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Old 01-12-2012, 01:16
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She doesn't learn though - she still mouths off generally.
I'd disagree. We aren't seeing her mouthing off in the task. Compare this week's episode to the cookbook task - she's nothing like as mouthy as she was.
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Old 02-12-2012, 04:06
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Everytime I see her I think of Sid from Ice Age.

Sid

OMG!! LOL!! It looks just like her!!

(No doubt we'll be told off and reminded that Miss Sneery-Face is only 16 or 17 or wotever ... but that is just a brilliant likeness. )
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Old 02-12-2012, 04:13
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<ahem> Anyway, onto a more serious note ... yes, Little Miss Sneery did well in the last task, but I just can't take to overly-confident people no matter what their age. I think Lord Shoog might agree with me too ...
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:31
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I don't think you mean no. That's not N Irish for No.
Maybe you mean now.
No. I mean 'no.' Google Ian Paisley saying 'No', (he said it a lot.) Sounds like 'noy.'

To an NI person it may sound exactly like 'no' of course, because that's how they pronounce the word.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:49
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A Northern Irish No sound and a noy sound are distinctly different from each other. You can hear his No here and it is nothing like noy:

http://www.culturenorthernireland.or...sley_Part1.MP3

I can't pinpoint the times on the recording as there is no time indicator but if you go to about a half to three quarters of an inch in on the slider, he says No a couple of times - one is where there is talk of his place in life at this point in his life and another is after he says that he is a great-grandfather...no longer make a useful contribution.

Then another instance is about an inch from the end when he says no and now after where he says some of my best friends...
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Old 02-12-2012, 15:39
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His accent is quite restrained there. Check out this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSa4HJdQaHU
- at 0-40 he says 'doyn' instead of 'down' - no admittedly it's not exactly like 'doyn,' as 'noy' is not exactly how NI people say 'no'. Neither is 'poinds' exactly the same way maria says 'pounds' But it explains how the Northern Irish accent tends to differentiate from 'received pronunciation' - not that I'm saying that is 'correct.'
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Old 02-12-2012, 15:53
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Paisley is from Ballymena,which is a totally different accent from someone from Belfast, even if they do seem to be putting on 'Cheeryvelley' airs & graces.
Ballymena, like all North Antrim or East Down rural accents are as close to Scottish than Belfast.
Try listening to someone from Portavogie, Carrowdore or Ballyhalbert, and listen to what comes out of their mouths. Rabbie Burns would have had no trouble understanding them.
Even some of the street signs down in the villages on the Ards peninsula - or the 'low country' as its known locally - are in Scots as well as English
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Old 11-12-2012, 00:13
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At the end of the day, we all know who we're talking about whe If there was someone Welsh we wouldn't say the South Welsh one or the North Welsh one.
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Hardly the same ... We're not talking about an area within a specific country (like you're north/south Wales crap), we're talking about a separate country all together.
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Old 11-12-2012, 00:26
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Paisley is from Ballymena,which is a totally different accent from someone from Belfast, even if they do seem to be putting on 'Cheeryvelley' airs & graces.
Ballymena, like all North Antrim or East Down rural accents are as close to Scottish than Belfast.
Try listening to someone from Portavogie, Carrowdore or Ballyhalbert, and listen to what comes out of their mouths. Rabbie Burns would have had no trouble understanding them.
Even some of the street signs down in the villages on the Ards peninsula - or the 'low country' as its known locally - are in Scots as well as English
Aye, LFC manager from Carnlough often sounds Scottish at times.

Maria goes to Victoria College.

She does sound like she has a strong, posh Belfast accent (South Belfast area - Malone/Ravenhill....possibly even up towards Castlereagh - near me - or moneyreagh etc) I have a posh belfast accent, but not as strong as hers.

Anyway, I find her to be a bit arrogant and up herself, but I can't help but like her. She stands up for herself, tried to take criticism on board, recogises her weaknesses and tries to work on them...though I do think she is maybe a bit too confident in her abilities at times, and that could be seen as a weakness ...

Overall, I think she will go far, she's got her head screwed on most of the time and seems to attempt to adapt to the situation as needed.
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Old 11-12-2012, 00:47
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Seeing as this thread popped up again, I have to say Maria did the most unmistakable 'Noy' in the last episode.
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Old 11-12-2012, 23:33
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'noy' is the Norn Irish way of pronouncing 'now', as in 'hoy noy broyn coy'. its almost like coy-e, the sound. Same way as 'shower' goes to 'sharr' and mirror goes to 'murr'.
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Old 11-12-2012, 23:37
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Well I said that earlier in the thread and I was told I was wrong, so...
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Old 16-12-2012, 17:36
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I'm laughing at "hoy noy broyn coy " . I went to Uni in Belfast & that brought back memories. Their BBC NI news readers are known for that "hoy-noy" way of trying to sound posh & not too Belfast ,when in reality it was hilariously SO Belfasty & laughably pretentious. Very Malone Rd.....or as us students called it "Mall One Road" due to it's 'poshness' & being the area associated wealthy families.
I like Maria,she is savvy enough for a teen, all things considered & is easy on the eye when not pulling disgusted faces. She will go far & seems not one to sit on her butt dependent solely on her family money. Team Maria all the way here !
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Old 22-12-2012, 15:33
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Well I said that earlier in the thread and I was told I was wrong, so...
Is that a reference to our earlier exchange? What you said then was that noy was the Northern Irish way of pronouncing no. I pointed out that it wasn't and speculated that maybe you meant now.

You denied this, insisting that it was no even though now and no are very different sounds in Northern Ireland (as they are in England) and it is a common enough observation that now is pronounced in some Northern Irish accents as a
noy sound.
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Old 22-12-2012, 19:50
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Glad she didn't win - a right know all
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Old 23-12-2012, 08:27
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I'm laughing at "hoy noy broyn coy " . I went to Uni in Belfast & that brought back memories. Their BBC NI news readers are known for that "hoy-noy" way of trying to sound posh & not too Belfast ,when in reality it was hilariously SO Belfasty & laughably pretentious. Very Malone Rd.....or as us students called it "Mall One Road" due to it's 'poshness' & being the area associated wealthy families.
I like Maria,she is savvy enough for a teen, all things considered & is easy on the eye when not pulling disgusted faces. She will go far & seems not one to sit on her butt dependent solely on her family money. Team Maria all the way here !
Actually the "pretentious" part of Belfast is Cherryvalley over near Stormont.

Malone Road is posh / old money..... Cherryvelley (sic) is for the arrivistes!
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