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Old 31-10-2012, 15:38
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I'm geting conflicting info on this. Looking for a cheap alternative to the iPad and iPad Mini, I came across something called the CnM Touchpad (7in, 9in and 9.7in) and given that most of what i shall do, almost all, in fact, is just to surf the web and watch TV, I googled around to see whether it would work as this tablet comes with Android 4. Some sites said it wouldn't, Argos Q&A said it can't play iPlayer, some say it can. I rang CnM and the chap there said 'it should be able to play iPlayer'. Trouble is I would really prefer a 'will work' to a 'should work' when I'm shelling out more than £5 on anything like that. Any advice here? Has anyone got or at least come across one of these CnM Touchpads. If it can play iPlayer and one or two other TV stations like TVCatchup it seems like a good alternative. If . . .
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Old 31-10-2012, 16:06
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Why not use the iPlayer app?
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Old 31-10-2012, 16:52
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...because the iPlayer app needs Flash. Thought you might have known that.
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Old 31-10-2012, 16:55
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To make a murky topic even murkier, I've just spoken to a guy in PC World (and what do they know) who swore blind Flash and iPlayer work with Android UP TO 4.0 and stop working from 4.1 on. Then I spoke to a guy I know in Phones4U who said, not Flash etc. doesn't work from Androud 4.0 on. So how the hell does one get a def answer? And given that most people will be using their Android tablet to watch TV, whether on iPlayer, ITV Player or TVCatchup or want to use Netflix, what is Google doing about it?
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Old 31-10-2012, 17:13
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I can't answer your question but I've just got a Momo8 IPS that is a similar price to the CnM Touchpad. It's got a much better spec and can run flash with no problem.
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Old 31-10-2012, 18:08
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I can't answer your question but I've just got a Momo8 IPS that is a similar price to the CnM Touchpad. It's got a much better spec and can run flash with no problem.
Is it running Android 4.0? If so, that would clear up some of the confusion. Have you tried it with BBC iPlayer?
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Old 31-10-2012, 18:22
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This may help, or it might not

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcintern...phones_ta.html
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Old 31-10-2012, 18:27
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...because the iPlayer app needs Flash. Thought you might have known that.
Does it? Pretty sure I used the iPlayer app on my Jelly Bean 4.1 Nexus 7. I know for a fact it didn't have flash.

Strange, but take your word for it, I ditched the Nexus 7 so don't have one to check it with now.
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Old 31-10-2012, 18:30
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The latest iPlayer app for Android doesn't use Flash. It's avaible here...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...player.android

However Flash is supported on devices up to and including 4.0. It's only 4.1 Jelly Bean that doesn't officially support it.

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Old 31-10-2012, 18:41
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The CnM Touchpad 7 comes with iplayer installed.
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Old 31-10-2012, 20:16
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The latest iPlayer app for Android doesn't use Flash. It's avaible here...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...player.android

However Flash is supported on devices up to and including 4.0. It's only 4.1 Jelly Bean that doesn't officially support it.

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Thanks for clearing that up, thought I was going mad.
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:22
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A thank you to you guys for your help here?

I was trying to watch a few US o A TV news sites yesterday and kept getting “flash not supported on this device” with my device being a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 running 4.0.4 and following your links all is well now.

Is it about time DS put a “thanks” button on theses forums.

BTW Picture quality on Fox News stream from the US is as good as or if not better than Sky News on Freeview.

Thought I would just add that the BBC iPlayer does work without flash on the Tab 2. 4.0.4 but having flash is a big plus when viewing anything that is not the BBC.

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Old 01-11-2012, 11:35
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...because the iPlayer app needs Flash. Thought you might have known that.
The iPlayer app doesn't need Flash. Thought you might have known that.

However if you want to install Flash you can side-load it and use a different browser such as Firefox to view flash content.
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Old 01-11-2012, 17:06
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The quality of the video is stream is quite bad! It reminds me of the dial-up Realplayer streams from over a decade ago. Apparently the BBC's iOS player is light years ahead. I've no idea what they're playing at.
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Old 01-11-2012, 17:30
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Flash is not going anywhere its still the primary video stream format.

Its only the embedded web site flash player that's been withdrawn. The replacement, Adobe Air, is still flash based as far as I am aware.

They really are screwing this up though by withdrawing support before the web is ready.

HTML5 is supposed to have <Video> tags to play streaming video but there is no requirement to have a video player built into the browser which is just dumb. The HTML5 default video stream could end up being Flash anyway.
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Old 01-11-2012, 17:42
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The iPlayer app doesn't need Flash. Thought you might have known that.

However if you want to install Flash you can side-load it and use a different browser such as Firefox to view flash content.
The new Iplayer app is still Flash based, It uses Adobe Air which is a non embedded version of flash player.
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Old 01-11-2012, 17:43
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The new Iplayer app is still Flash based, It uses Adobe Air which is a non embedded version of flash player.
I didn't say it wasn't flash based, I said it didn't need flash installed which it doesn't.
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Old 01-11-2012, 17:56
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I didn't say it wasn't flash based, I said it didn't need flash installed which it doesn't.
I downloaded Iplayer recently, I'm pretty sure I had to install Adobe air as well to make it work, although I may be thinking of another app.
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Old 01-11-2012, 18:17
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I downloaded Iplayer recently, I'm pretty sure I had to install Adobe air as well to make it work, although I may be thinking of another app.
I don't have Adobe Air installed on my Nexus 7 and iplayer works fine.

Also Adobe Air isn't at question here, it is still available in the play store unlike Flash.
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Old 01-11-2012, 20:29
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If the tablet is running Android 4.0.4 [ICS] it will run flash. If it is running 4.1.1 [Jelly Bean] flash is not installed but can be side loaded and will work with no problem. The iPlayer App no longer relies on flash.
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Old 01-11-2012, 23:41
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i have a tablet with android 4.04 that came pre-installed with the earlier version of adobe flash...and i just downloaded the updated flash player 11.1 but no flash is being supported even on the firefox browser .. i downloaded a apk on my desktop transfer it tom tablet open andf installed.. the support link comes up but no videos are playing or games that need flash support.. any suggestions? and does adobe air help with this?
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Old 02-11-2012, 14:38
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To the OP if all you really want to do is browse the Web and stream video the blackberry playbook does it very well. Best Web browser on a mobile device and full flash support that's not going to be dropped. Stream YouTube iplayer tv catchup and 4od etc right off the browser.

You can pick up a 64gb model from Currys or pc world for £129. Android and flash simply have a buggy and unstable relationship since the last few updates before it got pulled were horrible. No such issues on the playbook though. Smooth browsing on the full Web and flash based streaming working like a charm.
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Old 03-11-2012, 16:57
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If you're looking for a cheap alternative to the iPad, you'd be absolutely crazy to shell out for anything other than a Nexus 7 or 10 imo, and yes iPlayer and Flash work fine.
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Old 05-11-2012, 16:42
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I downloaded Iplayer recently, I'm pretty sure I had to install Adobe air as well to make it work, although I may be thinking of another app.
I downloaded the iPlayer app on to my Nexus7 last week and had to also download a BBC media player app before it would work properly.
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Old 05-11-2012, 18:43
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The iPlayer app doesn't need Flash. Thought you might have known that.

However if you want to install Flash you can side-load it and use a different browser such as Firefox to view flash content.
Actually, it did need Flash until Adobe stopped for a while and the Beeb came up with alternative technology called Medi to make iPlayer work.

Well, I've installed 4.0 on both phones and it's a treat, and I'm getting used to it fast.
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