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Waiting for Chryed to Get It On - Christian & Syed (Part 267)
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Romeo and Romeo
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by momentarything:
“I'm sure their leaving episode taken in isolation (like the wedding episode) is going to be great. Unfortunately, it's a bit hard to take it in isolation, as it's supposed to be an ending for their time on the show- which now includes yesterday's rubbish.

It's just sad, really, that literally a couple of minutes yesterday has wrecked so much for me. Was it really worth it, EE? Could you not think of another way to split up your couple with major cultural, age and personality differences and a huge complex history, if you had to?!”

BIB: All this! And to do this as their leaving s/l cuts deep. I'm really tired of disappointment.
momentarything
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by Jack Nasty:
“Great post, lovesy (and Alex, mt, Romeo and others (haven't had a proper catch up today, just been reading posts here and there when I've had a chance).

BIB: this is exactly how I feel. It's not just that the characters have been screwed over for the plot but the plot doesn't even make sense. I can't relate any of it to the Chryed I know and love or even understand what story they're trying to tell. And that's what makes it easy for me to dismiss it all. I've done that a lot over the past two years, going right back to Christian not caring about leaving Syed on his own on NYE 2010 (after a row we never saw) leading to Piper Kiss, surrogacy, BF, Syed going back to the sham with Amira after Christian left last year...a lot of this stuff made little or no sense to me, didn't feel right for the characters, so I took what little enjoyment I could out of it and dismissed the rest cos I wasn't ready to give up altogether. This latest stuff is no different.

They could have done a cheating sl that made sense, shown Chryed slowly drifting apart over several months or even weeks and Syed becoming restless and looking elsewhere. I would have been heartbroken but at least I could have believed it. I could even, at a push, have believed Syed meeting someone new, feeling a mutual attraction to them and it growing over time until he couldn't resist anymore. It would have been so hard to watch but these things happen. As it is, we've had nothing like that. Syed was perfectly happy with Christian and their life together until the money problems started and had barely known Danny more than a combined total of ten minutes before deciding to jump into bed (or down an alley, whatever ) with him and if one thing is clear it's that Syed definitely has no feelings for Danny. So yeah, either Syed is an arsehole or TPTB are arseholes. Guess which one I'm gonna go with :sleep:

Chryed aren't even being screwed over for a story, they're being screwed over for a 40 second will they/won't they leaving scene that won't even get the duff duff Weirdy though, that's precisely why I still want a happy ending for them, and why unless it's really really bady written (and I trust Pete not to let that be the case) I will believe it, cos it'll be a happy ending for the real Chryed I fell for back in 2009, and they deserve that and so do we”

GREAT post, JN, especially about it being a fitting ending for 09/10 Chryed rather than this story. I'm going to try to adopt this attitude. Tomorrow, I'll start tomorrow... :sleep:
PoppyMay
03-11-2012
Wow 7 eps left.........

Do you remember NYE kiss preview, when Miss DL was flipping out at stupid o'clock?

Or when we got the NYD 'catch up' accidentally?

NYD's euphoric grief? :'(

Or when the thread practically had net sex?

The awesome shock of SBM?

Mollie's newspapers? The epic fics? JP on 'Over The Rainbow'? Chryed Revealed?

Good times not tainted by STUPID CONTRIVED OOC RUBBISH.
Chryedguy
03-11-2012
I must respectfully disagree with Lyra.

If the producers and writers had any serious respect for their characters I would agree. But this is EE, and they have demonstrated again and again that their priority is generating controversy and angst in order to titillate their audience. THAT is their priority. Not good story telling or the integrity of a character's personality.

They believe that an interesting show is one that is wildly unpredictable, full of (some) controversy, titillating, and full of artificially generated emotional conflict.

We who DO care about the characters and story absolutely do NOT owe it to The Crayon Crew to try to come up with some rational justification for what they've written. They do not deserve that level of consideration or respect. And there is none.

They are playing games with little plastic LEGO people called Kristian and Syod. And it makes me quite angry and disappointed.

Christian and Syed's story stopped being told a month or more ago.
lovesy
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by Jack Nasty:
“Great post, lovesy (and Alex, mt, Romeo and others (haven't had a proper catch up today, just been reading posts here and there when I've had a chance).

BIB: this is exactly how I feel. It's not just that the characters have been screwed over for the plot but the plot doesn't even make sense. I can't relate any of it to the Chryed I know and love or even understand what story they're trying to tell. And that's what makes it easy for me to dismiss it all. I've done that a lot over the past two years, going right back to Christian not caring about leaving Syed on his own on NYE 2010 (after a row we never saw) leading to Piper Kiss, surrogacy, BF, Syed going back to the sham with Amira after Christian left last year...a lot of this stuff made little or no sense to me, didn't feel right for the characters, so I took what little enjoyment I could out of it and dismissed the rest cos I wasn't ready to give up altogether. This latest stuff is no different.

They could have done a cheating sl that made sense, shown Chryed slowly drifting apart over several months or even weeks and Syed becoming restless and looking elsewhere. I would have been heartbroken but at least I could have believed it. I could even, at a push, have believed Syed meeting someone new, feeling a mutual attraction to them and it growing over time until he couldn't resist anymore. It would have been so hard to watch but these things happen. As it is, we've had nothing like that. Syed was perfectly happy with Christian and their life together until the money problems started and had barely known Danny more than a combined total of ten minutes before deciding to jump into bed (or down an alley, whatever ) with him and if one thing is clear it's that Syed definitely has no feelings for Danny. So yeah, either Syed is an arsehole or TPTB are arseholes. Guess which one I'm gonna go with :sleep:

Chryed aren't even being screwed over for a story, they're being screwed over for a 40 second will they/won't they leaving scene that won't even get the duff duff Weirdy though, that's precisely why I still want a happy ending for them, and why unless it's really really bady written (and I trust Pete not to let that be the case) I will believe it, cos it'll be a happy ending for the real Chryed I fell for back in 2009, and they deserve that and so do we”

All this JN, great post
KatrinaK
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“Wow 7 eps left.........

Do you remember NYE kiss preview, when Miss DL was flipping out at stupid o'clock?

Or when we got the NYD 'catch up' accidentally?

NYD's euphoric grief? :'(

Or when the thread practically had net sex?

The awesome shock of SBM?

Mollie's newspapers? The epic fics? JP on 'Over The Rainbow'? Chryed Revealed?

Good times not tainted by STUPID CONTRIVED OOC RUBBISH.”

OMG So many memories.

It's crazy to think how far this thread goes back and all the crazy and fun things we used to talk about.

Syod and Cihisten will never get old either.
asyousay
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“Wow 7 eps left.........

Do you remember NYE kiss preview, when Miss DL was flipping out at stupid o'clock?

Or when we got the NYD 'catch up' accidentally?

NYD's euphoric grief? :'(

Or when the thread practically had net sex?

The awesome shock of SBM?

Mollie's newspapers? The epic fics? JP on 'Over The Rainbow'? Chryed Revealed?

Good times not tainted by STUPID CONTRIVED OOC RUBBISH.”


NYD Is when i first posted on here if i remember rightly
KatrinaK
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by Chryedguy:
“Christian and Syed's story stopped being told a month or more ago.”

I thought it was stopped being told two years ago, from the moment BK stepped into Elstree in fact. :sleep:

However yes, the last month has taken the crap to new heights.
momentarything
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by asyousay:
“NYD Is when i first posted on here if i remember rightly ”

Ha, this has just made me realise I fell in love with Chryed outside a police station and they were pretty much ruined for me outside a police station.

Not the sort of paralleling I enjoy. :sleep:
Chryedguy
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“Wow 7 eps left.........

Do you remember NYE kiss preview, when Miss DL was flipping out at stupid o'clock?

Or when we got the NYD 'catch up' accidentally?

NYD's euphoric grief? :'(

Or when the thread practically had net sex?

The awesome shock of SBM?

Mollie's newspapers? The epic fics? JP on 'Over The Rainbow'? Chryed Revealed?

Good times not tainted by STUPID CONTRIVED OOC RUBBISH.”

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PoppyMay
03-11-2012
Ooooooh and the OCRAs. The extensive debates? ATO name christening? The iffy spoilers ['heart to heart' and 'Syed and Amira give into passion' (sometimes we wondered if the reviewers actually watch the show)]??? The awfulness of salmon shirt/gilet/clown shirt/gold trousers? Lambkin????

Oh it's all coming to an end
LovelyLaura
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by asyousay:
“NYD Is when i first posted on here if i remember rightly ”

It was hallway seduction scene for me....I was so disgusted with that scene that I had to come on here and rant about it with people I knew would totally understand my sudden heterophobia!
asyousay
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by momentarything:
“Ha, this has just made me realise I fell in love with Chryed outside a police station and they were pretty much ruined for me outside a police station.

Not the sort of paralleling I enjoy. :sleep:”

Awww

I was always pleased i could watch all the clips on youtube without waiting weeks for the story to unfold.

" I think you are superman" will always live on for me as its when i first loved them as a couple. Such a amazing touching scene

I demand more stuff like this before they leave!!
momentarything
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“Ooooooh and the OCRAs. The extensive debates? ATO name christening? The iffy spoilers ['heart to heart' and 'Syed and Amira give into passion' (sometimes we wondered if the reviewers actually watch the show)]??? The awfulness of salmon shirt/gilet/clown shirt/gold trousers? Lambkin????

Oh it's all coming to an end ”

BiB: Oh, God I'd repressed that.

Reminded me of the spoilers claiming Syed was green with jealousy watching Christian with his (as it turns out, very weedy) client, and he was actually just horny. That was my favourite spoilie. :sleep:
PoppyMay
03-11-2012
Elltridge day? The 'TM' interview ('he's hot and I get to kiss him')? Bed scene ep? Johnny's Attitude interview (when women surreptitiously purchased magazines in various supermarkets across the UK)? Drunken posters?
asyousay
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“Elltridge day? The 'TM' interview ('he's hot and I get to kiss him')? Bed scene ep? Johnny's Attitude interview (when women surreptitiously purchased magazines in various supermarkets across the UK)? Drunken posters?”

I still remember the cringe of that and me getting my mum to buy it in waitrose and when the woman could not scan it and started to wave it around , i just walked out leaving my mum there to deal
Jack Nasty
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“Wow 7 eps left.........

Do you remember NYE kiss preview, when Miss DL was flipping out at stupid o'clock?

Or when we got the NYD 'catch up' accidentally?

NYD's euphoric grief? :'(

Or when the thread practically had net sex?

The awesome shock of SBM?

Mollie's newspapers? The epic fics? JP on 'Over The Rainbow'? Chryed Revealed?

Good times not tainted by STUPID CONTRIVED OOC RUBBISH.”

All this. I haven't been through everything we have the past three years to let TPTB (who aren't even TPTB that created Chryed) ruin it all for me with their incompetence :sleep:
Romeo and Romeo
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by Chryedguy:
“I must respectfully disagree with Lyra.

If the producers and writers had any serious respect for their characters I would agree. But this is EE, and they have demonstrated again and again that their priority is generating controversy and angst in order to titillate their audience. THAT is their priority. Not good story telling or the integrity of a character's personality.

They believe that an interesting show is one that is wildly unpredictable, full of (some) controversy, titillating, and full of artificially generated emotional conflict.

We who DO care about the characters and story absolutely do NOT owe it to The Crayon Crew to try to come up with some rational justification for what they've written. They do not deserve that level of consideration or respect. And there is none.

They are playing games with little plastic LEGO people called Kristian and Syod. And it makes me quite angry and disappointed.

Christian and Syed's story stopped being told a month or more ago.”

BIB: Totally this. We are being told Kristian or more like Christ!ian and Syod love story now with the rate that tptb are making christian a saint and syed bad
KatrinaK
03-11-2012
LOL all these thread memories are making me laugh.

I'm pissed off at alot of things but one thing I don't regret is my fandom experience in this thread.

It's been a barrel of laughs! Though angsty and ranty too. :sleep: but we've had some great times.

Also Christian taking "matters into his own hands" in the PO spoilers every week.
KatrinaK
03-11-2012
I also remember the reaction to clown shirt.

We had that spoiler pics of the rather angsty pic of Syed touching Christian's hands and we pretty much had this reaction....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyz21LVPYaQ
PoppyMay
03-11-2012
Ah I could write an essay on the hair commentary. To sum up; short hair = unhappy Syed, angsty Chryed; long hair = lusty thread.
NowhereToHide
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by Romeo and Romeo:
“BIB: And then in time eventually when Syed has figured out who is then he could come back and Christian and Syed could then leave together both the wiser of understanding their relationship and stronger.”

Just doing a catch up to depress myself further

BIB: I feel very strongly that it is tptb who do not know who Syed is...

I dunno, I have been trying to think how I can put a positive spin on this - and I can barely be arsed. You could argue that Syed felt that he was ready to marry Christian on his wedding day after the chat. Maybe he started to tell Christian about the ONS but as Christian was so upset he sugar coated it (complete misunderstanding of Christian here, as he doesn't care about sexual encounters that are phyisical). He felt he got his desired point across - ie he was upset that he could lust after another man - and that was enough for Syed, and was happy that Christian accepted him still (even though he lied, like that wouldn't bother syed?). After the chat he felt he did love Christian and got married, happily (this doesn't bother Syed?). After Christian found out, he felt desperately disgusted with himself, felt he wasn't worthy of Christian's love. It has so many holes - this would have bothered old Syed, terribly. I dunno.

I feel we have just lost the credibility of this s/l for a twist. One kiss/ONS has 2 impacts. But it'd boring because we are now back to before the wedding. Repetitve.

I fessed up and told the other half why I was in a bad mood this morning After scoffing, he confessed that he encountered similar in wrestling (like I should be embarrassed - wrestling! we all have our things, and my bro is the same - a fan of wrestling). Apparently, when a wrestler did not want to sign a new contract or wanted to go to WCW (or whatever it is), they would lose every match for the remainder of their contract. It was called 'burying'. Basically, Syed has been 'buried'.

On a new note, could we try and take this out of context and make it understandable? Can we say this is not a s/l now, but for after BF with all the Amira stuff coming later?? Do I make sense?? Like, could we get something out of it if we took it from where it is in the timeline of Chryed and place it elsewhere??? Clutching at straws....
asyousay
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“I also remember the reaction to clown shirt.

We had that spoiler pics of the rather angsty pic of Syed touching Christian's hands and we pretty much had this reaction....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyz21LVPYaQ”

heheheh


See people BK cant ruin our fond memorys
PoppyMay
03-11-2012
Oh and 'Shane' hahahahaaaaaa
momentarything
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“
Also Christian taking "matters into his own hands" in the PO spoilers every week. ”

LMAO!

Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“I also remember the reaction to clown shirt.

We had that spoiler pics of the rather angsty pic of Syed touching Christian's hands and we pretty much had this reaction....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyz21LVPYaQ”

Yeah the thread reaction was pretty much 'aww they look so sa.... wtf is that shirt?!' And then someone Photoshopped Syed into a bin bag

And not forgetting the hatred of the gilet. :sleep:
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