisation - which they'd want to avoid.”
“Just because it's been reported they have a contract doesn't mean it's signed and dusted.
If it is, then I daresay the contract will commence in March. I would guess that breach of the X-Factor contract would result in some kind of penalisation - which they'd want to avoid.”
I wasn't talking about G4's possible contract, more the "voting is not rigged" part of it not sinking in.
Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“...It was actually stated all the way through FA2 by Richard Parks one of the judges that only the winner would get a recording contract. Alistair Griffin was signed by a subsidiary of Polydor and his single Bring it On/My Lover`s Prayer with Robin Gibb was released within 4 weeks of Alex Parks single.”
“...It was actually stated all the way through FA2 by Richard Parks one of the judges that only the winner would get a recording contract. Alistair Griffin was signed by a subsidiary of Polydor and his single Bring it On/My Lover`s Prayer with Robin Gibb was released within 4 weeks of Alex Parks single.”
penny i will explain once more, simon owns syco who make and produce xfactor,.........simon is an exec at sony/ bmg.........yes he is involved with both..... but syco has nothing repeat nothing to do with the recording company....they are two seperate things......all acts are under a legal contract to xfactor there for contracted to syco......to release or record any record they would have to get permission from syco there for from simon, just because louie says they have been signed does not mean they will release a record within the next three months,... it is simons decision not louies not sonys it is simons, ...just because he is an exec at sony it does not mean G4 have an automatic ticket for a release....i cant see simon doing this unlesss he is going to make money but even though he has a vested interest in bmg/sony he does not own it any more, why should he take interest from his own act to support louies........alistair released his record with robin and guess what?, robin is a longstanding artist on the polyador label thats how the single was released, he didnt get a contract to release his own within 3-4 weeks did he?.
Originally Posted by mirtol:
“Just because it's been reported they have a contract doesn't mean it's signed and dusted.
If it is, then I daresay the contract will commence in March. I would guess that breach of the X-Factor contract would result in some kind of penalisation - which they'd want to avoid.”
“Just because it's been reported they have a contract doesn't mean it's signed and dusted.
If it is, then I daresay the contract will commence in March. I would guess that breach of the X-Factor contract would result in some kind of penalisation - which they'd want to avoid.”
....we seem to be running round in circles here........they are (or about to be ) signed to Sony Music, part of the Sony/BMG group who sponsor the X Factor and put up the £l million prize. The fact that G4 are signed to them also means the 3-month tie-in doesn`t apply and therefore they will be allowed to release a single shortly. The 3 month tie-in would only apply to other record companies so they are not allowed to cash in on any publicity the show generated.
Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“....we seem to be running round in circles here........they are (or about to be ) signed to Sony Music, part of the Sony/BMG group who sponsor the X Factor and put up the £l million prize. The fact that G4 are signed to them also means the 3-month tie-in doesn`t apply and therefore they will be allowed to release a single shortly. The 3 month tie-in would only apply to other record companies so they are not allowed to cash in on any publicity the show generated.”
“....we seem to be running round in circles here........they are (or about to be ) signed to Sony Music, part of the Sony/BMG group who sponsor the X Factor and put up the £l million prize. The fact that G4 are signed to them also means the 3-month tie-in doesn`t apply and therefore they will be allowed to release a single shortly. The 3 month tie-in would only apply to other record companies so they are not allowed to cash in on any publicity the show generated.”
just because they sponser the bloody thing doesnt mean they own it to do what they want with the bloody show
Originally Posted by AABeatrix:
“I wasn't talking about G4's possible contract, more the "voting is not rigged" part of it not sinking in.”
“I wasn't talking about G4's possible contract, more the "voting is not rigged" part of it not sinking in.”
nothing sinks in round here
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“penny i will explain once more, simon owns syco who make and produce xfactor,.........simon is an exec at sony/ bmg.........yes he is involved with both..... but syco has nothing repeat nothing to do with the recording company....they are two seperate things......all acts are under a legal contract to xfactor there for contracted to syco......to release or record any record they would have to get permission from syco there for from simon, just because louie says they have been signed does not mean they will release a record within the next three months,... it is simons decision not louies not sonys it is simons, ...just because he is an exec at sony it does not mean G4 have an automatic ticket for a release....i cant see simon doing this unlesss he is going to make money but even though he has a vested interest in bmg/sony he does not own it any more, why should he take interest from his own act to support louies........alistair released his record with robin and guess what?, robin is a longstanding artist on the polyador label thats how the single was released, he didnt get a contract to release his own within 3-4 weeks did he?.”
“penny i will explain once more, simon owns syco who make and produce xfactor,.........simon is an exec at sony/ bmg.........yes he is involved with both..... but syco has nothing repeat nothing to do with the recording company....they are two seperate things......all acts are under a legal contract to xfactor there for contracted to syco......to release or record any record they would have to get permission from syco there for from simon, just because louie says they have been signed does not mean they will release a record within the next three months,... it is simons decision not louies not sonys it is simons, ...just because he is an exec at sony it does not mean G4 have an automatic ticket for a release....i cant see simon doing this unlesss he is going to make money but even though he has a vested interest in bmg/sony he does not own it any more, why should he take interest from his own act to support louies........alistair released his record with robin and guess what?, robin is a longstanding artist on the polyador label thats how the single was released, he didnt get a contract to release his own within 3-4 weeks did he?.”
Alistair`s record contract was with Universal.tv. He released 2 singles and an album with them before being subsequently dropped.
Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“. The fact that G4 are signed to them also means the 3-month tie-in doesn`t apply .”
“. The fact that G4 are signed to them also means the 3-month tie-in doesn`t apply .”
PLEASE quote a source for this statement.
Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“Alistair`s record contract was with Universal.tv. He released 2 singles and an album with them before being subsequently dropped.”
“Alistair`s record contract was with Universal.tv. He released 2 singles and an album with them before being subsequently dropped.”
so what was the point of saying he had a release 3-4 weeks after alex, it was robins song on robins label
Originally Posted by fannianni:
“PLEASE quote a source for this statement.”
“PLEASE quote a source for this statement.
”
penny cant quote a source
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“penny cant quote a source”
“penny cant quote a source”
I know that,you know that but we are still being lectured.
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