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Old 02-11-2012, 21:24
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His thought processes seemed to be entirely about rearranging the stock, folding it, refolding it and then moving it again. Anything to avoid selling. In his defence, he was probably either very shy, very nervous or both. He didn't show any leadership quality either, despite being made sub-team leader. Although the Patrick's decisions were catastrophic he had also driven the clothes selection process almost single handed so he did contribute positively. Unlike Maximilian.

And of course let's not forget that on Planet Sugar being a thinker is the worst sin there is, apart from having a qualification in thinking. So his card was marked from the start!
As you say, as a philospopher, Max probably even has a piece of paper to say what a great thinker he is and how he is an expert on other thinker's thoughts. He's doomed.

Max also committed the other mistake of standing back and letting Patrick lead as PM on a task that fitted his own claimed interests even better than they did Patrick's. He demonstrated he wasn't prepared to lead, then showed he wasn't prepared to do anything else, and he didn't even add ideas to Patrick's
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Old 02-11-2012, 21:29
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Patrick was lucky, but Max should have gone. Came across as arrogant and to sell only £14, even on the market stall was always going to count against him. Patrick is on the brink at the moment.

After one episode:

Contenders

Maria (Did well and came up with legitimate points, would like to see her lead)
Andrew (Sold well at the car boot sale - solid start)
Steven (Outsold all the other boys 2:1 I think and made points to Patrick without coming across as a dick, unlike David)
Sean (Articulate and well-mannered, sold well)

Outsiders

David (Needs to stop being critical of the PM's every move and the sexist comments won't help, but did well otherwise)
Amy (Scariest candidate, but did well to sell to the guy with the girlfriend)
Ashleigh (Did alright, was good at the prudent spending, but spent selling day ready to scapegoat the supermarket team, room for improvement)

Unlikely Candidates

Patrick (Needs a few weeks under the radar, didn't do very well, lucky to survive)
Lucy (Not a good seller, ignored PM's advice, was defensive, lucky she was on the winning team)

Unknowns

Alice (Didn't do much, most wouldn't have noticed her)
Navdeep (More negative than positive, but mainly toneless, barely noticed her)

Seems as though the best performers in each team (Maria and Steven) switch teams next week, so it will be interesting.
The adult equivalents of Amy tend to do better than that - if she has a good idea too she might make the last rounds. He's noticed Ashleigh in programme one and made some very favourable comments (for him) -the few people he's noted that early for getting the igures right also tend to do well?
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Old 02-11-2012, 22:35
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If the edit is anything to go by L A made the right decision. Patrick at least made some decisions, was clearly proactive and very creative. Max is intelligent apparently though this wasn't particularly apparent and the fear in his eyes when he might have to talk to the public was too off putting.
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Old 03-11-2012, 20:51
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Max reminds me of a young Boris Johnson.
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Old 03-11-2012, 21:48
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I wouldve liked to have seen a bit more of Max, looks like we had 3 of the main characters up in the first episode which is a shame.
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Old 08-11-2012, 12:54
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Max reminds me of a young Boris Johnson.
without any personality
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Old 08-11-2012, 13:07
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The adult equivalents of Amy tend to do better than that - if she has a good idea too she might make the last rounds. He's noticed Ashleigh in programme one and made some very favourable comments (for him) -the few people he's noted that early for getting the igures right also tend to do well?
Haha, you'd think I'd written a piece slagging them both off!

I do think they both have potential and I do like Amy based on her first episode. However, I thought that she did make mistakes apart from that (the washer-drier fiasco for example) and she can do better. Would not surprise me at all to see her reach the latter stages.

As for Ashleigh, Yes she did well on the figures, but I thought she came across as being a bit arrogant and on Day 2, she was clearly ready to scapegoat the sub-team at a moment's notice. But perhaps, I'm being overly-harsh.

I wasn't particularly criticising either of them, but just saying they had potential and it was my intention for Outsiders to be a good thing rather than a bad one.
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Old 08-11-2012, 15:30
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Max seemed like a very intelligent guy, someone you would definitely want in your pub quiz team but he was never going to win this competition. To be Lord Sugars apprentice you need to be clever as well as be able to work and communicate with people - a key skill Max was lacking. A lot of the time when he was talking to someone he would mumble and look to the floor - he may be a shy lad and that's fine but this makes him a weak candidate for the apprentice in my opinion.

Also I cant remember his name...Patrick?? What was he thinking creating a swimsuit dress thing??
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Old 08-11-2012, 19:42
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Sugar was correct: he sacked Max not because he was the most culpable in losing the task but because - of those who were the most culpable - he had the least potential...in terms of what he's ultimately looking for...
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