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Old 03-11-2012, 21:46
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Clearly these acts know themselves and their strengths better than what the executive producers and expert mentors like to tell us all. All the acts suddenly become woeful when they get to live shows.

Ella, great audition. Solid through the whole process - live shows and they start dressing her like an old woman and all her song choices have been horrid.

James - Cannot command such a stage. Not right for this competition anyway. So moot point with him.

Jahmene - Song choices. Never good. Never right.

District 3 - Forced choreography. Way too High School Musical, a distance from their original audition where they sang Boys II Men and clearly value technical ability over xfactor camp faux entertainment.

Union J - Bleurgh. Tried to appear hip and different as Triple J. Now stand around in raincoats singing about lovely ladies. Even went to the length of adding in a Harry Styles lookalike.

Chris - lol

Kye - Really good audition, I don't know what's happened.

WHY IS EVERYBODY SHIT!!
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Old 13-11-2012, 22:56
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Clearly these acts know themselves and their strengths better than what the executive producers and expert mentors like to tell us all. All the acts suddenly become woeful when they get to live shows.

Ella, great audition. Solid through the whole process - live shows and they start dressing her like an old woman and all her song choices have been horrid.

James - Cannot command such a stage. Not right for this competition anyway. So moot point with him.

Jahmene - Song choices. Never good. Never right.

District 3 - Forced choreography. Way too High School Musical, a distance from their original audition where they sang Boys II Men and clearly value technical ability over xfactor camp faux entertainment.

Union J - Bleurgh. Tried to appear hip and different as Triple J. Now stand around in raincoats singing about lovely ladies. Even went to the length of adding in a Harry Styles lookalike.

Chris - lol

Kye - Really good audition, I don't know what's happened.

WHY IS EVERYBODY SHIT!!
agree, with BiB, jahmene is given the right song choices i just can't really stand the screaching.

and chris is doing great the best out of them
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Old 13-11-2012, 22:57
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you forgot Rylan. he improved on his audition lol
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:26
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It's the same year in and year out. I used to blame Yvie Burnett and the stylists but now I think it is all entirely down to the canteen staff.
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:45
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It's the same year in and year out. I used to blame Yvie Burnett and the stylists but now I think it is all entirely down to the canteen staff.
yeah must be poisoining some of the contestants

they start to shake on stage
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:51
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Just take a look at Christopher, do you seriously believe Christopher would choose the big coats to wear when he obviously looks like the sort of bloke who loves a sun tan and the beach. It just doesn't make any sense.

The producers get them to dress in a way which follows a certain point of view they want them to appear to be like on live TV.
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:54
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Ella, great audition. Solid through the whole process - live shows and they start dressing her like an old woman and all her song choices have been horrid.
I've always wondered why they dress Ella like an eight year old going to a birthday party?

Generally I agree, it seems instead of nurturing the flame of talent inside contestants they just seem to turn them into circus freaks for some reason. Very odd. Granted, I don't believe it's all bad, and maybe it's because of limitations of the show, the expectations of the audience maybe?

Honestly I find it hard to come up with a reasonable explanation to account for the failure of these *ahem* "experts".
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:58
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I've always wondered why they dress Ella like an eight year old going to a birthday party?

Generally I agree, it seems instead of nurturing the flame of talent inside contestants they just seem to turn them into circus freaks for some reason. Very odd. Granted, I don't believe it's all bad, and maybe it's because of limitations of the show, the expectations of the audience maybe?

Honestly I find it hard to come up with a reasonable explanation to account for the failure of these *ahem* "experts".
what do you want to see her in ,

tiny boob tube and hot pants , with knee lengh socks ??
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Old 14-11-2012, 01:05
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what do you want to see her in ,

tiny boob tube and hot pants , with knee lengh socks ??
Lol, don't recall suggesting she dress like a hooker.
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Old 14-11-2012, 01:08
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This seemed to happen to Janet last year.
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Old 14-11-2012, 01:10
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Lol, don't recall suggesting she dress like a hooker.
thinking of fame , guilty pleasures
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Old 14-11-2012, 01:11
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Lol, don't recall suggesting she dress like a hooker.
maybe there's few leotards left over from Kitty from last year
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Old 14-11-2012, 01:11
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I wouldn't blame the judging panel. They're not really mentors in my eyes, more like cheerleaders.
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Old 14-11-2012, 11:48
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I wouldn't blame the judging panel. They're not really mentors in my eyes, more like cheerleaders.
Yeah, they have minimal involvement in production/styling/voice coaching. I don't think they even really get to choose the songs, for a start they're given a list to choose from and who knows who gets the final decision?
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Old 14-11-2012, 11:51
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Clearly these acts know themselves and their strengths better than what the executive producers and expert mentors like to tell us all. All the acts suddenly become woeful when they get to live shows.

Ella, great audition. Solid through the whole process - live shows and they start dressing her like an old woman and all her song choices have been horrid.

James - Cannot command such a stage. Not right for this competition anyway. So moot point with him.

Jahmene - Song choices. Never good. Never right.

District 3 - Forced choreography. Way too High School Musical, a distance from their original audition where they sang Boys II Men and clearly value technical ability over xfactor camp faux entertainment.

Union J - Bleurgh. Tried to appear hip and different as Triple J. Now stand around in raincoats singing about lovely ladies. Even went to the length of adding in a Harry Styles lookalike.

Chris - lol

Kye - Really good audition, I don't know what's happened.

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I thought that too about Union J
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Old 14-11-2012, 13:28
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The thing is they are not all crap. They got through for a reason (apart from Rylan who was put through to cause gossip etc). The problem is a poor job from the mentors whose egos are too so big that they believe they are constantly correct in their decisions and choices.

Louis Walsh for example has no idea what he is doing. He proved that in previous seasons when selecting acts such as Wagner. I am actually surprised he can even dress himself but would he ever even consider accepting that he is incorrect? Not a chance.

Want to know how to take an artist with a good voice and turn them into something over commercialised and unrecognisable? Watch the X Factor judges
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Old 14-11-2012, 13:31
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The thing is they are not all crap. They got through for a reason (apart from Rylan who was put through to cause gossip etc). The problem is a poor job from the mentors whose egos are too so big that they believe they are constantly correct in their decisions and choices.

Louis Walsh for example has no idea what he is doing. He proved that in previous seasons when selecting acts such as Wagner. I am actually surprised he can even dress himself but would he ever even consider accepting that he is incorrect? Not a chance.

Want to know how to take an artist with a good voice and turn them into something over commercialised and unrecognisable? Watch the X Factor judges
This post is spot on really.

(except the Wagner bit. I like Wagner. )
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Old 14-11-2012, 14:12
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Just take a look at Christopher, do you seriously believe Christopher would choose the big coats to wear when he obviously looks like the sort of bloke who loves a sun tan and the beach. It just doesn't make any sense.

The producers get them to dress in a way which follows a certain point of view they want them to appear to be like on live TV.
He appeared in the most revolting heavy black overcoat with red shirt at the weekend....obviously done to try and cost him votes (not a mad conspiracy theory btw : I remember reading about Cowell personally ordering what outfits the acts wear)
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Old 14-11-2012, 14:16
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<snip> heavy black overcoat with red shirt at the weekend<snip>
I thought that was just a remembrance day thing with a nod to the poppy.
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Old 14-11-2012, 14:23
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I thought that was just a remembrance day thing with a nod to the poppy.
I doubt it somehow as the coat looked ridiculous, several sizes too big and very unstylish.
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Old 14-11-2012, 14:31
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Oh well. Just looked like a trench coat to me. He seems to like his coats.
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Old 14-11-2012, 15:07
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Yeah Ella was my fave by a mile in the audition stages. Yet I havent seen one show from her since the lives that has made me take much notice :S

Seems to be awful song choice after awful song choice, and her styling is ridiculous too...not that that matters much in the grand scheme of things like.
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Old 14-11-2012, 16:09
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This seemed to happen to Janet last year.
But unlike Janet, Ella isn't being criticised by a judge every week, and it's week 7 (nearly) and she still remains favorite to win, I think this time last year everyone had a feeling Little Mix would win
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Old 14-11-2012, 16:16
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But unlike Janet, Ella isn't being criticised by a judge every week, and it's week 7 (nearly) and she still remains favorite to win, I think this time last year everyone had a feeling Little Mix would win
Second favourite now behind Jahmene, after being odds-on favourite a couple of weeks ago with nobody else close. Then, from the judges' comments the powers-that-be aren't at all keen to lose her, unlike Janet at this stage of proceedings.
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Old 14-11-2012, 16:19
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Oh well. Just looked like a trench coat to me. He seems to like his coats.
Does he though? He actualy wore a hoodie at his audition and a short jacket at bootcamp.
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