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She doesn't learn though - she still mouths off generally.
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OMG!! LOL!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It looks just like her!! ![]() (No doubt we'll be told off and reminded that Miss Sneery-Face is only 16 or 17 or wotever ... but that is just a brilliant likeness. )
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<ahem> Anyway, onto a more serious note ... yes, Little Miss Sneery did well in the last task, but I just can't take to overly-confident people no matter what their age. I think Lord Shoog might agree with me too ...
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I don't think you mean no. That's not N Irish for No.
Maybe you mean now. To an NI person it may sound exactly like 'no' of course, because that's how they pronounce the word. |
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A Northern Irish No sound and a noy sound are distinctly different from each other. You can hear his No here and it is nothing like noy:
http://www.culturenorthernireland.or...sley_Part1.MP3 I can't pinpoint the times on the recording as there is no time indicator but if you go to about a half to three quarters of an inch in on the slider, he says No a couple of times - one is where there is talk of his place in life at this point in his life and another is after he says that he is a great-grandfather...no longer make a useful contribution. Then another instance is about an inch from the end when he says no and now after where he says some of my best friends... |
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His accent is quite restrained there. Check out this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSa4HJdQaHU - at 0-40 he says 'doyn' instead of 'down' - no admittedly it's not exactly like 'doyn,' as 'noy' is not exactly how NI people say 'no'. Neither is 'poinds' exactly the same way maria says 'pounds' But it explains how the Northern Irish accent tends to differentiate from 'received pronunciation' - not that I'm saying that is 'correct.' |
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Paisley is from Ballymena,which is a totally different accent from someone from Belfast, even if they do seem to be putting on 'Cheeryvelley' airs & graces.
Ballymena, like all North Antrim or East Down rural accents are as close to Scottish than Belfast. Try listening to someone from Portavogie, Carrowdore or Ballyhalbert, and listen to what comes out of their mouths. Rabbie Burns would have had no trouble understanding them. Even some of the street signs down in the villages on the Ards peninsula - or the 'low country' as its known locally - are in Scots as well as English |
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At the end of the day, we all know who we're talking about whe If there was someone Welsh we wouldn't say the South Welsh one or the North Welsh one.
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Paisley is from Ballymena,which is a totally different accent from someone from Belfast, even if they do seem to be putting on 'Cheeryvelley' airs & graces.
Ballymena, like all North Antrim or East Down rural accents are as close to Scottish than Belfast. Try listening to someone from Portavogie, Carrowdore or Ballyhalbert, and listen to what comes out of their mouths. Rabbie Burns would have had no trouble understanding them. Even some of the street signs down in the villages on the Ards peninsula - or the 'low country' as its known locally - are in Scots as well as English Maria goes to Victoria College. She does sound like she has a strong, posh Belfast accent (South Belfast area - Malone/Ravenhill....possibly even up towards Castlereagh - near me - or moneyreagh etc) I have a posh belfast accent, but not as strong as hers. Anyway, I find her to be a bit arrogant and up herself, but I can't help but like her. She stands up for herself, tried to take criticism on board, recogises her weaknesses and tries to work on them...though I do think she is maybe a bit too confident in her abilities at times, and that could be seen as a weakness ... Overall, I think she will go far, she's got her head screwed on most of the time and seems to attempt to adapt to the situation as needed. |
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Seeing as this thread popped up again, I have to say Maria did the most unmistakable 'Noy' in the last episode.
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'noy' is the Norn Irish way of pronouncing 'now', as in 'hoy noy broyn coy'. its almost like coy-e, the sound. Same way as 'shower' goes to 'sharr' and mirror goes to 'murr'.
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Well I said that earlier in the thread and I was told I was wrong, so...
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I'm laughing at "hoy noy broyn coy "
. I went to Uni in Belfast & that brought back memories. Their BBC NI news readers are known for that "hoy-noy" way of trying to sound posh & not too Belfast ,when in reality it was hilariously SO Belfasty & laughably pretentious. Very Malone Rd.....or as us students called it "Mall One Road" due to it's 'poshness' & being the area associated wealthy families.I like Maria,she is savvy enough for a teen, all things considered & is easy on the eye when not pulling disgusted faces. She will go far & seems not one to sit on her butt dependent solely on her family money. Team Maria all the way here !
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Well I said that earlier in the thread and I was told I was wrong, so...
You denied this, insisting that it was no even though now and no are very different sounds in Northern Ireland (as they are in England) and it is a common enough observation that now is pronounced in some Northern Irish accents as a noy sound. |
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Glad she didn't win - a right know all
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I'm laughing at "hoy noy broyn coy "
. I went to Uni in Belfast & that brought back memories. Their BBC NI news readers are known for that "hoy-noy" way of trying to sound posh & not too Belfast ,when in reality it was hilariously SO Belfasty & laughably pretentious. Very Malone Rd.....or as us students called it "Mall One Road" due to it's 'poshness' & being the area associated wealthy families.I like Maria,she is savvy enough for a teen, all things considered & is easy on the eye when not pulling disgusted faces. She will go far & seems not one to sit on her butt dependent solely on her family money. Team Maria all the way here ! ![]() Malone Road is posh / old money..... Cherryvelley (sic) is for the arrivistes! |
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