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what age are these producers?
isledance
03-11-2012
Everyone seems to be laying the blame at the producers door(including myself) If they are not as young as they appear to be then they must be deluded about their audience either way it is very apparent that they know absolutely nothing about dance and what they should be doing to keep their loyal audience. I am sure that there are those who will try to justify the producers style and state that viewing figures are actually increasing (due mainly to the lack lustre X Factor).... However since everyone says that this week is theme and gimmick free I am going to settle down and watch tonights show (the one where Kimberley is flying)!!!!! I rest my case
TerryM22
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by isledance:
“Everyone seems to be laying the blame at the producers door(including myself) If they are not as young as they appear to be then they must be deluded about their audience either way it is very apparent that they know absolutely nothing about dance and what they should be doing to keep their loyal audience. I am sure that there are those who will try to justify the producers style and state that viewing figures are actually increasing (due mainly to the lack lustre X Factor).... However since everyone says that this week is theme and gimmick free I am going to settle down and watch tonights show (the one where Kimberley is flying)!!!!! I rest my case”

There is nothing wrong with Kimberley flying like Widdy, I predict a standing ovation just like Widdy got.
Doghouse Riley
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by isledance:
“Everyone seems to be laying the blame at the producers door(including myself) If they are not as young as they appear to be then they must be deluded about their audience either way it is very apparent that they know absolutely nothing about dance and what they should be doing to keep their loyal audience. I am sure that there are those who will try to justify the producers style and state that viewing figures are actually increasing (due mainly to the lack lustre X Factor).... However since everyone says that this week is theme and gimmick free I am going to settle down and watch tonights show (the one where Kimberley is flying)!!!!! I rest my case”

I've know idea what age or experience they have, but I would say they know about "ratings."
The "suits upstairs" will be constantly reminding them of their importance above all else.
isledance
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“There is nothing wrong with Kimberley flying like Widdy, I predict a standing ovation just like Widdy got.”

Cant lift but ok to fly! Rules makes acomplete mockery of the hardworking ballroom dancers everywhere
isledance
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“I've know idea what age or experience they have, but I would say they know about "ratings."
The "suits upstairs" will be constantly reminding them of their importance above all else.”

sad but true ! (probably the same suits that watched the Jim`ll fix it ratings)!!!!!! They often take their eye off the ball
WLB
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by isledance:
“sad but true ! (probably the same suits that watched the Jim`ll fix it ratings)!!!!!! They often take their eye off the ball”

The thing is SCD is a saturday night, celebrity, ENTERTAINMENT programme, not a true dancing competition, so the eye is always going to be on entertainment, not true dance. If it was about education it wouldn't be on saturday night prime time BBC 1, and would get no where near 10 million viewers.

Its not there to teach the audience to dance, however it has opened the world of latin and ballroom dance to a lot of people, who have gone to have dance lessons.

Lets be honest 10 million viewers dont care if its true dance, they want to be entertained after a hard week at work.

Ps thats quite low bringing Jim'll Fix It in to it.
Hypnoali
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by isledance:
“Cant lift but ok to fly! Rules makes acomplete mockery of the hardworking ballroom dancers everywhere”

On the one hand it's a bit contradictory, but on the other it's an entertainment show, not a formal dance comp, so who cares if they bend the rules to make it more fun? Strict rules are necessary for formal comps but not for a bit of sat night tv, & this is more likely to encourage people to take up dancing.
isledance
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by WLB:
“The thing is SCD is a saturday night, celebrity, ENTERTAINMENT programme, not a true dancing competition, so the eye is always going to be on entertainment, not true dance. If it was about education it wouldn't be on saturday night prime time BBC 1, and would get no where near 10 million viewers.

Its not there to teach the audience to dance, however it has opened the world of latin and ballroom dance to a lot of people, who have gone to have dance lessons.

Lets be honest 10 million viewers dont care if its true dance, they want to be entertained after a hard week at work.

Ps thats quite low bringing Jim'll Fix It in to it.”

But please dont be so naive!
WLB
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by isledance:
“But please dont be so naive!”

But whats naive. I see it for what it is, an entertainment show, that gets the BBC large viewership, that just happens to be about dancing. The majority of the viewers dont really know all the technique, but as long as they like it, and it look goods to them, and keeps them entertained they will keep on watching it.

As long as it keeps getting the viewers the BBC wouldnt care if they all came on and stood still if it still got the viewers.

What i am saying is that it has opened the world of dance to alot of people who go to lessons now because of SCD, not saying that is what the bbc wanted, just that is something positive it has done.
friendlyguy2
03-11-2012
Why doesn't the BBC devote enough time to each live show to enable all of the judges to comment on all of the performances?
Force Ten
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by friendlyguy2:
“Why doesn't the BBC devote enough time to each live show to enable all of the judges to comment on all of the performances?”

Because Bruce rambles on far more than he should so they have to cut the judges comments to keep to the timing. It's a bit ridiculous really but then Bruce does rather consider it to be "his" show so it's difficult to get him to shut up. Especially since he refuses to wear an earpiece.
wazzyboy
03-11-2012
Kimberley's entrance, yes, entrance, to her dance was based on a scene in the Beyonce video. What is the problem?
Stockingfiller
03-11-2012
How old are the producers ? It would be interesting to know.My guess - absolutely no one, over 38. Target audience mainly children. If children beg to watch SCD many parents woud give in just for peace and quiet.
isledance
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by WLB:
“But whats naive. I see it for what it is, an entertainment show, that gets the BBC large viewership, that just happens to be about dancing. The majority of the viewers dont really know all the technique, but as long as they like it, and it look goods to them, and keeps them entertained they will keep on watching it.

As long as it keeps getting the viewers the BBC wouldnt care if they all came on and stood still if it still got the viewers.

What i am saying is that it has opened the world of dance to alot of people who go to lessons now because of SCD, not saying that is what the bbc wanted, just that is something positive it has done.”

i refer to naivity because it is the fact that we are all manipulated by these BBC suits that I find so offensive and the way we are treated as if we know nathiiiiing. In addition it has begun to turn people away from taking kessons because it has moved so far away from most peoples capabilities
isledance
03-11-2012
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“Kimberley's entrance, yes, entrance, to her dance was based on a scene in the Beyonce video. What is the problem?”

compromising Kimberley and sacrificing her obvious talent, she doesn`t need a widdecombe aid to get her on her feet.....how insulting to this beautiful talented girl
CravenHaven
04-11-2012
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“There is nothing wrong with Kimberley flying like Widdy, I predict a standing ovation just like Widdy got.”

You think they were clapping. I think they were trying to wave her away.
Cadiva
04-11-2012
Originally Posted by WLB:
“The thing is SCD is a saturday night, celebrity, ENTERTAINMENT programme, not a true dancing competition, so the eye is always going to be on entertainment, not true dance. If it was about education it wouldn't be on saturday night prime time BBC 1, and would get no where near 10 million viewers.

Its not there to teach the audience to dance, however it has opened the world of latin and ballroom dance to a lot of people, who have gone to have dance lessons.

Lets be honest 10 million viewers dont care if its true dance, they want to be entertained after a hard week at work.

Ps thats quite low bringing Jim'll Fix It in to it.”

Totally agree with everything you've said here.

Originally Posted by isledance:
“But please dont be so naive!”

There's nothing naive about it, it's always been publicised as an entertainment show which is based around dancing and not the other way round since it first began.
isledance
05-11-2012
wrong ! again it has only been treated this way since the BBC saw they had a Tiger by its Taleso to speak
Bonnie96
05-11-2012
Originally Posted by isledance:
“compromising Kimberley and sacrificing her obvious talent, she doesn`t need a widdecombe aid to get her on her feet.....how insulting to this beautiful talented girl”

Kimberley is well over the age of consent and quite capable of saying 'no' to anything she doesn't feel would put her in a good light - she has said on record that she was looking forward to it and that she loved doing it..
Originally Posted by isledance:
“wrong ! again it has only been treated this way since the BBC saw they had a Tiger by its Taleso to speak”

There is no right or wrong - only opinion.

If it's not an entertainment show, why have non professional dancers and complete beginners compete to see who can learn to dance and eliminate the ones who are not the viewers' favourites regardless of talent?

Why allow the GBP to vote at all when there is no dancing qualification necessary in order to do so?
Originally Posted by WLB:
“Ps thats quite low bringing Jim'll Fix It in to it.”

I agree - totally tasteless
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